How bad is the world getting now

gangs, guns, stealing police cars, bikes, drugs and sending these pictures and videos to everyone via mobile phone. this is about 10 mins away from where I live and the people who do this are about 13-20. scary to think that anyone can get there hands on guns these day even kids.

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp0oJ6HIolY[/YOUTUBE]
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvAHVzlIqB8[/YOUTUBE]
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L8n9XHUMmA[/YOUTUBE]
[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xYzEgA91Eg[/YOUTUBE]

takes me back to my youth

of riding dirt bikes

When we judge society today, we often over look our history. Things are bad, but not quite as bad as we seem to think.

I prophesize the world is coming to an end.We will all be dead by morning unless you repent and send me 5 dollars for a wonderful love gift.lol

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Originally Posted by Nation_1ne

When we judge society today, we often over look our history. Things are bad, but not quite as bad as we seem to think.

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I think children being able to get ahold of any drugs or guns they want at any age is quite bad.

The world moves in its motion and we have no control over it. Along with progress comes disidence...The youth are getting restless.

that shit makes me sick, people should get together an lynch all of em. least them there outta the gene pool

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Originally Posted by snowblind

that shit makes me sick, people should get together an lynch all of em. least them there outta the gene pool

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thats not very chill at all :(

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Originally Posted by junther22

thats not very chill at all :(

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Dont talk wet.

They are silly little children with no respect for human life.

You wouldnt say chill if one of them shot you down, FOR NO REASON.

They deserve everything they get - and if it was up to me they'd be dismembered - while they're alive.

And anyone who says im wrong and over the top doesnt have a clue what they're talking about.

And anyone who says im wrong and over the top doesnt have a clue what they're talking about.

I like the way you set it straight.:)


I believe that what's happening is ruff but remember that the press will dramatize things to make a story!!
Don't get me wrong,there are ruff people but there a minority.
Remember that!!:rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by bunnyc

And anyone who says im wrong and over the top doesnt have a clue what they're talking about.

I like the way you set it straight.:)


I believe that what's happening is ruff but remember that the press will dramatize things to make a story!!
Don't get me wrong,there are ruff people but there a minority.
Remember that!!:rastasmoke:

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Trouble is the minority is growing into a majority.

Someone needs to devise a Zombie virus already. . .

The last video hould be called "Accident Waiting to Happen"...

The other ones should just be called, maybe "twats" or something?

Did anyone read the article about that 11yr old rhys jones getting gunned down in liverpool fair enough some people probably deserve something like that but not an 11yr old child thats just sick and wrong heres the article on it anyway.

Rhys shot on anniversary of Liverpool killing - Telegraph

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Originally Posted by cannabis campbell

Did anyone read the article about that 11yr old rhys jones getting gunned down in liverpool fair enough some people probably deserve something like that but not an 11yr old child thats just sick and wrong heres the article on it anyway.

Rhys shot on anniversary of Liverpool killing - Telegraph

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THAT i why i think these idiots running around with guns dont deserve to live.

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The decision was made in response to concerns raised by local residents about youths gathering outside the pub and local shops.

The Fir Tree pub where Rhys was gunned down stands next to a collection of shops and a car park that is notorious for attracting gangs of youths, say local residents.

"There is a real problem with anti-social behaviour," said a local woman who did not want to be identified.

"Close to where Rhys was killed, near the shops, they sell drugs and have guns.

"There aren't enough police on the streets. You never see them round here until something bad happens and by then it's too late."

The landlord of the Fir Tree pub, who did not want to be named, said that parishioners from St Cuthbert's Church and local residents had asked the council and police to help install CCTV in the area but had been turned down on grounds of costs.

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Thats pathetic how can you put a price on someones life, another reason why I hate the government is because they dont actually care about what goes on on the streets, you could so easily cut down on gun crime like hiring more police or obviously having armed police in places like liverpool where there is guncrime and done hesitate to shoot to kill after all its you or them and random searches etc.. the government only cares about money.

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Originally Posted by cannabis campbell

Thats pathetic how can you put a price on someones life, another reason why I hate the government is because they dont actually care about what goes on on the streets, you could so easily cut down on gun crime like hiring more police or obviously having armed police in places like liverpool where there is guncrime and done hesitate to shoot to kill after all its you or them and random searches etc.. the government only cares about money.

