Police Taser UF Student at Kerry Forum

Wow, this is a bad case of police going way over the line. There are several links everywhere because the footage is so bad. There is one that looks like the professional cameras and one taken by someone holding a camera in an earthquake. The kid asks 3 questions and apparently took too long then the police take him away. Kerry even says he'll answer the questions when the cops go postal on him.

The Independent Florida Alligator: News - UF student Tasered at Kerry forum

Cops Taser student who questioned John Kerry - On Deadline - USATODAY.com

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqAVvlyVbag[/YOUTUBE]

Oh my days, he committed no crime at all and until the police layed hands on him was calm and collected. He was merely asking questions and putting his point across.
Seeing the police like that really gets me raged, it's absolutely disgusting. Protect and serve? Yea, sure.

fuckin filth eh?!

Oh my gosh... I can't believe, no wait, yeah I can, that John Kerry just stood up there, and simply said he'd answer his question as the guy was being pulled away and tasered by those police... At least ask the police to stop? Even give a word of protest of someone's rights being violated infront of his eyes? You'd think the guy would have more balls, but no. What a chump. I am glad he wasn't voted into office, he's just as bad as Bush, just the opposite side.

That is absolutely appalling, he didn't deserve that if you ask me. He was arrested f or what? Freedom of speech?

I think he got what he deserved. Now him trying to ask a question was questionable because he kept going off in other directions when at these forums you only get a time allotted for the question. When he started to pull alway that was resisting arrest and HE KEPT ON DOING IT!!!!

I mean you really should cooperate when being arrested or face the consequences. He was even warned about the taser and instead of saying "Don't taser me, Dude!" He should of just laid on the ground.

I've been slammed on the ground by the cops before and trying to pop right back up is the last thing you do!

Now the cops going up to him in the first place is questionable but that still doesn't warrant resisting arrest.

Thank god there is multiple videos because some of the ones I've seen make it out to be much worse then it really was.

he was arrested for inciting a riot
which was essentially started by the police
that is a pretty sticky situation

I completely agree pb, kerry is a spineless pussy. This video is despicable.

Um yea you don't get uppity with law enforcement. You plead your case with your attorney present. I understand liberties are taken from citizens as we some what saw here, but you don't intern try to take said liberties at that time. I think the best thing to do follow instructions to some degree while mentally taking note of any and all civil liberties encroached upon by said officer.IDK he was doing an awfully lot of moving when they told him to lye still and what not. Hey I think the kid is right that was excessive but im just saying could of been avoided to some extent.Sorry just got a nice sack and this is my first toke in a day or two so i'm kinda blown :hippy:

I mean it was obvious that they slowly upped the force! He was able to to pull alway and go back to the stage when their were to officers on both sides of him then a third had to come. Even when he was on the ground he pulled his upper body up so I mean the cops were being pretty lenient with him but he just kept going.

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Um yea you don't get uppity with law enforcement. You plead your case with your attorney present. I understand liberties are taken from citizens as we some what saw here, but you don't intern try to take said liberties at that time. I think the best thing to do follow instructions to some degree while mentally taking note of any and all civil liberties encroached upon by said officer.IDK he was doing an awfully lot of moving when they told him to lye still and what not. Hey I think the kid is right that was excessive but im just saying could of been avoided to some extent.Sorry just got a nice sack and this is my first toke in a day or two so i'm kinda blown :hippy:

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I think I agree somewhat, the young mans actions weren't the best moves to make. However the Police were far too over the top, and didn't really have any need to grab him in the first place. Yes, he may have gone over his allotted time, but Kerry and the audience seemed quite entertained by him and happy for him to go on, wouldn't you agree? Kerry even credited the mans question as an important one. I also think the young man was genuinely scared, I think I would be also judging by the size of some of those police.

Whats the name of the book he is talk about? I've tried to play it back but its muffled over the mike

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I mean it was obvious that they slowly upped the force! He was able to to pull alway and go back to the stage when their were to officers on both sides of him then a third had to come. Even when he was on the ground he pulled his upper body up so I mean the cops were being pretty lenient with him but he just kept going.

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Most likely due to being scared, and wrongfully arrested in the first place. I think plenty of people would act in the same way. What else would he have to achieve from resisting arrest? Everyone in that hall looked pretty shocked by the event and the way the police handled him. We say that these people should know better, but it's the police that should know better. They are trained to handle these situations, instead they read the situation wrong and hurt someone in the process.

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Whats the name of the book he is talk about? I've tried to play it back but its muffled over the mike

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"Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast." I think.

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Originally Posted by Nation_1ne

However the Police were far too over the top, and didn't really have any need to grab him in the first place.

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I agree they shouldn't of touched him, but they did and if after asking they didn't allow him to continue his question he then should of gone with them.

