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Hello I'm new here, and this is my very first post; as well as my very first grow. I've read a lot of the threads here, and I think I'm off to a pretty good start. I'm about two weeks into my grow; I have four plants right now in 3 gal pots. I'm using a 400 watt mh light for the vegetative stage, and will switch to a 400 hps for flowering. I have some pictures, and just wanted some feedback as to if everything looks o.k. or not.
I hate to be the one to break this to you....but that is not hydroponics--it's soil. And those are NOT little cabbages either...:D
Why the size difference between the big two and the litte two?
sorry the two biggest are about a week older than the other two. As far as the name; I saw it on a tv show and thought it was funny. Hopefully I'll be able to grow some hydro one day :D
as far as feedback....next time fill the pots all the way up w/soil....
and if you are usiing a soiless mixtures like peat and perlite, technically that can be considered hydro.....it depends who you talk to
Thanks for all the feedback guys i really appreciate it. I've been reading other peoples grow logs on here, and I've noticed that when a lot of people talk about watering they saying things like they're using 1/2 nuets and things like that. Iā??m using miracle grow all purpose plant food every time I water. I use it per the directions on the box. Is this a bad thing or a good thing? Also some of the leaves are starting to curl as pictured; not sure if I should worry or not??? :wtf:
you answered your question in your post my friend....
the curling is from the miracle grow. over nuting will result in curled tips, yellowing tips.
you should NOT be nuting AT ALL throughout the stage your in. NO nutes for the first 2 weeks...seedling have enough energy from their seed, and there is enough trace nutes in brand new soil (even if its soiless) to feed them for 2 weeks. After that time you can start to nute....you start out with 1/4 or less of the full dose....and you work your way up SLOWWWWWWLY. Keep close watch and learn how your plant reacts to nutes...every strain is different...some need more some less. if you start to see nute burn, back off....if not try adding a hair more at a time. I also would not recommend anything miracle grow. but you go that route your next grow....search the boards here and learn about the liquid nutes people use.
my suggestion to you is, back off the nutes, give your plants a moderate flush since youv'e probably over nuted them. and go about the nutes the way i described. also moderate the PH of your soil always...if it falls out of range you plants wont use the nutes
^^^^^^^ Thanks FireTheft; I'm going to water them with some distilled water to try to flush them a little. Again thanks for the help.
should be ok with plain tap water rested for a day. Check the PH...
Water the soil until at least 1/4 gallon has ran through the bottom.
Test the runoff while you are at it.
If you develop this as a habit you will always be aware of your PH and will be able to troubleshoot any problems that may arise later.
Ok I think most of the curling has gone away. My two oldest plants are about 9" @ 3 weeks, and the other two are about 4" @ 2 weeks. Most places I look says I should wait until they are about 12" before starting the flowering stage, but the problem I'm having now is the temperature and humidity. If you can see in the picture it's like 105 F, and 20%. I have a cup of water directly under the light, and a fan that blows out of the closet. Any suggestions how I can fix this???
nice happy girls there. do u know what strain. maybe you should have the fan blowing into the area instead of out of. that what i do. it blows cold air from my bedroom onto the plants.
Thanks....I'm using some bagseed so I'm not sure about the strain
105 could be putting a strain on your plants. Also the leaf curl looks like it could be over watering. You want your medium to dry out almost completely between waterings. You need to get more ventilation to your plants. Try a fan in the middle of the floor blowing straight up at your lights, and put another fan at the top of your closet blowing the hot air out. This will make a huge difference in temps and probably solve your problem. Otherwise you'll need to invest in a cool tube or sealed hood and some ducting, or use a smaller light. HID lighting requires ventilation or things will be much too hot, like in your situation.
nice plants cabbage !!!!!:thumbsup: smokedaddy:rastasmoke:
Thanks for the tips and complements guys...I already have a fan blowing the heat out, so I'm going to add one blowing directly on the light to see if i can get the temp down
Help! Part of my MH bulb broke when I was away, and the exposed part burnt my two largest plants a little. I switched to my HPS light, but not sure if the plants can recover??? :(
Hard to tell how they're doing under that light, but they look pretty good. Next time, or if you're transplanting, fill the pot up to the top with soil. When they're deep in the pot like that, the air in the pot will stagnate and is not good for them unless you got like a fan blowing straight down on them...
