Dealing With Ignorance

Just now I read somones personal comment on YouTube, the thing that's on their profile everyone reads.

It read:

Western civilization ROCKS - the Middle East is backwards and SUCKS - Islam is EVIL and needs to be destroyed!!!


Now, I've learned gradually to accept stupidity, and ignorance, but I am really having trouble when I read somthing like this. How can somone be filled with so much blind hate? He has a right to think whatever bullshit he likes, but how do we have a world that would allow people to develop mindsets like this?

I live in London and on the way home today saw a 13 year old boy (or he looked it) screaming in the face of an old man for no apparnt reason. I grabbed him and told him to back off, asking why he was doing it, and he pulled a knife on me and spat at me (but thankfully missed). He was shaking like a leaf. I asked "Kid what the hell are you doing man, just be cool c'mon" when he just said "Fuck you" and ran off...

I am seriously have a difficult time accepting the world right now. On one level I am sort of impartial to all I see on a "stuff is happening" level. It's got me good at switching off when bosses/teachers/cock ends are having a go at me for no reason, or even dealing with some dark times/events, but it's hard for me to understand why anyone would seek to increase suffering in this world, be it real or illusion...

If anyone could offer some words of wisdom or advice I'd appreciate it greatly. I'm abit upset.

-Rob

This is why pot smoking should be mandatory in all religions.Just calm this shit down and mind your own business.

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Originally Posted by killerweed420

This is why pot smoking should be mandatory in all religions.Just calm this shit down and mind your own business.

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AMEN, bro. Im with you. :thumbsup::rastasmoke::jointsmile::stoned::rasta:

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Originally Posted by Iambreathingin

Just now I read somones personal comment on YouTube, the thing that's on their profile everyone reads.

It read:

Western civilization ROCKS - the Middle East is backwards and SUCKS - Islam is EVIL and needs to be destroyed!!!


Now, I've learned gradually to accept stupidity, and ignorance, but I am really having trouble when I read somthing like this. How can somone be filled with so much blind hate? He has a right to think whatever bullshit he likes, but how do we have a world that would allow people to develop mindsets like this?

I live in London and on the way home today saw a 13 year old boy (or he looked it) screaming in the face of an old man for no apparnt reason. I grabbed him and told him to back off, asking why he was doing it, and he pulled a knife on me and spat at me (but thankfully missed). He was shaking like a leaf. I asked "Kid what the hell are you doing man, just be cool c'mon" when he just said "Fuck you" and ran off...

I am seriously have a difficult time accepting the world right now. On one level I am sort of impartial to all I see on a "stuff is happening" level. It's got me good at switching off when bosses/teachers/cock ends are having a go at me for no reason, or even dealing with some dark times/events, but it's hard for me to understand why anyone would seek to increase suffering in this world, be it real or illusion...

If anyone could offer some words of wisdom or advice I'd appreciate it greatly. I'm abit upset.

-Rob

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this has nothing to do with islam, but your story
about the 13 year old boy reminded of somthing really wired that

happened to me 2 days ago. I was going into 711 to buy some milk, and as I was about to enter the door these two young kids

were walking out. One was a boy about 12 and the other was a girl
mabey a year are two older, the boy turned around and looked at
me with a very EVIL look so evil and strange it made me take a turn around look, and when I looked at him he started barking and

growling at me, it was very STRANGE and to be honest it creeped
me out, its one of thoses things were you had to be there to really
understand, now Iam a big guy and have been in a lot of ruff places in my life, I used to be a biker back in the day, and Ive been in hard core prisons, but this kid was not just simply being a kid, there was somthing going on like he was possed by some kind

of evil spirt, I just stood there and looked at him wondering wtf and then the girl grabed him and looked at me and said "its ok just go into the store sir I can handel him" so I walked away but I wish

I could have tooken his picture because I know nobody was going
to belive me, Iam just glad I was not stoined, I think I would have
tweeked out. anyway I just thought I would tell you even tho it has nothing to do with this thread. ok Iam sorry you can go back
to the subject at hand now:.

It is so stupid! Judaism, Christianity and Islam all spring from the same source- Abraham, the patriarch. I imagine that many of you don't realize that Jesus has a place in Islam- not as the "Son of God", but as an honored prophet. They even have a few stories about him that have been "lost" to Christianity. They are easily found. Here's WIKI on the subject. Islamic view of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It is like the left hand fighting the right! Abraham must be rolling in his grave! All of his "children" fighting amongst themselves! All claiming that "Father" loves them best! All claiming that there is only one way to express their love. Are they so unsure in their beliefs that they must stamp out any possible rival to their way of thinking? Someone who is confident in their beliefs, lives them and shows the way by example.