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Yes, he may have gone over his allotted time, but Kerry and the audience seemed quite entertained by him and happy for him to go on, wouldn't you agree? Kerry even credited the mans question as an important one.

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No I think he had a right to ask his question until he got blue in the face. I think when politicians come out from hiding we need to hit them with questions of relevance to the governing of our nation. I think he had a hell of a point

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I also think the young man was genuinely scared, I think I would be also judging by the size of some of those police. I also think the young man was genuinely scared, I think I would be also judging by the size of some of those police.

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I would of been terrified in the same situation but in no way does my fear warrant me to resist arrest. Be as mouthy as you want but not fight force with force.

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"Armed Madhouse by Greg Palast." I think.

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Thanks thats it and I think Ill pick it up

right or wrong when a cop tells you i'm gonna taser your ass if you don't stop....you stop... and if you don't stop you get nailed....even if the arrest was wrongful the force was not

Dude. This is a university, these are all college students. They have their own way of dealing with things. The police need to learn that. The law is not above its own law. Not happy.


Also, is there a follow up video? I want to hear the question answered and possibly see the after math.

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Originally Posted by DebuteMachine23

Dude. This is a university, these are all college students. They have their own way of dealing with things. The police need to learn that. The law is not above its own law. Not happy.


Also, is there a follow up video? I want to hear the question answered and possibly see the after math.

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Hahaha, The cops were probably working school security any hows. Your still on American soil any way.

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Originally Posted by thecreator

I agree they shouldn't of touched him, but they did and if after asking they didn't allow him to continue his question he then should of gone with them.

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Touche

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No I think he had a right to ask his question until he got blue in the face. I think when politicians come out from hiding we need to hit them with questions of relevance to the governing of our nation. I think he had a hell of a point

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Ha, I was agreeing with you. I was just stating that he had gone over his allotted time so no one could come back at me with that as an argument. I agree wholeheartedly with you, he had every right to ask questions until he was blue in the face. But if this was the case, only a select few would get to ask a question. By no means is it an offence to be dragged away by the police though. It's safe to say we agree here.

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I would of been terrified in the same situation but in no way does my fear warrant me to resist arrest. Be as mouthy as you want but not fight force with force.

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Yet again, fair point. I feel that he was quite frightened though and the only explanation for his resist. He obviously knew he had been done wrongly hence his continuous questioning as to why he had been arrested in the first place.

As I said though, I do mostly agree with you and can see where you're coming from. I'm just saying I can sympathise with the way he reacted towards the police when they started grappling. It's not a good idea to resist, but in such a situation I don't think we would be so level headed.

It's not a good idea to resist, but in such a situation I don't think we would be so level headed.[/QUOTE]

IDK I agree that we agree :D but I think he had a mindset of being kinda "Yea" ya know? Anyway that was a great discussion :thumbsup: I think I'm going to spark another bowl

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IDK I agree that we agree :D but I think he had a mindset of being kinda "Yea" ya know? Anyway that was a great discussion :thumbsup: I think I'm going to spark another bowl

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Agreed, it was good.

I sparked one up during, enjoy the bowl ;)

P.s you just knocked me up to "A Name known to all" thanks.

He should have played it cool, but that doesn't make the police conduct any less disgusting. I fucking hate most police. Some are cool, but the majority of ones I've met are complete assholes and bullies.

I watched this on TV and the dude had it comin'. He was dragging on a question to a point where they finally shut off his microphone then he started to resist the cops when asked to leave.

Knowing full well that the cops have mase, stun guns....(hell, he was even WARNED that they'd stun him).....only an idiot would act up like that.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

I watched this on TV and the dude had it comin'. He was dragging on a question to a point where they finally shut off his microphone then he started to resist the cops when asked to leave.

Knowing full well that the cops have mase, stun guns....(hell, he was even WARNED that they'd stun him).....only an idiot would act up like that.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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Kerry was fine with the question. They cut his mic because he said blow job. I'd also say he should of been calm, but.. at the same time, could I be? I'd probably be furious if some officers tried to apprehend me for no reason.

It wasn't just blow job. The guy was droning on trying more to get his voice heard then to ask a question. Taking up more time that other people could of had to get questions answered.

I'm from north Florida and have a ton of friends who go to U.F., and from what I can tell the guy appeared to be resisting, but I don't think he should have been sh-sh-shocked by the fuzz!

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I watched this on TV and the dude had it comin'. He was dragging on a question to a point where they finally shut off his microphone then he started to resist the cops when asked to leave.

Knowing full well that the cops have mase, stun guns....(hell, he was even WARNED that they'd stun him).....only an idiot would act up like that.

