Why not fight back?

Ok, lately as we have all been aware of, there have been numerous raids on medical-marijuana dispensiaries. Everytime it seems like the same thing happens. DEA and/or state and local cops bust in a clinic with guns blazing and take everything in sight pretty much. Personally I think this is a State's rights issue and I don't see why these states that have passed med pot laws aren't fighting back. IMO if anything, the state and local cops should be standing next to these collectives guarding them against the DEA!! These guys are employed by the state of [insert MMJ state here], they should respond to it not washington.

And since that isn't happening, I sometimes wish that just one of these MMJ dispensiary owners would get some friends and some guns and hold their own. This is LIFE-SAVING medicine we're talking about here for a lot of people. I don't want to sound like an advocate of violence because im not, I just wish somebody would physically stand up to the federal government for interfering so much. If nobody fights back, there going to keep raiding these clinics, and these people need their medicine. Right?

A lot of the blame goes to local police agencies cooperating with the feds.They shouldn't be helping the feds they should be helping the residents of there community who have a legal right to grow. But face reality,cops don't give a shit about peoples personal rights or even the laws of there jurisdiction. There are only 2 ways to fight these corrupt people.
1: Keep passing intiatives to deregulate pot
2:Register for jury duty. When one of these bullshit cases come to trial get on the jury and quietly vote your conscience.Not Guilty.

Police are narrow minded ignorant puppets for higher authority. I'm sure local police jump at the opportunity to help the Feds do something that state law prohibits them from doing (raiding clubs).

As far as club owners and employees having firearms to respond to these raids, I'm sure that pressure on dispensaries would increase tenfold if any of the raids became violent. The media would use that as an opportunity to say "See? They are criminals." The clubs would go down the drain in a quick second.

Most of the clubs that get shut down are either back in business shortly, or are replaced quickly by another. This is what we need to continue to do. Firm civil disobedience is the easiest way to say "We aren't criminals. And we aren't stopping."

:rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by smokerofweed420

Ok, lately as we have all been aware of, there have been numerous raids on medical-marijuana dispensiaries. Everytime it seems like the same thing happens. DEA and/or state and local cops bust in a clinic with guns blazing and take everything in sight pretty much. Personally I think this is a State's rights issue and I don't see why these states that have passed med pot laws aren't fighting back. IMO if anything, the state and local cops should be standing next to these collectives guarding them against the DEA!! These guys are employed by the state of [insert MMJ state here], they should respond to it not washington.

And since that isn't happening, I sometimes wish that just one of these MMJ dispensiary owners would get some friends and some guns and hold their own. This is LIFE-SAVING medicine we're talking about here for a lot of people. I don't want to sound like an advocate of violence because im not, I just wish somebody would physically stand up to the federal government for interfering so much. If nobody fights back, there going to keep raiding these clinics, and these people need their medicine. Right?

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actually that's a bigger claim by the dea that they're 'drug dealers' if they have a weapon in the store to protect them...for some reason protecting your investment isn't good if you're abiding by state law...

too much federal funding, brother...they can't fight the feds..this is exactly what our forefathers were seeking to avoid in limiting the federal government's power to certain things listed in the constitution, everything else is supposed to be left up to the states...HA! yeah, we see how that worked out...sorry mr. jefferson..

vote ron paul, we'll see what he does for all of us..:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by smokerofweed420

And since that isn't happening, I sometimes wish that just one of these MMJ dispensiary owners would get some friends and some guns and hold their own.

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This would set the marijuana reform movement back years if people started doing this, if not killing the movement all together. Peace and intelligence can do a lot more with a far greater impact than violence. Violence is the idiots way of voicing their disagreements, smart people fight back with words of wisdom.

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Originally Posted by Nailhead

This would set the marijuana reform movement back years if people started doing this, if not killing the movement all together. Peace and intelligence can do a lot more with a far greater impact than violence. Violence is the idiots way of voicing their disagreements, smart people fight back with words of wisdom.

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An actual voice of reason. For all you that think that state laws/rights override the feds.......look at slavery once.

The more states that vote in medical marijuana will force the fed to look at the issue based on the "majority" of states that have ratified it and the votes that backed the issue.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

When people's liberties are stripped of them for causing no harm to another person, then i believe it justified to stand up, speak loud and defend the cause. I advocate peaceful, non violent resistance and demonstration. I propose discussion and debate, for without, the issue remains dormant.

bullsugar!
pot is harmeless !
harmless!
The gov dont like selling it and some stupid American
making extra money! 'The kids' ,'smoke it', you can only get 'so high' on weed, the kids turn to stronger drugs and thAT aint good!

legalize pot! It might keep the kids home more!


Im ready to chain my little ass to the court ass
you betcha!:jointsmile:
my whole family :hippy::rasta::rastasmoke::smokin::pimp::stoned:sm okes dope and thats all we do
as far as inhibitors

Ive read in quotes
US pot smokers' have'nt fought, 'long and hard for legalization"

whats it gonna take? money? table bargaining? There is a marijuana 'tax stamp' available for anyone that does smoke available for purchase, through each State

I def feel more pot smokers should 'COME OUT, youd b surprized who smokes dope,

:jointsmile:

legalize it~~

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Originally Posted by silkyblue

whats it gonna take? money? table bargaining? There is a marijuana 'tax stamp' available for anyone that does smoke available for purchase, through each State

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Marijuana Tax Stamp Laws And Penalties

In twenty US states, those who possess cannabis or other illegal drugs are legally required to purchase and affix state-issued stamps onto his or her contraband. The total cost of the tax is generally determined by the quantity of contraband possessed. Unlike typical criminal statutes prohibiting the possession and sale of controlled substances, drug tax stamp laws primarily assess financial penalties on the defendant for noncompliance. On occasion, criminal sanctions may also be imposed.

