Printable View
This is the stupidest fucking thing ive ever seen! I cannot believe the way those cops acted. this just made me hat pigs even more! They tasered him for gods sakes! Look around and u can find more videos of different angles and they also show some of his question
[YOUTUBE]wXa6yj[/YOUTUBE]
YouTube - Kerry Taser Video Raw Footage Afterwards
Sure he was acting a bit like an ass, but all he did was stood up for what he believed in. Kerry was going to answer the question anyway, the timing of it is suspicious.
:(
This topic has been done twice now so give me a second and I'll just copy and paste some things from another thread.
The guy butted his way to the front of the line because he didn't believe he would be able to get to the front in time for his question. This is why the police was flanking him(notice how they didn't arrest him yet or even ask him to leave, I'd call that pretty lenient). Then he goes on to ask 4 questions
"How could you concede?"
"Didn't you wanna be president?"
"Why didn't you say, 'Impeach Bush!'?"
"Were you a member of skull and bones?"
Thats 4 questions asked in his OVER A MINUTE RANT! Now how would you feel if you were the person in the back of the line and just got butted? You would probably just suck it up because its only one question! Oh wait, he gave 4 questions. How is that fair to his fellow man, I mean its so obvious that Meyer's multiple questions are so much more important then all the people he butted.
Now comes the fun part! They police have a job to do and were told to escort the man out. They grab the guy and try to lead him out the door. Now they weren't arresting him yet! They didn't have a kung-fu grip on him obviously because he slipped right out and in doing so it became a disturbance of the peace and resisting an officer. Another officer comes and tries to push him out and Meyer yet AGAIN pulls alway from the officer . The officers and Meyer end up on the ground and he still is resisting when they tell him to roll on his stomach and put his arms around his back. In one of the videos you can clearly see him holding his body up with his hand on a chair. Now they could try to pull him out again. They could wrestle his arms behind him and risk injury. They could of just whipped out the good o'l Baton and beat him into submission. Instead they did the right thing and tazed him(note they did not have him hand cuffed at that point). Obviously it worked because they were able to hand cuff the fella and if you guys have seen the video of after they left the hall he was acting fine.
Reports say that he was light hearted and happy in the police car even going on to say, "I am not mad at you guys, you didn't do anything wrong, you were just doing your job."
Now who is really at fault here? The cops for doing their job? Meyer for starting a ruckus and not leaving the event peacefully?
Now my biggest complaint is the incomplete videos circulating and getting the most press!
Now I'm gonna list some of the videos
^^^
This one seems to cut off at some points but is one of the best. Notice how they are about to get his other hand in the cuffs when he starts fighting again?
NEW VIDEO: University of Florida Taser Incident
^^^^
Whats up with the cut offs in some of these. There used to be a lot of good ones on youtube but they keep disappearing. None the less this shows the aftermath. Looks like the taser worked. He seems to be calming down and not as resistant.
YouTube - University of Florida Student Tasered at John Kerry Speech
^^^
This is one of my favorites. Its not full but gives viewer comments. If you noticed at 3:14 he is using his other hand on the chair as leverage resisting even more.
http://boards.cannabis.com/politics/...-tazering.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by 420budtoker420
there's the other thread regarding this...it just demonstrates how we've accepted greater and greater levels of brutality as being normal...it is rather disgusting.
here are some other examples...
[align=left]Epidemic Of Police Brutality & Harassment
Sweeps America & UK
An epidemic of violence and harassment is sweeping the country. Police are being trained that the general public are the enemy and that they can engage in outright brutality without recourse. Taser deaths are skyrocketing because the police have been ordered to use "pain compliance", otherwise known as torture, to subdue and oppress the citizenry. Police are also increasingly completely unaware of the laws they are supposed to enforce and have resolved to invent offences out of thin air as an excuse to harass people. It is time for police to remember that their duty is to protect the general public from criminals and not act as enforcers for a tyrannical police state.