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I feel exactly the same way. They work for us, yet they dont care about us. It's all about them. We pay income tax, road tax, tax on EVERYTHING. We pay STUPID amounts of council tax and NOTHING happens. They couldnt give a shit about us.

Now i hope people will start realising i have my extreme views on the Government for a REASON. A very REAL reason. As far as i'm concerned ANYONE who sides with, or promotes, OR defends the government is no friend of mine. EVER.

lip i feel the exact same way bro, you have earned my respect yet again, im giving to you some rep+


peace out TjM

o damn i already gave you rep a few days ago i think, to bad,


peace out TjM

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Originally Posted by cannabis campbell

I think children being able to get ahold of any drugs or guns they want at any age is quite bad.

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They could during the 2nd world war too. Children shot other children then as well. I'm not denying things are bad, or increasing. But everyone thinks that all these things are shocking and unheard of. Well, they're not. Crimes like rape were very common during the 2nd world war, yet people have this impression that it was almost non existent.

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Originally Posted by LIP

Dont talk wet.

They are silly little children with no respect for human life.

You wouldnt say chill if one of them shot you down, FOR NO REASON.

They deserve everything they get - and if it was up to me they'd be dismembered - while they're alive.

And anyone who says im wrong and over the top doesnt have a clue what they're talking about.

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No one's vigilant anymore, and children are under heavy protection from schools and parents. This is why the issue has escalated somewhat I feel.

yo children shooting people in a war is a million miles away from wanna be gta angsters gunning down 11yr old kids in the street.

this stuff needs to stop

your right no one is vigilant but in the uk there has been a number of cases of people who have and have been injured/brain damaged/ killed. most people dont wanna give there lives.

the worst is that there all mostly under 16 and without pubes that the serve very trivial sentences, a kid that hit a man with a brick brain damaging him enough to warrent the remove of this left frontal lobe got 15 months adn was release after 7.

the governement and politicans dont do shit because they dont wanna look like they are alienating voters or are dissin the kids.

this kids make up a small majority but push around the majority due to the media and localised cases.

like i said we should ante up and deal out some vigilante punishment.

but then this just makes us as bad.

im just waiting till one of the fuckers comes into my yard.

peace

thats no worse then the gang problem we had in the 90's

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Originally Posted by snowblind

yo children shooting people in a war is a million miles away from wanna be gta angsters gunning down 11yr old kids in the street.

this stuff needs to stop

your right no one is vigilant but in the uk there has been a number of cases of people who have and have been injured/brain damaged/ killed. most people dont wanna give there lives.

the worst is that there all mostly under 16 and without pubes that the serve very trivial sentences, a kid that hit a man with a brick brain damaging him enough to warrent the remove of this left frontal lobe got 15 months adn was release after 7.

the governement and politicans dont do shit because they dont wanna look like they are alienating voters or are dissin the kids.

this kids make up a small majority but push around the majority due to the media and localised cases.

like i said we should ante up and deal out some vigilante punishment.

but then this just makes us as bad.

im just waiting till one of the fuckers comes into my yard.

peace

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You're missing my point. I'm not talking about the numbers in crime. I'm saying that these crimes aren't new, they have been going on for years. I agree the rise in certain crimes is alarming. But we also need to take into consideration that technology has improved a great deal, helping us keep record of any crimes that happen.

I personally feel that your Government is at fault. Children are given too much freedom. I believe children do have rights, but they also need restrictions and discipline.

Nation_1ne exactly my point I (or anyone) never said that these crimes were new did we? thats not the point here of course these crimes were around a long time ago, and it has got worse I mean no one is really safe anymore even if you keep yourself out of the gang culture lifestyle you are still at great risk of being gunned down for no reason at all, at least in the war there was a reason because they were trying to take over the land but this is just plain stupidity.

they aren't knew but they are worse, more prevelant and the kids are getting younger and younger. as for this country over the last 10 -15 years it is a relatively new problem. 20 years ago it just didnt happen. yes there was violence in areas of low wealth but nothing like what we see today, that has seemingly moved from localised areas of boarderline poverty to areas of 'relatively' well off places.

it is the governments fault, but also the fault of other contributing factor. such as reduced disipline powers of schools. the under manning of the police force. this is a combination of positive racial action, where areas have to recruit people of only certin ethnicity to meet the governement targets of diversity, upshot turning away white people for the jobs and reduced street police to persue other crimes. the uk police force at the moment is the most staffed it has ever been.

