Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents

Why Liberals Make Atrocious Parents

By Kevin McCullough
Sunday, September 30, 2007

The leading liberals in America gave frightening clear evidence this week, that not only do they lack the wisdom to run the nation, but that by their own words they do not even understand the priorities of good parenting. The position of "parent" is God granted, yet they shirk with great disdain the desire to give their children the basic wisdom of life. In doing so they demonstrate clearly that they are contributing to one of our nation's greatest deficits - the discernment and critical thinking skills of the next generation.

In the New Hampshire Democratic debate this week, the veil was pulled back on more than just the Democratic party's great lie about their desire to bring the troops home in the global war on terror (none would even commit to doing it before the end of their first term) but perhaps more importantly their twisted views on family, sex, and parental responsibility were also highlighted.

Tim Russert asked the three front-runners for the Democratic nomination as to their comfort level of teaching a homosexual story of two boys consummating their lust for each other to children in the second grade. They all agreed they would support the teaching of such behavior, though they attempted to hem, haw, and confuse the issue mumbling about parents' involvement.

John Edwards: "Yes absolutely..." (He would support the teaching of the story to second graders.) "I want my children to understand everything about the difficulties that gay and lesbian couples are faced with every day, the discrimination that theyâ??re faced with every single day of their lives."

Hillary Clinton: "Obviously, it is better to try to â?¦ help your children understand the many differences that are in the world. â?¦ And that goes far beyond sexual orientation. So I think that this issue of gays and lesbians and their rights will remain an important one in our country."

Barack Obama: "The fact is, my 9-year-old and my 6-year-old I think are already aware that there are same-sex couples... One of the things I want to communicate to my children is not to be afraid of people who are different. â?¦. One of the things I think the next president has to do is stop fanning peopleâ??s fears. If we spend all our time feeding the American people fear and conflict and division, then they become fearful and conflicted and divided."

Obama in fact confirmed that his wife had already taken the opportunity to sit his six and nine year old daughters down to discuss same-sex behavior and why some radical same-sex couples believe society should redefine the God-sanctioned institution of marriage because of it.

But it was John Edwards that summarized for liberals everywhere what they actually believe: "I donâ??t want to make that decision on behalf of my children. I want my children to be able to make that decision on behalf of themselves, and I want them to be exposed to all the information... even in second grade to be exposed to all those possibilities, because I donâ??t want to impose my view. Nobody made me God."

Edwards gave voice to words that liberals have thought and practiced for years.

Liberals, by the strictest understanding of the definition of the word, believe in lack of restraint, defying of limits, and excess - whether it's taxes, education, or sexual practice. Truth can never be known and all focus must be given to the unknowable.

In and of itself the term "liberal" isn't necessarily a bad one. For instance in the scriptures we are instructed to be liberal with generosity for those in need, forgiveness for those who repent, and mercy for those who suffer. But Clinton, Obama, and Edwards have taken it far beyond that.

Liberals today mean it as an excuse to wipe away other important elements of behavior like self-control, purity, moderation, and even delayed gratification. It's my opinion that the lost virtue of restraint has in fact become one of our nation's most important deficits - so much so that I devoted an entire chapter to the idea in MuscleHead Revolution.

But with these ideas liberals have even excused themselves of performing the task God gave them uniquely. It IS a parent's job to teach a child how to think, the framework of what to believe, and to equip them to critique their own actions and the actions of others for even some very basic reasons - like self preservation.

Conservative parents teach disciplined behavior so that in their children's private world they do not bring harm to themselves, and in public they do not bring harassment, discomfort or harm to others. The benefit of learning to be quiet at some times and places, helps a child to enjoy the exuberance of playtime later. Teaching a child not to touch everything they see, gives them self-control and prevents them from breaking things they should not have grabbed in the first place. Saying "no" when they reach for a hot pan on the stove, may seem rather harsh, scolding, and even angry - but in the end it has saved them from immense pain!

If you want to see this at work in the real world - take ten minutes to go randomly interview any girl who works in women's retail today. The hellions that liberal moms bring into their store - and immediately lose track of the moment they begin trying things on are significantly different than the children who have been taught to stand quietly and wait until they are home to run, wrestle, hide, seek, laugh, and play.

