weed should be legal, but not sold by vendors

Lets face it, the government will do anything to drain us of all the money they can. Marijuana should be legal, but not sold in head shops and shit, but it would be ok to buy from your friends or grow it. if the government sold it to the public, you'd be smoking OK weed at best, and for shit like white widow, youd probly drop a buck for say, 2 g's, because thats the way it is. I would like to see a world where everyone can smoke, and be happy, and content and not worried that they will get caught.

that would never happen, if the government ever did decide to legalize it they would have big companies producing it so that they could get money from it. I think they would probably make it legal to be sold in stores and cannabis clubs but illegal for people to grow or sell.

yeah and people would still grow it

i think you should be allowed to have like 1-10 plants for personal use and anything else u would have to register with and stuff

but knowing this countries goverment that wouldnt happen

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Originally Posted by scasper1010

just so you kno if it was legal they would have restrictions on it like cigarettes. Tax it heavily and make it illegal to grow because they wont be able to tax it

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While I do agree that the government probably would tax it probably would not be comparable to cigarettes. Think about it, the government taxes when they can get a lot of money or when they have to. The gov't can get tons of $$ off cigarettes because there is both huge demand AND health benefits to be gained by dissuading people from smoking.

With marijuana on the other hand, there are far less people interested or participating in smoking, therefor harder to tax for high dollar. Second, the health risks are next to zilch for MJ so that issue is not such a big deal either. Just food for thought, it might be more of a niche drug that is barely taxed if at all.

Of course it can be taxed. Not everyone is going to want to grow it. Just like any of us cigarette smokers could probably grow tobacco, while it would be illegal, mostly none of us do it. There would be companies growing it for commercial value, companies selling seeds (legally), etc. Not everyone has the patience and will to grow good pot, or any at all. Just like we could all probably take the time to learn how to cook gourmet dinners, we'd rather not and go out to a gourmet restaurant. So yes, it can be taxed.

deftdrummer: tens of millions of people smoke cannabis often in the U.S., just thought I'd let you know that, because I think you're a bit wrong on there being far less people interested in smoking. While I don't think that there will be much, if any, permanent increase in usage if legalized, I do think more people would be open to try it at least once, or do it occasionally. For the most part, I think the demand would be just as high as tobacco. After all, tobacco is unhealthy. Cannabis is not such a destructive habit.

i think it should be sold by venders like medical marijuana banks and have different kinds you can pick from but keep the bud free off all additives like the ones they put in siggys

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Originally Posted by mfqr

deftdrummer: tens of millions of people smoke cannabis often in the U.S., just thought I'd let you know that, because I think you're a bit wrong on there being far less people interested in smoking. While I don't think that there will be much, if any, permanent increase in usage if legalized, I do think more people would be open to try it at least once, or do it occasionally. For the most part, I think the demand would be just as high as tobacco. After all, tobacco is unhealthy. Cannabis is not such a destructive habit.

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ok dude, all I was getting at was that there are far more people that smoke cigarettes in the world than do marijuana and thats why I said that. As far as people being likely to be more interested in weed if it were legal; I highly doubt that mfqr. Think about it, why is someone more likely to get into marijuana just because it is legal? Nobody I have ever known has decided against first time marijuana use simply because it is illegal. The truth of the matter is that is not really a concern to most people. So indeed, I think you are wrong my friend

If legalized I don't think the goverment would restrict growing it. They don't tax the growing of tobacco, only the selling of it. I can grow tobbacco in my back yard and cure and smoke it no problems, its when it is cultivated and sold that tax comes into the equation, I personally think it should be the same for mj, if you grow and do not sell for profit then no restrictions, but if you cultivate to sell you should be taxed and have to get a licensce and be subject to inspections just like anything esle. Thats because while most people are good natured, there will be greedy growers who grow in unsanitary conditions, spray glass on the bud to increase weight, no flushing ferts, and all that shit should be regulated to protect consumers.

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Originally Posted by ncnavguy

If legalized I don't think the goverment would restrict growing it. They don't tax the growing of tobacco, only the selling of it. I can grow tobbacco in my back yard and cure and smoke it no problems, its when it is cultivated and sold that tax comes into the equation, I personally think it should be the same for mj, if you grow and do not sell for profit then no restrictions, but if you cultivate to sell you should be taxed and have to get a licensce and be subject to inspections just like anything esle. Thats because while most people are good natured, there will be greedy growers who grow in unsanitary conditions, spray glass on the bud to increase weight, no flushing ferts, and all that shit should be regulated to protect consumers.

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Agreed! :thumbsup:

yeah if they ever legalize it here in the states the gov't will regulate it heavily...expect taxes and weird prices

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Originally Posted by voltabud

Lets face it, the government will do anything to drain us of all the money they can. Marijuana should be legal, but not sold in head shops and shit, but it would be ok to buy from your friends or grow it. if the government sold it to the public, you'd be smoking OK weed at best, and for shit like white widow, youd probly drop a buck for say, 2 g's, because thats the way it is. I would like to see a world where everyone can smoke, and be happy, and content and not worried that they will get caught.