The secret to peace is finding things you can agree on and focus on them! The differences are usually much smaller than the similarities. We all laugh, love and cry. We are all human and kin.

Cannabis is our Tree of life and peace! Ya know, it's hard to stay mad at a man (or woman) who rolls and passes you a fattie! :jointsmile: Peace be with you all- Granny :hippy: ( a happy Wiccan)

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Originally Posted by jdmarcus59

this has nothing to do with islam, but your story
about the 13 year old boy reminded of somthing really wired that

happened to me 2 days ago. I was going into 711 to buy some milk, and as I was about to enter the door these two young kids

were walking out. One was a boy about 12 and the other was a girl
mabey a year are two older, the boy turned around and looked at
me with a very EVIL look so evil and strange it made me take a turn around look, and when I looked at him he started barking and

growling at me, it was very STRANGE and to be honest it creeped
me out, its one of thoses things were you had to be there to really
understand, now Iam a big guy and have been in a lot of ruff places in my life, I used to be a biker back in the day, and Ive been in hard core prisons, but this kid was not just simply being a kid, there was somthing going on like he was possed by some kind

of evil spirt, I just stood there and looked at him wondering wtf and then the girl grabed him and looked at me and said "its ok just go into the store sir I can handel him" so I walked away but I wish

I could have tooken his picture because I know nobody was going
to belive me, Iam just glad I was not stoined, I think I would have
tweeked out. anyway I just thought I would tell you even tho it has nothing to do with this thread. ok Iam sorry you can go back
to the subject at hand now:.

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I've had a similar experience with younger kids... I was just screwing around, shooting some hoops with some friends at the park by my place a while ago and some little kid who couldn't be older than 12 came up and asked us to get off the court. I started laughing because of how forceful the kid sounded and told him to get some manners. Kid pulls up his shirt and theres a glock in his waistband.

Sometimes it scares me what kids are capable of these days...

hope i'm not threadjacking though...just thought i'd share that

lankan lion, i read that shit man thats funny. you cant always be that funny, black dude. or this universe would implode you talking bout one of situations with kids , they dont see your mind do they, these days. at all how you'd think. and your already thinking about how you saw men when u was 12 but now you aint got the mind to act

London's getting worse and worse. Same with ignorant people bashing islam and muslims.

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Originally Posted by Lankan Lion

I've had a similar experience with younger kids... I was just screwing around, shooting some hoops with some friends at the park by my place a while ago and some little kid who couldn't be older than 12 came up and asked us to get off the court. I started laughing because of how forceful the kid sounded and told him to get some manners. Kid pulls up his shirt and theres a glock in his waistband.

Sometimes it scares me what kids are capable of these days...

hope i'm not threadjacking though...just thought i'd share that

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Chalk that up to a perk of the Young Offenders Act which pretty much guarantees children can do whatever they want and not be held accountable.

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Some of these are actually scary thoughts! That today's society is so blind. Our government is corrupt, our schools are dummying themselves to make sure no feels left out and everyone is "on the same level," kids these days have no respect for their elders, history, or have any manners. They have no grasp of the world today. Who do you blame? Parents? I know that if I did something wrong as a kid I sure had my ass whipped. But now, we can't do that. . I know there are limits but, parents should be able to spank their kids to teach them a thing or two. Just look at the youth of today and the youth of the past: 50s, 60s, and 70s. See a difference? Trust me, when I have kids there will definitely be discipline, I'm not taking the liberal approach.

:thumbsup:I know if I was ever to be elected president. I would, bring the troops home. Take the self involved government officials out of power one example the government in NYC whom are trying to ban the words Bitch, Ho, and the *N word. I don't use the words but if someone wanted to I think they have the right to, same as any other word out there. Thats what FREEDOM OF SPEECH is for. As well as all the other rights that were given to the people I would make sure as long as I was in power they would remain their rights. I would definitely let people have more of a decision about the laws that govern where we all live. And, last but definitely not least MAKE WEED LEGAL! ! ! Damn, is it that hard to grasp? If the damn government would take their heads out of their asses and smell the ganja they would see how much money they would save buy just letting the world be a happier place. All they would have to do is just take it, sell it, tax it. Like cigs then they could take all the savings and put it into education and educate our youth so we don't end up in a world like the movie IDIOCRACY.
Thats all for me. . .
S.:D

Fantastic, I hear some ten year olds stoned a man to death while his son watched. I guess that's what he gets for trying to play cricket with his family in a local park.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE

There's a difference between a christian and christianity. Christianity is a religion but true christians are:

"built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

"God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;"

God doesn't need man to build a house (church) of stones for him to dwell. We are the temple of the living God. If a church was really the house of God, how would we know which one is really his house?

"Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ."

Unfortunately, christians are often associated with false relgions even though there are christians who feel that all religions are FALSE!

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Originally Posted by surfinNtokin

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Some of these are actually scary thoughts! That today's society is so blind. Our government is corrupt, our schools are dummying themselves to make sure no feels left out and everyone is "on the same level," kids these days have no respect for their elders, history, or have any manners. They have no grasp of the world today. Who do you blame? Parents? I know that if I did something wrong as a kid I sure had my ass whipped. But now, we can't do that. . I know there are limits but, parents should be able to spank their kids to teach them a thing or two. Just look at the youth of today and the youth of the past: 50s, 60s, and 70s. See a difference? Trust me, when I have kids there will definitely be discipline, I'm not taking the liberal approach.

:thumbsup:I know if I was ever to be elected president. I would, bring the troops home. Take the self involved government officials out of power one example the government in NYC whom are trying to ban the words Bitch, Ho, and the *N word. I don't use the words but if someone wanted to I think they have the right to, same as any other word out there. Thats what FREEDOM OF SPEECH is for. As well as all the other rights that were given to the people I would make sure as long as I was in power they would remain their rights. I would definitely let people have more of a decision about the laws that govern where we all live. And, last but definitely not least MAKE WEED LEGAL! ! ! Damn, is it that hard to grasp? If the damn government would take their heads out of their asses and smell the ganja they would see how much money they would save buy just letting the world be a happier place. All they would have to do is just take it, sell it, tax it. Like cigs then they could take all the savings and put it into education and educate our youth so we don't end up in a world like the movie IDIOCRACY.
Thats all for me. . .
S.:D

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can you imange how much money the goverment would make
if the sold weed like they sell booze?millions and millionsof dollers
and just think how they could use that money to for the good of are country, I dont think we would have all these money promblems that are goverment says we are having. I mean why wasit all this money just to try to stop people from buying and selling, cause it ant ever going to happen people well always buy and sell weed, why fight a war you cant win? it just dont make any sence, yea I know this is nothing new, but sometimes it just boggels my mind.:jointsmile:

crazy crazy crazy thats why we have to carry firearms with us becouse these kid will do anything nowadays:(

One of the gangs responsible for a recent stabbing call themselves "Muslim boyz", and another are christians who go around beating pu muslims, so don't go telling me religious foundations is what we need.

Those people don't reflect anything about the religious philosophies, they are not true muslims or christians.

But they still find motivation and excuses for their crimes in religion. Perhaps they would find it elsewhere, or perhaps not. Misguided religious teachings can be the one thing that pushes a good person to do a bad thing.

Who is to say that their perception of the religion is false, and any "good" persons is right? The obscure nature of holy texts, not to mention what's lost over time and through translation is dangerous.

personally i think that people who wanna go round fucking people up and causing shit should be allowed to, on an island somewhere away from normal society. thats fine you wanna be a hardass, no worries. well heres your ak and heres a 9mm now join the other 20,00 psycopaths and get on the boat. yup just sign here. they all have. theres no laws and no coming back, ok? go on get stuck in.

that way he rest of society could get on with itself.

i think the issue with kids these days is a reduce in discipline and authority that schools have due to the fear of phedophillia and liberalism and the meloncoly and apathy parents have towards the kids they had when they where far to young. im not saying that having kids young is bad thing, but how can you teach a child to be responsable when your still a kid yourself. i have read several times that a males brain is not fully matured till his is around 25 so up untill this ages really we (as males ) should be learning, trying new things and seeing the world.

i think alot of children have anger issues these days and have been failed by the state and education. i blieve in equal oppertunity, but some children seem to squaller these time and time again. its gotta be hard not having an outlet, but they can't see the bigger picture tha if you want a better future you have to build it yourself.

the thing is though i see and have know people triumph even with daunting situations. a close friend of mine when he was 16 took legal responsability of his younger brother and sister cus his mum was a suicidal alcoholic. he managed the finances, worked his ass off and studied, he got into the top economics school outside of london and has just got a job in london managing hedge funds starting on 38k ( 76$k in dollars) with an unlimited bonus, on average he said hell get from 80 - 250 K for that. theres no reason for these kids to see no future. they just gotta think. but i think alot of em can't they just reproduce adn so we go round and round.

i think in britian it is a travesty the way the personal defense law stands. cus if a burglar broke into my house and i killed him with my katana, i would go to jail. it seems in this day and age the innocent and upstanding citizens have no power.

so im arming myself, and im prepared, cus when anarchy comes, im gonna make heads roll.

but i hope it doesn't

cus i like peace

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Originally Posted by Iambreathingin

Just now I read somones personal comment on YouTube, the thing that's on their profile everyone reads.