John Edwards, though he represents the thinking of liberal mentality across the board, could not be more mistaken.

True nobody made him 'God' (and we all breathe easier for that.) But God did very much make him, and more importantly He made him a representative to his children, to teach, to instruct, to guide, and to help grow his children into fully functional and thoughtful adults who will then be able to do the same for their children in the days to come.

To not exercise the responsibility of teaching his children, or even more dangerously in Barack Obama's case of willfully teaching his children behavior and immoral justification, liberals are at best proving that they do not have the critical discernment needed to recognize the difference between right and wrong. At worst they are demonstrating negligent or intentional contempt for their children and society. And if they are that confused about something so basic as instructing their children, how will THEY be equipped when weighing the balance of good and evil in the world and nation they hope to lead?

In exposing their thinking on something so simple to us they confirmed that I would never trust them to baby-sit my own child, therefore how on earth can they be given oversight of the free world?

Not on my watch!

Future threads by Torog will include:

- Why liberals cause cancer.
- Why liberals hate Jesus Christ.
- Why liberals cause global warming.
- Why liberals are responsible for the African aids epidemic.
- Why liberals will make gay orgies mandatory.
- Why liberals keep aliens from visiting Earth.

and who could forget...
- Why liberals want all our senators replaced with muslim extremists.



Torog, seriously, your constant one-sided attacks on the left are just getting rediculous. How you can't see the easily-as-large amount of moral courruption on the right is beyond me.

this sounds racist.

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Originally Posted by Gandalf_The_Grey

Torog, seriously, your constant one-sided attacks on the left are just getting rediculous. How you can't see the easily-as-large amount of moral courruption on the right is beyond me.

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Just an observation my friend.....you always point this out about the conservatives on the forum but not the liberals.......just trying to keep it "fair and balanced".:D

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Just an observation my friend.....you always point this out about the conservatives on the forum but not the liberals.......just trying to keep it "fair and balanced".:D

Have a good one!:s4:

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A keen and valid observation P4B. But you may notice that in the last several months there haven't been any threads made to attack conservatives in general, only the conservative administration in respect to their specific actions.
I've shown just as much opposition to the Bush-haters (even though I'm against him myself) who make outrageous claims regarding suppesedly illegal/unconstitutional actions, that are in fact perfectly legal.

It makes sense to view both sides, but this seriously looks like propaganda to me. It's a bunch of generalizations, trying to place every single liberal in this category that this guy lays out. Of course, he never explains what makes them so bad at being parents. And of course, it's all his opinion.

Granted mfgr and likewise, how many posts have been in this forum stating that if your conservative you MUST be against legalized mj? Everyone has a right to an opinion.......some of us move to the left and some sway to the right. Balance is a good thing.....keeps ideas flowing.

Have a good one!:s4:

with a title like that i knew it had to be good.

so let me get this straight.....

liberal parents are bad because they want their kids to know the truth about the world and to not judge others that are different?

my parents are liberal and they're the best parents in the world. I myself am an independent... I dislike both major parties; I think theyre both extreme and irrational in lots of issues (Torog's article here is a good example why)

Thank you, FunkNugget.

This is, quite easily, the stupidest and most offensive thread I've yet read here. The only thing to its advantage is that Torog didn't cite Bill O'Reilly or Ann Coulter. I will happily match my parenting skills and that of my husband--and those of our left-learning friends--against those of any parents anywhere. Our kids and their levels of well-adjustedness, success in their endeavors, and happiness speak for themselves. The craziest thing is our success as parents--as is the case with most parents--doesn't have a thing in the world to do with our politics. It has to do with the fact that were were stable, engaged, loving parents who made our child the priority instead of ourselves.

See its other republicans like this that make me hate myself for being a republican. So just that everyone realizes, not every republican is a god fearing, anti gay extremist.

I can not stand crap like this. And I agree with Funk Nugget. Except for the fact that my parents are both republicans. But even so, my very republican parents taught me that being gay is an okay thing. And that everyone deserves respect, regardless of race or sex or sexual orientation.

I will teach my children the same thing. They need to know that sometimes men love men and women love women instead. It's no big deal. These people should not be judged by what they do in their spare time. It's no ones business but their own.

