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Veteran Removes Illegal Mexican Flag, May Be Charged
Reno resident cuts down Mexican flag flying above U.S. flag after outcry
Steve Watson
Infowars.net
Wednesday, Oct 3, 2007
A Veteran from Reno, Nev. has hit headlines after he took matters into his own hands yesterday and tore down a Mexican flag that was being illegally flown above a U.S. flag at a local business.
[align=left][align=left][align=left] Local news station krnv News 4 had received calls yesterday afternoon from angry residents complaining about the Mexican flag. When the station sent a reporter to investigate the Veteran took the opportunity to make a statement in front of the cameras.
The man commented "I'm Jim Brossert and I took this flag down in honor of my country with a knife from the United States army. I'm a veteran, I am not going to see this done to my country. if they want to fight us, then they need to be men, and they need to come and fight us, but I want somebody to fight me for this flag. They're not going to get it back."
The hispanic store owner who witnessed the incident would not make comment on camera but told krnv over the phone that he was flying the flag as a mark of solidarity to the hispanic community. Pro-immigration protests have been ongoing in the area all weekend after raids were conducted by authorities in the area last week.
The store owner said he is an American citizen and did not know what he was doing was against the law. However, according to federal law it is illegal to fly any flag above the U.S. flag, and if flying more than one they must be on separate poles and be of an equal size. [/align]
The Reno police department has told krnv that Brossert will faces charges for theft if the store owner files a police report of what happened.
Similar incidents have previously been reported in Maywood, CA., Tucson, Arizona, and Jupiter, Florida.
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damn.. that was alittle extreme.. the dude didnt even know he was wrong.. i think that vet blew things way out of proportion he could have simply explained to the man that wat he was doing is illigal and to change it.
-Wil
We are being invaded by Mexico. If you don't think it's an invasion, try and stop it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cocoflava
Mexico has an official government policy to "reclaim" much of the US Southwest. Mexico is our enemy and deserves to be treated as such.
PC :pimp:
Damn.... Imma call it before it comes. This thread's gonna get ugly.
But what's up with taking flags from businesses? And just because it was above an American one? Christ... Some people would like to think they're so patriotic that they piss red white and blue.
I'm not that patriotic, but I see this as a justified operation. No Mexican flags should be flown except at the mexican embasies. If you want to fly mexican flags, go back to mexico, in fact you can go to the border, step over and fly away, that way the border patrol would be sure to see your illegal asses.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by medicinal
Out of respect the top flag is that of the country your in. I'm sure they'd love to see the U.S. flag on top down Mexico way.
Either way, this dude is going to get screwed for his actions.:mad:
Have a good one!:s4:
About time we get that wall built.
That and a big catapult for those that didn't quite make it back across the border in time.:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Jack Sparrow
Have a good one!:s4:
hahaha im mexican and i agree with yall.. that flag bein on top of the american flag was his little passive agressive way to say fuck you america, and he got called on it.. he knew full well what he was doin.. if that would have happened in mexico, not only would it have been cut down, but probably burned too..
This is America not mexico or cuba or puerto rico if they wanna fly their flags do it in your own country other than that they should be charged with treason for disrespecting our forefathers and the sacrifices they have made for Americans not for illegals and nationals of other countries to come here and use our rights of freedom of speech for their own gains.Mexico is our enemy:mad:
Wow, I'm trippin. I got one guy talkin about flags and our forefathers (all of whom I respect), but I look at his avatar and I see something that looks like an American flag, but a little different. :)
Nah, but I just didn't think it would be that big of a deal. I wouldn't even think about it if I passed it on the street. But it's all good.
Yeah boy,:wtf: its Hawaii state flag in distress from all the fucking foreigner moving to Hawaii
that is terrible! What american citizen would fly another flag over the american one on american soil? I have no problem with other flags beneath it, for instance if you are from germany or something and want to represent where you came from. nothing wrong with being proud of your origins but it's not cool to do what the store owner did. I'll probably take flak for this, but if he is an american citizen he should be able to do whatever he wants with it though, no matter how i feel about it.
It is a piece of cloth...he should of talked to the store owner...he disrespected them by doing what he did ..he should of at least handed their flag to them and not left it on the ground.
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We are being invaded by Mexico. If you don't think it's an invasion, try and stop it!
Mexico has an official government policy to "reclaim" much of the US Southwest. Mexico is our enemy and deserves to be treated as such.
Ok,I will really try my best not to be a shit disturber and Im really not looking to take anyone here on this issue.All I would like folks to do is to think beyond what is spoon fed to us by the corp.media and govt.sources.I am sure the flood of people coming up north has nothing to do with:Quote:
About time we get that wall built.
20 year wait lists for legal immigration status (Im not really exaggerating,there are folks who filed in the 80s who still havent heard back from the govt.)