UK Police Claim Filming Them Is an Offence
Film-maker Darren Pollard was clearing up flood rubbish from his fron garden when he noticed the police harassing a youth opposite his house. Darren retrieved his camera and this is what he filmed!
Americans To Be Tortured For Refusing To Show ID?
A horror video that wouldn't look out of place in Maoist China or Nazi Germany shows a student being repeatedly shot with a stun gun by UCLA police for the crime of not showing his ID. As similar cases begin to pile up how long will it be before Americans are routinely tortured for noncompliance and refusing to have their 4th amendment violated?
Student Tasered For Asking A Question
Andrew Meyer was grabbed by cops after he asked the former presidential candidate why he didn't challenge the rigged election of 2004 and about his membership of the skull and bones secret society. Meyer asked police what he was being arrested for as they dragged him to the back of the University Auditorium before manhandling him to the ground.
Only when Meyer was immobile and had five officers on top of him did the police decide to send 50,000 volts of electricity coursing through his prostrate body, seemingly waiting until Meyer begged them not to do it so as to enjoy the maximum power trip from administrating the torture.
Police Beat Town Councilman Then Arrest Him For Assault
Roseland town council member David Snyder is calling for the resignation of a town marshal after a fight at Friday night's meeting. Snyder says while he was being arrested, he became a victim of police brutality.
WATCH THE VIDEO[/align]
[align=left]Remember that cop who shot the Air Force veteran three times for obeying his order? He was acquitted on all counts.
A San Bernardino County jury Thursday acquitted a former sheriff's deputy of attempted voluntary manslaughter for opening fire on an unarmed, off-duty Air Force police officer after a high-speed chase last year, a brutal shooting videotaped by a bystander and aired nationwide.[/align]
[align=left]Officer On Leave After Woman Tasered
The Warren Police Department is under fire for another accusation of abuse of force. The latest incident happened during a September second arrest in the parking lot of a popular nightclub.
WATCH THE VIDEO[/align]
[align=left]Police Repeatedly Beat Old Man
NYPD thugs repeatedly beat an old man in the head for the crime of "intoxication".[/align]
[align=left]Militarized Police Storm Utah Rave, Beat Partygoers
Armed with assault rifles and tear gas, the police used dogs to sweep the crowd for narcotics. At least one helicopter was used in the operation. The scale of the police response was apparently due to the ineffectiveness of a smaller force used in the previous "Sequence Five" rave. Prior to dispersing the partiers, several police informants had reportedly infiltrated the rave and observed widespread illegal activities. [/align]
[align=left]Police Attack Video Journalist, Steal His Camera
I was attacked by the New York Police Department, who broke my camera AND stole it... as well as my footage. [/align]
[align=left]Cops Choke Kids For Skateboarding
Cop flips on kids for skating downtown in Hot Springs Arkansas. Jarad Graham, Drew Irwin, Skylar Nalls, Matt McCormack, Robbie Brindley, & Casey Canterbury get arrested.
Clay County Woman Shocked With Taser Dies
The family of a Clay County woman who died after being shocked with a Taser by police plan to seek justice. An attorney for the family of Emily Delafield said they plan to sue Green Cove Springs Police for the woman's death. She was shocked nearly a dozen times during a confrontation with officers.
28 seconds : The Killing of Fouad Kaady
In the early afternoon of September 8, 2005, police encountered Fouad Kaady shortly after he was in an accident that left him in shock and bleeding, burned over much of his body. Rather than calling for medical help, the police commanded him to lie on the pavement, even though they could see the burned flesh hanging from his body, and even though they said he appeared to be "in a catatonic state." When he did not comply with their orders, but instead continued to sit on the ground in a daze, they tasered him repeatedly. And then, they shot him to death.