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Right! Not that I've had many run ins with the po-po....but I'm thinkin' that when they grab you and start to manhandle you, wrenching your arms away and raising them over your head while continuing to make a bunch of noise isn't the correct course of action. I talked to my pops about this and he said that he wasn't sure that he could have stayed calm either if he was being grabbed and manhandled, but I still say that the best course of action is to go along with what the officers are telling you to do and sue later....you know there's cameras EVERYWHERE, so just do your part to appear the victim and let the cops make themselves look bad....

But how about Kerry and his amazing talent for just standing there gawking while this dude was getting an order of whoop ass with a side of taser?

First thing I think reading these posts is if that was at a George Bush rally, everyone of you saying "its no big deal, he had it coming", would be crying that Republicans are fucking Nazis and that we live in a Theocratic Neo-Conservative Police State!!!!.....so, yeah right....."he had it coming"......lol.......sure, side with the pigs for now, until its one of your buddies.

I think, he kinda got what he wanted, he'll be fine, and he made his point + got his 15 seconds of fame.

Wasnt he just protesting? They arrested him for disturbing the peace.....kinda gray area there whats what.

FUCK, FUCK, FUCK THE PO-LICE, YO FUCK'EM!

p.s. if it was me, I would have gotten my point out a little faster so it wouldnt matter about the cops.....he rambled and said blow-job for a laugh. He could have used the opportunity better IMO.

Just some cops having fun and they got a little out of hand.
They never miss a chance to rough somebody up.It makes up for there small peckers and shriveled up balls.

Pretty sh*ty if you ask me!:wtf: F**kin pigs! Completely out of control!

what happened to freedom of speech, oh yeah...the patriot act

YouTube - University of Florida student Tasered at Kerry forum

hes going to get some money ;) prolly 300K after lawyers fees and taxes

this thread can be deleted, i was to high to check if someone already posted this

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

I watched this on TV and the dude had it comin'. He was dragging on a question to a point where they finally shut off his microphone then he started to resist the cops when asked to leave.

Knowing full well that the cops have mase, stun guns....(hell, he was even WARNED that they'd stun him).....only an idiot would act up like that.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

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Stun guns are supposed to be used as a last resort, not a quick shortcut solution. From watching that video, it's painfully obvious that they just wanted the shortcut.

I don't think it's long before people start to gang up to fight the police in these situations, honestly. Police are supposed to serve and protect. The only thing he was harming was my eardrums with his annoying voice. I don't think grabbing the guy was necessary and I totally understand his reaction.

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what happened to freedom of speech, oh yeah...the patriot act

YouTube - University of Florida student Tasered at Kerry forum

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The least you could do is post a full video.

YouTube - UF Student tasered at John Kerry Speech

So many incomplete videos going around.

YouTube - UF Student Tasered at John Kerry Q & A

Heres one that goes even further.

He also asked 4 different questions with out even giving Kerry a chance to answer each.

1. How could you concede?

2. Didn't you wanna be president?

3. Why didn't you say, IMPEACH BUSH?

4. Were you a member of the skull and crossbones?

Another article also indicates that there was even more before any of the videos we've seen. A eyewitness gave a testimony in a Florida newspaper.

The cameras did not catch Meyer cutting off a student five words into a question, said Kathleen Shea, a junior who attended the forum.

' "Not only did he jump up out of turn to the microphone, he was being very condescending," she said.

That's when students started pulling out their cameras, the student organizers cut off his microphone, and campus police tried to pull him away, Shea said. '

The Swamp: Witness defends Kerry response to Taser incident

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He also asked 4 different questions with out even giving Kerry a chance to answer each.

1. How could you concede?

2. Didn't you wanna be president?

3. Why didn't you say, IMPEACH BUSH?

4. Were you a member of the skull and crossbones?

Another article also indicates that there was even more before any of the videos we've seen. A eyewitness gave a testimony in a Florida newspaper.

The cameras did not catch Meyer cutting off a student five words into a question, said Kathleen Shea, a junior who attended the forum.

' "Not only did he jump up out of turn to the microphone, he was being very condescending," she said.

That's when students started pulling out their cameras, the student organizers cut off his microphone, and campus police tried to pull him away, Shea said. '

The Swamp: Witness defends Kerry response to Taser incident

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Yep, being rude warrants tasings.

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Yep, being rude warrants tasings.

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Oh c'mon. Its not like they pulled out the taser in the first place! They tried pulling him out and he yanked alway back towards the stage. They tried again and HE YANKED ALWAY AGAIN!!!!

If was obvious he wasn't gonna go now so they take him on the ground to put hand cuffs on him and he doesn't stay on his stomach and put his hands around his back as he was told. Now they could of wrestled him more to get him to cooperate and possibly injure him while trying to get his hands behind his back. They could of also took a few swings with a baton to get him to be a little more submissive. Instead they used a taser and apparently it WORKED!! In the video of after they started walking him out he seemed fine and a lot more calm then he was before.

There was rules to the forum, he broke them so he was to be escorted out and he just wasn't going to have that.