Neo-liberal policies which have destroyed the infrastructures and environments of the countries of Central America and of Mexico (think Nafta,cafta,)
Corporations in thier never ending pursuit of profits extracting every bit of resource possible from these countries and meddling in the affairs of said countries (think Chiquita Banana and their support of the landinoâ??s and a group officially labeled a terrorist org. by the U.S. govt./also think about the govt.war on drugs which is forcing substance farmers out by poisoning their fields,who takes over,the large landio's and corp.supported plantations)
Again I sincerely am not looking to take anyone on or tell them they are wrong to think the way that they do,its just there often multiple layers to a problem and the answers are never as easy as the sound bite solutions we hear on talk radio.I really dont think that poor exploited people are our enemies,in most cases they are only doing what you or I would do,and that is to support and take care of their families the best that they can.I think that the govt.would like us to think that the nebulous "they" are the enemy,but when we put a human face on the problem they are really no different than you or I.Plus it serves the interests of the govt if poor and the so called "middle class" are divided and fight amongst themselves.
I hope I didnt offend anyone,just hoping to get people to think about issues from another angle.Take care and be well everyone.
Criminal: A person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation.
Ah hell the mexicans used to own the SW anyway before we stole it from them. Let them have it back. Or trade them for Mexico.Its a better enviorment to grow weed anyway and has really nice beaches.Plus I like them little latina's with a little junk in the trunk.
The word USED TO, not now, not never....This is the US of A not Mexico, if you(not you) want to hang another nations flag go to that nation and hang it there....Really if i was in mexico and hunged a USA flag above the mexican flag im sure i would have been thrown in prison. there is a law, and that shop owner is a citizen of the USA and should know, and i believe he did it intentionally
These people talk about taking over the USA all the time and if we dont stop it they will takeover cali,:D They will never retake Texas, i guess we forgot a few years ago when the La Raza Klan held protest in the streets while burning the flag, hanging it upside down with mexican flag on top, what a freakin disgrace......
Japan owns Waikiki. That is a problem. A big fucking problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by grrnman
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OH! by the way im hispanic:thumbsup:
If he is a naturalized American citizen, then he has sworn to uphold the U.S. Constitution. And he was educated on the flag. I am sure if an American moved down to Mexico and did that, something bad would probably happen to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cocoflava
I just cannot believe the shit they all illegals get away with like protest our rules of this country to tell America we're not crimnals we just wanna make a living here and we should just let them and pretend that their presence here doesn't affect us cause their doing jobs Americans won't do and they obey the laws except the legalization one of citizenship.Most pay no taxes their kids are like animals they take on their parents shortcoming and blame the country that provided them with the things their home country won't do.All the things that were put in place for Americans are being depleted by those who choose not to do the right thing and that is to GO HOME and build up your own countries so life will be better for all of you instead of the ones who luckily snuck into America.T hey the illegals just want our freedoms our rights and security but don't wanna go through the process of becoming citizens if you have to wait for your citizenship then you should go home and not make babies to justify you being here cause frankly I don't give a FUCK you are Americans ENEMY and the real citizens of this GREAT Country should make sure we are rid of this spreading virus and stand up to our ways of life being sacrificed.
It never ceases to amaze me the people that rant and rave about what someone says in this country.lol
Anybody read the 1st ammendment? Who cares what these illegals say or do.They are entitled to there beliefs as we are entitled to ours.
Oh dont get the wrong idea, i agree that Mexicans are taking over.. but i dont think there is anything wrong with showing love for your country, as long as its done Legaly.. my flag pole has the american flag, and the Angolan flag below it..Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmaCan
but i donno.. maybe its because im all the way in jersey.. and the ratio of mexicans from the southwest to jersey is like 50 to 1 LoL..
-Wil
Flying another country's flag above the U.S. flag on U.S. soil has nothing to do with freedom of speech. It says you are proclaiming that land belongs to the foreign power.Quote:
Originally Posted by killerweed420
Also, illegal immigrants do not have the same rights that Americans do.
Nonetheless the owner of the business is an American, but he does not have a right to fly a foreign flag over the U.S. flag on U.S. soil. Since his allegiance obviously lies with Mexico, his citizenship should be revoked and he should be deported, so he can go back to the country that he holds so dear.
You are very wrong about this. Spain once controlled much of the U.S. Southwest. When Mexico won its independence from Spain, it laid claim to all Spanish territory, including the Southwest. Mexico never had any kind of operational control of the Southwest and therre were, in fact, many more Europeans and Indians in the area than there were Mexicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by killerweed420
In any event, Mexico sold all claims to the Southwest, as ratified in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.