Also, using God as a crutch for having an anti gay agenda is why Im a proud atheist myself.

I don't think politics should be involved with being a parent.

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

Granted mfgr and likewise, how many posts have been in this forum stating that if your conservative you MUST be against legalized mj? Everyone has a right to an opinion.......some of us move to the left and some sway to the right. Balance is a good thing.....keeps ideas flowing.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Yes, I know. I never said that nobody has a right to an opinion. I just think that article is ridiculous, that's all.

And yes, I agree with you, rebgirl.

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I will teach my children the same thing. They need to know that sometimes men love men and women love women instead. It's no big deal. These people should not be judged by what they do in their spare time. It's no ones business but their own.

Also, using God as a crutch for having an anti gay agenda is why Im a proud atheist myself.

I don't think politics should be involved with being a parent.

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-rebgirl


yes, yes, and yes

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Originally Posted by birdgirl73

Thank you, FunkNugget.

This is, quite easily, the stupidest and most offensive thread I've yet read here. The only thing to its advantage is that Torog didn't cite Bill O'Reilly or Ann Coulter. I will happily match my parenting skills and that of my husband--and those of our left-learning friends--against those of any parents anywhere. Our kids and their levels of well-adjustedness, success in their endeavors, and happiness speak for themselves. The craziest thing is our success as parents--as is the case with most parents--doesn't have a thing in the world to do with our politics. It has to do with the fact that were were stable, engaged, loving parents who made our child the priority instead of ourselves.

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Howdy birdgirl73,

I do believe you and y'all are the exception to the rule for left-leaners,because y'all made yer children yer highest priority..may I even go so far as to guess that you didn't treat them like little adults..allowing them to rule the home like many liberals do ?

Many liberal parents realize too late,that treating their children like little adults,has resulted in the loss of their alpha roles as parents and that the children have assumed the alpha roles and with the threat of anti-spanking laws,many liberal parents actually live in fear of their children.

Among us conservative parents here in Texas,you know that dog won't hunt..because we don't surrender our leadership roles.

Have a good one ...

Just look at George W. Bush... Liberals don't need to make Conservatives look bad, he did a great job of that. The best thing of him being president, is that we won't see another republican president for a couple of decades.

Conservative, liberal, blah blah blah. I have voted for people from 3 or 4 parties the last few elections. Many Americans I have spoken to are Socialist, Libertarian, or paleo- Conservative, but they don't realize it.
I think the Democrat/Republican, liberal/conservative paradigm is divisive. Having these two parties in control is a way for those two parties to stay in control. Bush, Clinton, Bush _____ - fill in the blank. The more power these people have, and the more they lust for it, the more they have in common. Do you think George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton have more in common with each other, or the average American? What about his dad, and her husband? Bush was literally backing Clinton recently (as in standing behind her, beaming).

I got so sick of the two party system, I joined the Green Party, but I joined the Republican party so I can vote for Ron Paul in the primaries.

I talked to a climatologist for about 45 minutes (or rather, he talked to me) on the phone about global warming. One thing he said upsets him, is the media takes an extremely complex issue, and reduces it to a few sound bytes.

terror, suicide, conspiracy, immigration reform, globalization, consolidation, reduction in benefits, sexism, racism, kook, wingnut, rabid, dictator, islamofascism, religious right, outsourcing, oil exploration, oil drilling, public servant, authorities, officials

These are just some random terms and phrases I threw out that have one thing in common, they are emotionally charged with extremely varied connotations. My point is, putting labels on people and yourself, can help you understand the world around you, but more often than not, in the instant-gratification, TV-induced-30-second-attention-span society of ours, we are quick to label, and quick to judge. Our brains are constantly bombarded with input from the computer, TV, radio, and advertisements are swirling around us. Our homes are full of them. So, we must filter out a lot of the input and ignore it. We spend so much energy ignoring things, we don't pay attention to what is important, and consequently become ignorant.

I love talking to people, complete strangers, old friends, my wife, my family. I have found in my travels, that many people that I stereotyped as different from me, end up having a lot more in common than I thought... for example: a homeless cokehead, a professor of chemistry, a Vegas card dealer, a thug from the Bronx.