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Well in alot of places its almost like that...here for example you can smoke in a park or on the streets or wherever and noone will bother you..

well infact for smoking weed...you could get a fine maybe (well some friends got caught with 18g's in a bag and 7g's in another and a scale and got a 60 bucks fine..) but thats if youre really unlucky

So being like that, I MUCH MUCH prefer it to be illegal than regulated by the govt. FUCK IT, they wont be gettin money off OUR trees.

i agree, its been this way for so long it might really throw things out of whack by changing it.

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ok dude, all I was getting at was that there are far more people that smoke cigarettes in the world than do marijuana and thats why I said that. As far as people being likely to be more interested in weed if it were legal; I highly doubt that mfqr. Think about it, why is someone more likely to get into marijuana just because it is legal? Nobody I have ever known has decided against first time marijuana use simply because it is illegal. The truth of the matter is that is not really a concern to most people. So indeed, I think you are wrong my friend

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I think you misunderstood what I said. I did not say that more people would smoke it often. However, I said more people would be open to the idea of at least trying it. So indeed, I think you misunderstood my post, and you might want to re-read it to understand what I said my friend.

There is, in fact, a real-world example of what I said could happen. In Holland, when it became tolerated to use it (though not legal, technically), the use of cannabis went up a little bit for a small period of time. However, after that time it leveled back to normal. So no, I was not trying to say that suddenly a bunch of otherwise non-toking people would start tokin' it up. Rather, I said the otherwise non-toking people would be more open to try it. Being that it would be legal, it would definitely not be as demonized and looked down upon (though, an example of the opposite would be cigarette usage, but that's because everyone knows that there are harmful chemical additives), and more acceptable in general, like alcohol is. Therefore, more people would be open to at least trying it.

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i agree, its been this way for so long it might really throw things out of whack by changing it.

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Just like making it illegal in the first place threw things out of whack? :thumbsup:

Personally, I think it should definitely be legal. Legal to grow, legal to sell commercially with a license. Don't like the tax? Grow your own. I still think that even with the tax that the prices would be lower than they are now. It should be regulated like alcohol. Going to a headshop or something to buy cannabis would be great if you didn't want to grow your own. What's so wrong with that? Not only that, but quality control is also ensured. You don't have to worry about smoking moldy bud, or someone spraying it with salt or sugar, or something. And if you do smoke moldy bud, you would then have the option of filing a lawsuit against the people who were selling it. Can you do that now? Hell no.

Like I said, with the nature of the black market, prices tend to inflate hundreds, if not thousands of times more. So if it was legalized, and taxed heavily, I think we would still be able to get it for cheaper than we do now. Maybe something like the system in Holland should be implemented. Impose a limit per day, per customer... like 5 grams. That isn't bad, either, because you could of course still go to more "coffee shops" and buy another 5g, and so on. Really, legalizing it would totally help our economy... there's no arguing that. If you don't like the tax, grow your own, because in my idea, you wouldn't be taxed on that... just commercial sales.

in all honesty, id rather just see all of us buying from our dealers, or taking from our plants, lets not let the government take away another great thing we have ( even though its illegal) :jointsmile:

I just wish it was like in india were the shit grows wild all over the place
ITS JUST ANOTHER DAMN PLANT!!!
i saw a picture in hightimes mag where there was a row of corn a row of cannabis and a row of tomatoes all in the same garden together
just as the cannabis was another plant in the garden
That's what it should be like here...

If only we could all grow in peace. It would do so much. Why are we the only ones that understand this? One day I hope. One day.

I agree with you, Mfgr. You make a lot of valid points.

I personally don't feel our Government and taxation of cannabis is an issue. If cannabis was legalized and decrimalized it would prevent alot of crimes. Having a Black Market is bad in itself. Leaving our beloved herb in the hands of true criminals is not the solution we need. Yes, I also believe that cannabis should be sold in shops like Amsterdam. Amsterdam is an excellent example to follow. For one, the prices would drop. How ridiculous is it to pay $20 for one gram of "haze"? In Amsterdam, you can buy 3 grams of White Widow for about 16-20 Euros, max. Don't want to pay the taxes for buying it, grow your own. You should be legally allowed to grow five plants for personal use. With today's modern methods of growing, you can easily produce enough cannabis with five plants to support you until the following harvest. It's not illegal in the US to grow tobacco. I'm not sure where you got that bit of erroneous information. If you are growing tobacco commercially, you will need a permit. There's no taxation on growing tobacco, just the selling of it. This should extend to cannabis as well. Legalizing cannabis would allow us to produce an unaltered product. Think of the advances in cannabis breeding/genetics we'd be able to make. I'm not saying legalizing cannabis would make the World a better place, but it would make a definite impact on us and our environment.

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Why would the government be growing/selling it? Their job isn't to do that, that's not what our tax dollars are meant to go towards lol.

Let the free market take care of it, I say bring on the mass corporations producing millions of pounds of high quality bud a day. We'd be seeing ounces for $50 :D In a free market there would constantly be competition, if the large corporations started spraying their bud down with chemicals like they do tobacco, you could buy from other companies that don't do it, or if you are a true anti-corporate person, grow your own.

If growing for personal use was unrestricted, the overall quality of bud being grown and sold would increase. The government can't control the purchase and sale of cannabis now when it is illegal to grow, what makes you think they could control the purchase and sale of cannabis when everyone with a mind for dealing could start growing their own?