In a report that was typical of the corporate media's response to this killing, Channel 8's ever-mealy-mouthed Kyle Iboshi held up a wad of papers left over from the "investigation" into the death, saying, "you can see how extensive this investigation was." He then commenced to highlight (literally, with a yellow highlighter pen) what he claimed to be the relevant details of the case. Not surprisingly, Iboshi was very selective in what he chose to focus on. He accepted, without question, everything that the PIO had told him to say. He never asked a single question about why two officers might have shot an obviously unarmed man to death. And, he concluded his report by implying that Kaady must have been "on drugs" at the time of the killing, as if that might excuse the officers' behavior.[/align]
[align=left]And so, in a pattern of violence that is repeated almost every day in this country, the police got away with murder. So far, anyway. They did so because they have the power and the authority to carry guns and to use them, and to avoid facing the consequences of their actions. And, they got away with it because the complicit corporate media helped them to weave a story that would lull the public into silence. As in so many incidents like this one, they told a story that was engineered to cause people to blame the victim, and accept the violence. No questions asked.[/align]
[align=left]The truth about what happened to Fouad Kaady is important. It's important to bear witness when a member of our community is cut down like this. It's important to stand up for the person he might have been, rather than accepting the media's portrayal of him as merely some drug-crazed monster who "had it coming." It's important to know just how deep the culture of police violence runs through our cities and towns, and just how fist-in-glove the corporate media has been with the police state. And that's why this video is important. Even if you think you know the story, you're not going to believe this. Over the course of a year and a half, Videoistas painfully and meticulously gathered evidence, combed through records and reports, spoke with witnesses, and pieced together the real story. It's much more disturbing than what you might have seen on KATU, but it's the truth. And the least we can do for a fallen comrade is to take the time to learn the truth about what really happened to him.[/align]
[align=left]Believe it or not, this story is told in the officers' own words. And you won't even believe what you hear. [/align]
[align=left]This video is of The Portland Indymedia video Collective and does not represent or speak for the kaady family.[/align]
[align=left]Officers involved in bar room fight
As many as five Jefferson County Sheriff's deputies have been suspended with pay because of a bar room brawl early Thursday morning, said Sheriff Oliver "Glenn" Boyer. [/align]
^^ is a perfect example
Colbert: Today's kids don't know how to help except by linking
Stephen Colbert added his own slant to the story of a University of Florida student tasered by campus police after he became obnoxious in asking questions following a John Kerry speech.
"Look at these guys in the back," Colbert said, highlighting one frame from the video of the event. "You don't need a Fox body language expert to tell you that kid in orange is bored. He's probably thinking something like, 'I wish they'd stop tasering this guy so I could go home and watch this guy getting tasered on YouTube.'"
"I don't know whether the tasered gentleman had a legitimate point to make or was just being an ass," continued Colbert. "One thing you can't argue is that his cause was joined by hordes of no one. ... Students used to be a rebellious bunch. ... Today's kids are so different."
"The kids in that auditorium who sat idly by as their fellow student was seized, thrown to the ground, and tasered didn't lack the courage to help," Colbert went on. "They're just so used to watching videos like 'Crazy guys thrown out of lecture hall' that they didn't know how to help other than to link to it. I'm sure that guy in the orange is going to spring into action as soon as he gets home and fires up his blog."
"And that's what's so great about this new kind of activism," Colbert concluded. "It's convenient. Just like masturbation. It's better than sex because it's on your own time. So ... make me proud, young people. Continue waging your protests from the polite distance of your home computers. Make 'the Man' wish he'd never visited your site. And if a fellow-student is denied the right to speak, remember, the best way to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with him is by sitting alone in your seat."
Missouri: Police Stake Out Brett Darrow Home [align=left] The Newspaper
Thursday September 26, 2007[/align]
A young Saint Louis, Missouri motorist faces trouble with local police upset at the national attention his September 7 video of an out-of-control officer has drawn to ongoing problems within area law enforcement agencies. On Sunday, Brett Darrow filmed a Saint Louis Metropolitan Police Department cruiser staking out his home.
"It was the first time I've seen it," Darrow told TheNewspaper. "But my neighbor said he's seen a lot of police down our dead end street since all of this happened."
When Darrow walked outside to his 1997 Nissan Maxima, he noticed two officers sitting in a marked squad car, numbered 65. There is little question as to why the officers were there.