If we look within ourselves at the ways we are racist, sexist, classist, admitting it, then we can change our thoughts, and get along better with our fellow human beings in the world. Listen, anyone emphasizing the differences between you and them probably has something to gain or maintain by division.

It's the old game of, "Let's you and him fight." I am not your enemy. You are not my enemy. The enemy is not the liberals. The enemy is not the conservatives. The enemy is the people who start and perpetuate wars for profit. The enemy is the corporations writing laws. The enemy are the international bankers seeking to wipe out the middle class so there will be only rich and poor. The enemy are the ones moving to destroy national sovereignty in a bid to consolidate their power more and more. The enemy are the ones knowingly poisoning us for profit. Look beyond the labels people give themselves and see what the say, write, and do.

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Conservative, liberal, blah blah blah.

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Best political stance, EVER.

The two major political parties in the U.S. have morphed into one monstor with two heads. What is the difference between the Democrats, who would legislate a more socialist society, and the Republicans, who force socialism down our throats by importing foreigners who will work for slave wages so long as they have their basic needs met by socialist programs that were only designed for a small segment of our (legal) society. Any debate over the merits of Democrat vs. Republican or liberal vs. conservative, as it might apply to those in power, is specious at best and truly detracts from our ability to focus on solving on the real problems that we face; the main one being that we must depose the ruling class and replace the whores with true patriots.

As a conservative, I honestly believe that I have a lot more in common with a patriotic liberal than I do with a New-World-Order neo-con like, say, Sean Hannity. All ideological beliefs need a counter-balance, otherwise they become extreme and oppressive. What has historically made America great is our diversity of opinions and views and ideologies and how they have worked both for and against each other, in a balancing act, in the management of our goverrnment. We don't have that anymore. We only have paid whores who are totally subservient to their multi-national corporate masters.

On another subject, I had to marvel at the total absurdity of Obama's remarks. As the father of a six-year-old son, and the accompianing presence of many other six-year-olds, I can state unequivecally that sex and sexual relationships are about the furthest thing from their young minds. Over the years my son has asked me where babies come from and, over the years, I have explained in increasingly more detail how babies are made. While he is interested in the general concept of babies, he has never expressed any curiosity about the mechanics of the conception process. The point is, six-year-olds have little knowledge of or interest in sexual relations and a conversation like Obama said ocurred with his six-year-old daughter is preposterous.

JMO

PC:smokin:

Yeah, i'm a conservative and I definitely would take classic liberalism over neoconservatism. The Hannitys and Coulters out there just make me sick. That said, the original post is somewhat humorous when taken from the perspective of conservative stereotyping of liberals. Most conservatives believe that liberals are so enamored by having a wide variety of experiences that they tell their kids to touch stoves in order to feel and understand what a hot stove is really like, and to do something really rude and disrespectful to a stranger in order to understand what response it brings and as an opportunity to ponder how it feels to the other person. When taken in that context the post is... hmm.. a bit redundant actually. And the women who work in clothing stores.... how do they know the political orientation of their customers? Oh, and has he ever been in a deep south Wal-Mart? You'll see the most feaux-patriotic, Bush-lovin-even-though-he's-givin'-them-Messicans-all-our-jobs-but-I-really-don't-care-as-long-as-he-protects-us-from-all-them-Iranian-camel-jockeys conservatives on earth, who have the nastiest kids throwing coke at each other with broken arms and chipped teeth from crashing four-willers in that thick stand of trees thar in the holler. So it's not a liberal thing. Oh, and I'm a true conservative, which is the same I guess as a classical liberal.

You would figure that growing up in a religious fundamentalist household would be more damaging to a youngsters development than a secular liberal. I don't see how it would be more damaging to be with more liberal parents.

I think being over bearing on your children is bad any which way you cut it. The damned is thing is people never seem to see that. You should equip your children with the proper tools to conquer the world and as they grow older and experience life for themselves they will have an overall view of it.

torog is funny as fuck like all the time im sorry but it's hard to respect him

psycho4bud just seems more laid back about his conservatism and even though i dont agree with his viewpoints i respect his thought process and his beliefs