but mostly i think it is demise of community in general and the lack of parental discipline and knowledge that leads to inbread youths taking arms to the streets. when i was a kid if i did wrong i got a clip round the ear from my dad. nowadays if you hit a child you got the middle class liberal suburbanites on your case and the kid could have you charged.

i honestly believe we should have a three strikes system for under 18's. if you get three you get drafted, simple as, manditory 5 years.

this way they will learn discipline. not clog up our prisions and get em off the street. plus it mite scare the fuck out of some of them into growing up.

It all starts at HOME.

Parents don't want to parent anymore. They want to be bestest friends and set no boundries.
My brother lives in a hoity doity neighborhood and the parents are going to jail for having a high school kegger party. 2 kids were killed trying to drive home. It was very scary. I know some of the p's and kids involved and I'm telling ya. The kids are running the house and raising the parents. and these are RICH people too!!
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i think every punk teenager that thinks thier hot shit and untouchable like that needs just one decent slug to the jaw by an adult... it'll hurt, but it wont kill em, and it'll knock some respect into em. My little brother can be a wild one, nothing like these vids, but he challenged me one day so I took him up on it, took em out back, never really swung at him but tossed him around quite a bit, It hurt his pride a bit, knocked some respect and sense into him, and I think it was just what he needed.

What if these criminals are on some sort of next level? How people look down on Marijuana, people probably look down on these kids and that's what makes them into who they are. I won't say bad parenting bla bla because some parents are wonderful people and their kids turn out into something that doesn't resemble them at all?

I don't think having the macho thinking of 'I'd kill em all if I had the chance' does anything to improve the situation. Try to understand WHY they are out there commiting these crimes in the first place.

I'm in no way defending any crime but simply 'punishing' these 'Kids' won't change anything.

Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin

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Originally Posted by LIP

Dont talk wet.

They are silly little children with no respect for human life.

You wouldnt say chill if one of them shot you down, FOR NO REASON.

They deserve everything they get - and if it was up to me they'd be dismembered - while they're alive.

And anyone who says im wrong and over the top doesnt have a clue what they're talking about.

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Well said LIP, we need to start coming down hard on these people, get shot of the "poor little souls they never had a teddy when they were young so that is an excuse for them to be little thugs" do gooders brigade. Public flogging and very long sentences in army run rehabilitation camps are what is needed.
Capitol punishment should also be brought back
I can see vigilante squads coming very soon as our government seems to favour the criminal instead of the victim.

Cheers
NCM

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Originally Posted by hero3279

What if these criminals are on some sort of next level? How people look down on Marijuana, people probably look down on these kids and that's what makes them into who they are. I won't say bad parenting bla bla because some parents are wonderful people and their kids turn out into something that doesn't resemble them at all?

I don't think having the macho thinking of 'I'd kill em all if I had the chance' does anything to improve the situation. Try to understand WHY they are out there commiting these crimes in the first place.

I'm in no way defending any crime but simply 'punishing' these 'Kids' won't change anything.

Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin

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True its because they have nothing to do most likely never went to school and not really interested in much or any sport at all, have no time for a job or cant be bothered with one which is most likely the case.. spend most of their time doing drugs which is an expensive habbit and can easily get there hands on weapons guns etc to commit crimes, its simply because its their lifestyle.

i think it is a combination of all the factors that have been mentioned. but the question is what do we do about it. i dont want these kids in my college or my kids classrooms. i dont wanna pay extra taxes so they can go on adventure weekends. they make their own choices and those will make them.

Well to be honest with you snowblind mate theres absolutely NOTHING you can do apart from teach your children to look after themselves but even then that doesnt protect them from bullets does it?

No one can ever really be 100% safe and its just getting worse and worse imo.

That's why we need to get rid of them permanantly.

It's kill or be killed -

I know what I'D personally want to do - but oh no - our Government has much better ideas like making them go rock climbing - fucking idiots.

Cameron is a MORON, Brown is just as bad, thank fuck blairs gone, Ming is a dying old idiot.

There is no party that will actually give us what we want - so we should so it ourselves. It's OUR country afterall. We should choose how we want to do things.