PC :pimp:
Howdy angry nomad,Quote:
Originally Posted by angry nomad
Well said :thumbsup:
It continues to amaze me,that anyone thinks that illegal immigrants somehow git all the rights that an American citizen has,by simply crossing the border.
If one were to try and cross into Mexico illegally,especially from the border with Guatemala,they'd be shot--no questions asked,because it's so obvious--that they are invading !
Have a good one ! :jointsmile:
Really what difference does it make whether the US flag is on top or below? If they really didn't like the US they should have hung it upside down. Why didn't the guy just go in and ask if the owner realized there was a law against flying the US flag below. Why? Because he's a phsycotic asshole that didn't have the mental faculties to just try and be decent human being and go talk to them.
wow, you guys are everywhere.
you can say he over reacted, or not. fact of the matter, was a crime was commited... a very symbolic, and historic one. I think you have the right to fly any flag you see fit... but above the american flag is blasphemy or an act of war. I don't get caught up in race wars, but i can say, he knew he was doing somthing contreversial in the first place... most likely there is a pre-exsisting situation in the area.
We have freedom of expression, but if it is the consensus of the majority to not allow the flag flown in disrespect, than that has taken importance.
And yes, we are being invaded, and used by illegal mexican immigrants... i think it is definately time to step things up, and call upon mexico to police it's criminals, or the us public should withdraw tourism, and investments. We the people can solve our own issues
I like the fact that we got disgruntled vets. walking around with knives, besides the fact that this guy probly was diing to use it for more than cutting down a flag. Did he say anything to the people before walking up like that. . .Fight fight fight alway starting shit. Who the hell cares how you see the flags, uhhhh did you forget where you are? This guy was just stupid, he didn't really think about putting anyone down, I think it was more about galvinization. He didn't know Mexican's are the only ones not alowed to talk shit about the U.S. . .
You might be a.......if you want to go to war over a the way something is displayed. No wonder the Confederate flag is still in court rooms. . . .
Before you get to excited about that wall you might ask the chinese how well theirs kept the mongols out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
I really hate the undertoned racism, the word "Mexican" has become a derogitory term. People use "illegal" like that law was around when your ancesters were being dumped in. . .you can thank the treasury dept. for this one, they got a ywo for one deal on Mexicans and Herb. I bet you can ask most hispanics (Mex,P.R.,gua, ect.) Americans, i don't want to put a race on blast, throw "meexican" at us like it's the "N' word. African Americans might not see it at that level, but I got history books going kinda far back, along with all the other people that came to this country to be used and slandered. The American dream has changed. . .for the people who already got what they want out of it. Now their are new prioritys for gain.
Do you know the names of the "Mexican's" that signed over that land. . .I think my facts are different. land going at those kind of dirty dollars, Mel Gibson got that kind of money on the floor of his car. . .but I gues you can pay whatever you want as long as you got a gun to their head.Quote:
Originally Posted by PharmaCan
I wouldn't even hold up an American flag if I was in another country, simply out of respect. And if I was moving to that country, why would I be proud of a country I left? If that country was so great I never would have moved in the first place.
I mean is the mexican flag the only thing mexicans have to show in pride for their heritage?
Anyway, as for mexicans taking over, I'm okay with it, as long as they keep bringing their hot mexican latinas keep on coming over Jose! :D
The Mexicans did own the land now known as California.West Texas, New Mexico and and parts of Arizona. Spain stole it from them first then they won it back and then the Americans stole it from them again. Thats why I don't blame the Mexicans trying to come here and better them selves. And yeah they are trying to steal a little bit back but who cares? They are some of the hardest working people I've ever known and I enjoy working with them.
While an old western form of rascism is making it's way into mainstream society, we must not overlook something...
the golden rule... the true ten commandments wrapped into one statement... do unto others as you would have them do unto you...
until the law about flag supremecy is retracted, it is illegal to do otherwise...
second, insulting the flag, is viewed by men, who lived most of their life in servitude to that flag, AND YOU AND ME... as a personal attack... i'm sorry but that is human nature...
do i think that technically in a truely free society it shouldn't matter about what flag is flown above what... hell yea
BUT, if we had an inummerable amount of illegal invading people going into mexico, shit would of hit the fan a long time ago.
We cannot stand by while our society is watered down, by criminals... if they weren't criminals then they would immediately asked for amnesty, and had good reason to do so... the mexican government allows it to happen, under the guise of being unable to stop it (bs)
I love mexico, i love hispanics, pero me encanta Los Estados Unidos, mucho mas...
fact of the matter is, we now are being forced to give them rights we fought for, and they stole... we are forced to give them health care and education, we don't even get, and they stole...
i'm sorry, but you are allowing yourself to think away from the founding documents of this country (which is what makes us who we are) when you fight otherwise