It read:

Western civilization ROCKS - the Middle East is backwards and SUCKS - Islam is EVIL and needs to be destroyed!!!


Now, I've learned gradually to accept stupidity, and ignorance, but I am really having trouble when I read somthing like this. How can somone be filled with so much blind hate? He has a right to think whatever bullshit he likes, but how do we have a world that would allow people to develop mindsets like this?

I live in London and on the way home today saw a 13 year old boy (or he looked it) screaming in the face of an old man for no apparnt reason. I grabbed him and told him to back off, asking why he was doing it, and he pulled a knife on me and spat at me (but thankfully missed). He was shaking like a leaf. I asked "Kid what the hell are you doing man, just be cool c'mon" when he just said "Fuck you" and ran off...

I am seriously have a difficult time accepting the world right now. On one level I am sort of impartial to all I see on a "stuff is happening" level. It's got me good at switching off when bosses/teachers/cock ends are having a go at me for no reason, or even dealing with some dark times/events, but it's hard for me to understand why anyone would seek to increase suffering in this world, be it real or illusion...

If anyone could offer some words of wisdom or advice I'd appreciate it greatly. I'm abit upset.

-Rob

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The reason this person has this view is because he/she has listened to too much of the bullshit on the media. He's been brainwashed, simple as that. We're all the way on the other side of the world from Islamic nations. Really, the only information we have on them in the mainstream media are the lies and propaganda, used to support the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. This is the kind of propaganda that is used to inflict fear and subsequently hate on certain people. This person has never done his/her research on the subject, and has only listened to what the government and media has to say.

The idea is to ignore this, or if you can't ignore it, take it upon yourself to educate them about it. People need to realize that our news and media is not a good source for valid information. Most of it is filled with propaganda to sway your opinion in the favor of whoever is trying to convey the message. Remember, the media is controlled by only a handful of people. It's pretty much all propaganda, and it has even reached our movies and television shows. The idea is to take whatever is said with a grain of salt. To get real information you need to dig deeply, and you should use the Internet to do that. While you shouldn't believe everything on the Internet either, there is valid information.

Like I said, to deal with ignorance you need to snap the person out of the ignorance. Open them up. These people are usually very narrow-minded, and think they know what's going on in the world, but actually have no idea. You don't want to try and tell them they're ignorant, though... because the denial of one's ignorance is part of ignorance.

You talk about the media asif the organized church or construction of the bible is not corrupt atall. the media brain washes, but so do religious institution.

I have learnt since creating this post (and not through the replies, tho' they were helpful) that to deal with those I consdier ignorant is nothnigm ore than to accept them. They and their own existance is as relevant as my own, even if I feel utterly convited to my immediate existance.

Acceptance is the key. My key atleast, the journey of self discovery is differn't for us all, tho' what we share is that we are all on it.

There are still questions that remain.... these 10 an 12 year old kids that are wandering around, carrying guns, and just being totally out of control.....

WHERE ARE THEIR PARENTS??????????

WTF ARE THEIR PARENTS DOING?????

*NOBODY* can convince me that Mommy or Daddy is going to buy a 10 year old kid a Glock!!!

WTF is that kids parents gonna do when somebody takes that Glock away from him, and USES IT ON HIM???

Maybe its time to go back to holding the parents responsible for their childrens actions.

I dunno.......

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Originally Posted by Iambreathingin

You talk about the media asif the organized church or construction of the bible is not corrupt atall. the media brain washes, but so do religious institution.

I have learnt since creating this post (and not through the replies, tho' they were helpful) that to deal with those I consdier ignorant is nothnigm ore than to accept them. They and their own existance is as relevant as my own, even if I feel utterly convited to my immediate existance.

Acceptance is the key. My key atleast, the journey of self discovery is differn't for us all, tho' what we share is that we are all on it.

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I didn't mean to imply that religion isn't corrupt - of course it is. But why accept them? These ignorant people are only aiding in keeping the status quo of our messed up, ignorant world. Release people from the ignorance! Don't turn your back on it.