Yeah I agree with you LIP mate there is one party thats trying to make weed legal which would overall make it a lot cheaper for us and Im sure the government would make a LOT of money from that as they would be able to control it and make sure it is safe and a lot of people smoke weed in the UK, but I doubt that will ever happen to be honest.

What about changing weed to a Class B when are they planning on bringing this in? (not that its really going to make a difference)

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Originally Posted by Nation_1ne

When we judge society today, we often over look our history. Things are bad, but not quite as bad as we seem to think.

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no, its worse

"Jenkem" All The Rage In Zambia, Southern Africa

Lusaka, Zambia -- A new trend in drug abuse has hit Southern Africa -- the huffing of gases from fermented fecal material scooped out of sewers in Lusaka, Zambia.
The drug, called Jenkem, causes auditory and visual hallucinations and its use is quickly spreading from its home in Zambia to other parts of the Southern African continent where persons, desperate to get high and too poor to afford glue or paint, have been left inhaling the smell of their own fecal matter.

"With glue, I just hear voices in my head. But with Jenkem, I see visions. I see my mother who is dead and I forget about the problems in my life," Luke Mpande, a Jenkem user, told the BBC, "It lasts about an hour."

The drug is made by defecating in a bottle and then urinating in it, or, alternately, scooping a mixture of fecal material and urine from an open sewer. A balloon is placed on top of the jar containing the waste material, and the jar is allowed to sit in the hot sun for several days until it ferments, forcing gas into the balloon. The contents of the balloon is then inhaled.

Jenkem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


that's right, people are now huffing their own shit and piss to get high. it is the end times

i love how the media talks about these terrible drugs but then go on to tell you how to do them

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Originally Posted by cannabis campbell

Yeah I agree with you LIP mate there is one party thats trying to make weed legal which would overall make it a lot cheaper for us and Im sure the government would make a LOT of money from that as they would be able to control it and make sure it is safe and a lot of people smoke weed in the UK, but I doubt that will ever happen to be honest.

What about changing weed to a Class B when are they planning on bringing this in? (not that its really going to make a difference)

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I know, it's a joke. Your right - it wont make a blind bit of differnce. They seem to think making things illegal stops them. They seem to think that if they make cannabis look dangerous people wont smoke it - but it's bullshit. They're ideas backfired before they proposed them.

The majorty of people want it legal anyway - even those who dont smoke dont see why their taxes should be wasted on people smoking plants - im sure everyone will agree with me when i say i want MY hard earned money spent of things that will actually benefit the country - like sorting out the kids - and sorting out all these drunks.

Drug related crime is ONLY here because it's illegal. ONLY.

It's like the grit weed - it's ONLY because it's illegal.

Prohibition brings more problems than it solves - oh hang on, it doesnt solve anything, so all it does it create MORE problems.

I dont agree with hard drugs at all - scum drugs i call em, but IF they WERE legal and freely avaliable on the NHS there wouldnt be such a thing as drug related crime - and concidering drug related crime contributes so damn much, you'd think the government would at least concider the sensible approach.

They only have to look at Holland - soft drugs are as good as legal - highly tolerated. The number of hard drug users fell, and the number of soft drug uses has HARDLY increased at all.

Holland also came out on top for almost everything - education, quality of life etc.

Our Government couldnt care less - and by never doing ANYTHING for us, they just keep proving it.

Democracy my fucking arse - concidering we didnt even vote brown in.

It's more like a dictatorship.

Our Government is the sole cause of the decline of this country - it's ALL their fault, and they cant even admit it. EVERYTHING they do is about them - to save face. It's pathetic. They lie, they cheat - their corrupt [the cash for honers MORE than proved that to everyone]

They promise us so much, we elect them and then what happens - they go against ALL of our wishes, and then suggest the most stupid, childish ideas i've EVER heard.

WHAT government in the fucking world suggest babies and toddlers should be tested in their babbling and crying? OUR's did. Yes, it's true. Now, doesnt that make you sick to your stomach.

They've ruined the country and as far as im concerned it's either up to us to do something, or just leave it to turn into an even worse shithole - and if we DONT do something im positive it WILL turn into a worse shithole than it is now.

LIP, I think you've summed it all up. It's not all doom and gloom though, as long as there are more good people than bad, it's all good, but the good don't even speak up anymore.