"As I got into the car, he started to pull up the street and he and his partner just stared me down," Darrow explained.
(Article continues below)
The patrol car drove away as Darrow started his car and followed. Because his camera had been set to capture night-time footage, the first 45 seconds of the video is obscured. It does, however, capture the police car making questionable turning maneuvers in order to get away. Members of the police community are on the record regarding their desire to stake out Darrow's home and harass the twenty-year-old. In late June, users of St. Louis CopTalk, an unofficial forum for Saint Louis area law enforcement, posted Darrow's home address along with messages containing apparent death threats in retaliation for the young motorist's taping of a DUI roadblock in November and a traffic ticket in June. One CopTalk user repeating the address wrote, "Every copper, City and County, should etch this little punks [sic] name in their [sic] memory. Brett Darrow, [address deleted], city of St. Louis." (View screen capture of post)
This month, however, scandals within the Saint Louis Police Department which otherwise would have been a local story, gathered national attention and fueled additional resentment. Some $40,000 in cash turned up "missing" from the police evidence room on September 17. The city of St. George was forced to fire Sergeant James Kuehnlein for his threat to "come up with reasons" to "lock up" Darrow. An investigation into whether Kuehnlein's actions merit criminal charges is under way. Darrow met on Monday with a Saint Louis County Police Department detective.
"I quickly learned that this was about finding something I did wrong and not the officer," Darrow said.
Despite the official harassment, Darrow has been comforted by an unexpected level of support from the general public. Motorists who recognized him from various television interviews have stopped to thank him or give him the "thumbs up." A judge also dropped charges from the June traffic stop after a Saint Louis police officer failed to show up at a trial where Darrow had been prepared to defend himself with video evidence.
View stalking video.
^^^^
Thats awesome. I don't disagree with every case of cop disobedience/brutality but in the Meyer case I saw no such thing.
Another thing, I'm gonna start checking out these cop forums!
Im a democrat, believe in the legalization of weed, and am a staunch opponent of poliice brutality. These cops are completely brutal, and disgusting. Having said that the little bastard at that john kerry speech had everything coming to him. He is a dumbass and deserved to get tasered. if we begin to punish cops for doing their job, there will be no good cops. When we punish people for doing their job society fails. Look I want weed to be legal too, and I know that police are out of control in the USA, but when we punish people for doing their job we are defeating the purpose of legalizing weed. it is a harmless herb and when dumbasses like that show up in discussions about legalizing it it completely defeats our purpose. It is American to question authority but what that piece of crap dude was doing was a publicity stunt and he deserved what he got. we will never get weed legalized if we continue to put idiots like him on a pedestal.
You should probably change the thread title to:
"UF Student Taserd for disrupting Q & A session, refusing to shut up when told, refusing to be escorted out of the building, and then resisting arrest."
That should do it.
"notice how they didn't arrest him yet or even ask him to leave, I'd call that pretty lenient" - ntcrawler
That is where I have a problem. I don't like how they can put their hands on him and remove him without giving him a reason. Granted he did start to fight it towards the end of the video but I wouldn't go quietly either if cops started forcing me out of the auditorium for no specified reason :(
they police were in the right for tazering him but in the wrong for making him leave in the first olace. A forum of a QandA sessionis NOT the place to escort someone out for making a forceful opinionated interjection. You don't tell someone to shut up when they are exercising their freedom of speech unless it encroaches on the freedom of speech of others. It's not as if his points were completely irrelevant either but because he showed a complete lack of regard for authority (kerry) this scared the police. The police were wrong for arresting him but he was wrong for resisting arrest, end of story.
Now how would you feel if you were the person in the back of the line and just got butted? You would probably just suck it up because its only one question! Oh wait, he gave 4 questions. How is that fair to his fellow man, I mean its so obvious that Meyer's multiple questions are so much more important then all the people he butted.
i would'nt mind as he would be askin the ? i would have and that would have saved me the trip