Your plants will be fine. They may look like they are not growing for a week or so, while they recover from the sun burn, but they should take off nicely. I must disagree with partcleguy in that since you have heat problems, you definately don't want the fan blowing down on the plants. This will move more hot air down to the plants instead of away from them. If you have a fan at the bottom as I suggested, and have it blowing up onto your light, this will not only cool the light, but it will move hot air up and away from the plants and also keep the air from stagnating. It can even be a fairly small fan, so the precious middle area where light is the most intense can still be mostly taken up with weed. You just need a small hole in the center of your grow for the air to flow up to the light, maybe 3" diameter.
I now have a light blowing directly on the light, and that has helped my temp out a great deal; so thanks Opie Yutts. I Just started the 12/12 flowering cycle today, so i will update with pics soon :D
I'm very glad that did the trick. A simple fix to a horrible situation. I'm sure you mean that you have a fan blowing on the light. Looking forward to seeing pictures of those nugs.
As far as when to induce flowering, I noticed that you picked a time that seemed to be when most people do it. There is not a certain time for you to begin flowering. It depends entirely on your space available and other things, but mostly space. Some people skip flowering completely, some flower for several months. You can veg indefinitely, and and up with huge plants before you flower, thus also ending up with a much bigger yield than if you vegged a couple weeks. Just remember that they can double or triple in size once flowering starts, so plan accordingly.
I'm about a week into the 12/12 cycle. I hope all continues to go well.:)
What a dork. Of course I meant veg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
bad news...two of my plants appear to be males. I separated them from the others; so hopefully they're not :(
My last two plants are female; so I'm really happy about that. :D I'm about three weeks into flowering, I think the plants look pretty good so far. They're aprox. 3' tall; but not really sure how much taller they are going to get.:question: I will continue to update with pics :thumbsup:
Looking real good so far. I'm guessing they could get up two feet taller than they are now. Thanks for the update.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydroponic Cabbage
I have a suggestion for you.
Fan leaves are important, but not as important as your precious bud sites. Always do your best to leave fan leaves on your plant. However if some are blocking the light from a nice bud, or bud to be, be sure to move, bend, gently break but leave intact, or completely remove the them, in descending order of preferance.
I also don't like to remove any fan leaves, or any other foliage that aren't likely to harbor any good buds. Instead, I've added supplemental lighting to the bottom of my plants, which seems to help buds areas that don't receive as much HID light fill out better.
I've made a very simple fixture that adds lower light, doesn't produce much heat, and can be placed directly between the pots...adding plenty of supplemental light to the lower branches. This may not be very economical if you're growing a large number of plants, but it works just fine for ten plants or less. Here's what I did:
I took a 150W desk lamp, added (2) 2-into-1 socket extenders (giving a total of 4 open sockets), and added four 32W (I think) CFL's. Just be sure that the overall wattage of the CFL's doesn't exceed the original output of the lamp, and you shouldn't have any problems with heat, shorting, etc. I also keep all of my growroom utilities plugged into a industrial sized surge-protector, just to be safe. But I've never had a problem with any of the utilities, or the surge protector, getting overloaded or hot.
Give that a shot before you start relentlessly cutting branches that aren't receiving enough light. Your plant will need the precious energy from those leaves when in full-bloom.
Great idea.