Although nearly half of all US states have marijuana tax stamp laws on the books, few citizens observe them. Most individuals are unaware that such laws exist in their state; others fear that complying with it will incriminate their behavior. Because of this widespread noncompliance, drug tax stamps â?? unlike so-called â??sin taxesâ?� on alcohol or tobacco â?? do not collect state tax revenue at the customerâ??s â??point of purchase.â?� Rather, the legislative intent of drug tax laws is to impose an additional penalty â?? tax evasion â?? upon drug offenders after they are arrested and criminally charged with a drug violation.

In some states such as Georgia, failure to comply with the state tax law may result in a nominal misdemeanor penalty. However, in other states such as Minnesota, failure to comply with the stateâ??s drug tax law may result in a defendant facing an additional fine of up to $14,000 and seven years in jail.

See State Tax Stamp Data for the current state penalties for violating marijuana tax laws and additional information regarding a particular state's law.
Marijuana Tax Stamp Laws And Penalties - NORML

The Tax Stamp is now nothing more than another means for the State Government to impose additional penalties on manufacturing/distribution charges.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

I'll say what I've said before,

I think medical marijuana is bogus. Even If it really worked in the long run it would just be used as an excuse to let a small minority use it while everyone else is prosecuted for using it for also valid reasons. I think medical marijuana should be boycotted, it's not like medical marijuana dispensaries and legal users don't get raided anyways.What's the point?

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Originally Posted by natureisawesome

I'll say what I've said before,

I think medical marijuana is bogus. Even If it really worked in the long run it would just be used as an excuse to let a small minority use it while everyone else is prosecuted for using it for also valid reasons. I think medical marijuana should be boycotted, it's not like medical marijuana dispensaries and legal users don't get raided anyways.What's the point?

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The point is that marijuana is a very real medicine for a lot of people. Just because our corrupt government raids LEGAL medical dispensaries does not make it alright. The same can be said for ANY medical drug. Some people really need Vicodin, yet there are a LOT more that don't and still have prescriptions. Also, a lot of people use it that don't have a prescription for recreational purposes. That does not disqualify it as a valid medicine.

And plus, even if the whole medical marijuana movement is just a ploy to allow more people to legally smoke weed, why not? Are you saying that you condone the criminalization of a harmless plant that makes people hungry and content at worst? The illegalization of marijuana was born from a web of corruption, greed, and propaganda and it should not remain that way.

I am guessing that your resentment comes from living in a state where medical marijuana is not available, or from the fact that you are not eligible. You should reevaluate your statements and think about it from the larger perspective.

I think the point you should be looking for is not "What is the point of medical marijuana (which, by the way, is host to a HUGE point)" and you should ask "What is the point of the criminalization of marijuana?"

MW:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by natureisawesome

I'll say what I've said before,

I think medical marijuana is bogus. Even If it really worked in the long run it would just be used as an excuse to let a small minority use it while everyone else is prosecuted for using it for also valid reasons. I think medical marijuana should be boycotted, it's not like medical marijuana dispensaries and legal users don't get raided anyways.What's the point?

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Myself using marijuana for pain relief, OCD and ADD, that above paragraph offends me. I know several other people who are also much better off using marijuana. I have my entire life ahead of me, I'm only 18 years old. I've tried using opiates and it totally wrecks me and makes me a deadhead, not to mention the long term damage on your organs it's capable of doing. Marijuana makes every day of mine as if it were a normal day. For hundreds of thousands others, it does the same. You are apparently very uneducated when it comes to medical marijuana and it's medical benefit, pal. :wtf:

This is a good place to start: Medical Use - NORML

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Originally Posted by natureisawesome

I'll say what I've said before,

I think medical marijuana is bogus. Even If it really worked in the long run it would just be used as an excuse to let a small minority use it while everyone else is prosecuted for using it for also valid reasons. I think medical marijuana should be boycotted, it's not like medical marijuana dispensaries and legal users don't get raided anyways.What's the point?

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If you have any evidence that medical marijuana is "bogus", please present it for us all to read. However, if the only reasoning for your ridiculous claim is that non-medical users might abuse the laws to to acquire this drug, then I hope you realize there are far more dangerous drugs that are also being legally prescribed to people that don't really need it. Do you also think those drugs should be made illegal also simply on the fact that some people are getting it that don't need it medically? Maybe we should take all medications off the market that are being abused, who cares about the people it helps, we need to save the stupid from themselves and ban these drugs! :rolleyes:

Your argument is flawed and I'm sure you didn't spend a lot of time thinking before posting that, but it's been fun shooting your post down :stoned:

Who says that there isnt a fight back?
In california there is alot of fight back, by doctors, normal people, medical paitients, and even some policemen.
There are so many demonstrations near where i live. There are always newspaper stories about medical and how the police do not mind sometimes.
In santa cruz they passed the initiative which makes pot use by adults a very much less important crime. There are changes, are you even following the constant activism fight? i think not.

LOL at that person which claims marijuana has no medical value. I know your just pissed you cant have it legally, and that many medical users lie about their condition. I think thats wrong also for the record.