Thanks for the advice guys :thumbsup:...What I'm going to do is see how many leaves I rearrange first; until I can get some cfl's
ive found that moving leaves in gr8( just tuck them behind the clostest bud site), but im trying extra light too at the moment with 4ft fluros its seems to have worked ok so far 17 days into flower and the plants r more compact than anything others iv grown b4.
happy growing
I'm 4 weeks into flower now...I think plants look o.k.; they're about 4' tall. I'll update with pics a little latter :)
soon i hope :rastasmoke:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hydroponic Cabbage
First Post!!! Turned out I didn't validate my account correctly 2 months ago...I have been "waiting" patiently for approval from mod!! New account today, activated properly...
Now, this is my first grow in 13 years. Got some clones from a friend of a friend as they were moving and couldn't take with, needless to say, they were deficient in EVERY aspect. So with some research on CannCom I have found pretty much everything I need.
Here are a few pics of "the Plant that Lived" (Harry Potter reference!)
Let me know if I need to anything, all comments appreciated. And if I could get a reply from stinkyattic, I may just react like a New Kids on the Block bloke in the 80's!!
PS - I also added a pic of 4 clones of my flowering Mama (these have now been flowering for a few days)
Beautiful garder bro!
:smokin:
Ah crap, here I thought I was going to have the honor of being the first to welcome you, then wouldn't you know it, SB beat me to it. Anyway, welcome to the forums. Glad to have you Butchie.
I'm not sure why you didn't start your own thread, unless you need a certain number of posts first, but those are some nice looking plants. I see you like to sleep with them as well. Good for you. They like that, hot boxing all your CO2. My only suggestion is that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, except you could always add more light to fatten up those nugs a little more. And I don't know what color your bulbs are, but you probably already know from 13 years ago that you want reddish wavelength (2200K) for budding and bluish (5700K) for vegging.
Is that the nose of a Chesapeake Bay Retriever in one of the photos?
Again, welcome.
Hey Opie,
thanks for you comments! The nose belongs to a Weimeraner, even more of a spaz than the books will lead you to believe, GREAT practice for kids!!
Question on nutes.....
I starved my main plant and 4 clones about 4 or 5 days, as I was waiting on my nutes. Fed them Dyna-Gro Liquid Bloom 3-12-6, and they took 2 gallons with a little run-out, (suggestion, plastic tops to cd-r spindles are great to have your plants sit on as you water/feed-allows extra to leech out). I havent ever tested Ph, so I was wondering what schedule of feeding should be....2 feedings every 2 or 3 days and then plain water? I know more isn't better, but they have been starved for so long! BTW, during veg i was using Schultz 20-20-20 and fed once a week. RAMBLING.... Before I got my nutes I was giving them Molasses and Guano-Gro (pics attatched) with every water, if i'm not making any sense stop me!!
I couldn't start my own thread so please come back, dont know how many posts are required
I cant imagine what these would be looking like had I used an HPS for flowering!! 30 days in and Im guessing I will need 3-4 more weeks
Over and Out/10-4
Those are looking nice and healthy. When you add nutrients to your watering schedules there are a few ways you can do it. Your nutes probably have directions for recirculating systems. For my dirt plants, I do half that amount about every other watering, or exactly that amount every 4th watering. Seems to work out pretty well. Of course it is best if you under do it whenever trying something new. They won't die and they won't fry that way. You can always add a little more next time.
And yes, I never throw away those plastic CD tops. Another thing I use them for is humidity domes for individual youngsters. I usually buy the 50 or 100 pack, so the domes are 6" tall or something.
I hope that's not green light I see in the 3rd picture in the first set. Probably not.
I also hope Cabbage doesn't mind you borrowing his/her thread a little. Probably not.
Sorry I was away...didn't have time to update pics, but welcome Butchie; your plants look really great...and finially I have some new pics :D
No not at all :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
I'm now into week 5 of flowering...The plant on the right has a significant height difference than the plant on the left, but the plant on the left seems to have more bud growth. (even though they're the same age) Also some to the pistils (but not a lot) are stating to turn brown...not too sure if this is normal to be only 5 weeks in :confused: