Well Im not feeling philosophical, so who is your favorite philosopher. Mine would have to be Socrates. Cause I loved bill and ted
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Well Im not feeling philosophical, so who is your favorite philosopher. Mine would have to be Socrates. Cause I loved bill and ted
I dont think i know any lol.
myself, when im drinking. nothing like a little rolling rock induced enlightenment.
/\ That's funny, same with me. My friends and I get pretty deep and philosophical when we drink.
everyone can say and plato and socrates cause they founded the basis for the philosophers for years to come... however from what i remember from philosophy last semester... the classes in which we discussed kant,kierkegard, and hegel left me wandering out of the class going "whoa" everytime... i had a great professor
nietzche also proposes some very interesting ideas, however i still dont think i fully understand his philosopy... i want to read a few of his books at some point but i havent had time recently
Although he was not a philosopher, i think don Juan Matus would be my favourite one. His teachings have a very deep wisdom, greater than any other philosopher i did read (several ones, btw)... for me he is almost comparable to the King Solomon, who was not a philosopher either, and yet was one of the wisest men that lived.
Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Descartes, Sartre, Peter Singer, Kant, Locke.
BERKELEY stands to be my favourite.
John Stewart Mill
Lol Berkeley and his Idealism, he certainly is quite a character.
ayn rand
Ancient ~ Epicurus
Modern ~ Marx
Living ~ Habermas
and lots and lots of others but those 3 stand out from the crowd for me.
Does Carl Sagan count?
Anyone interested in philosophy should check out Ayn Rand, founder of Objectivism.
Socrates. Nietzche...although, I agree he is hard to understand.
A certain homeless guy at my nearest train station. He's always there trying to pinpont the single moment where his life went wrong. If you actually talk to him long enough (I tend to get chatty when I am intoxicated), he's not as crazy as you'd think he'd be. Kinda scary, cause I've definitely been in related situations or made similar choices.
Carl Sagan is the shiz.
Doug Stanhope is my favorite Philosopher:jointsmile:
1) Siddhartha Gautama
2) Miyamoto Musashi
3) HH, the Dalai Lama
4) Thich Nhat Hanh
5) Lao Tzu
Many more, but too tired to list... :thumbsup:
I know of some but I've not read much or even any of their work. Anyone who questions what they are told as fact is a philosopher to me.
[align=left]haha He is fucking funny isn't he? saw him at Detroit Bar last month, but the bar owners wouldn't let him smoke grits. Kind of like porn with no money shot. But he was funny, doin' new shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by killerweed420
My favorite idea spinner for this second would be
Rene Schwaller De Lubicz.
Check out Nature Word or Symbol and the Symbolic. Egyptian
based ideas that I found pretty darn interesting!
Those bookworms in the forum may want to tackle Temple of Man . You may be able to pick one up for 120.00 or so. 1000
pages of Schwaller's findings after spending 15 years living in
the Temple of Luxor in Egypt.
He decided to go to the source and investigate for himself rather than sit back in europe reading books on the subject.
Crazy Fucker, I love his shit, not just Archeological but all-encompassing.[/align]
I really enjoy camus and his idea that the only question in life is whether or not to kill yourself. His ideas and reasoning are really really interesting and he has probably made me think more than other philosophers out there.
There are many more philosophers I like, such as Spinoza, Foucault, and Socrates, but there are also some I don't like and find boring, like Locke.
nietzsche.
he's been the foundation for so many artists and writers for a reason.
sartre,kant,emerson..all good stuff as well.
Richard Dawkins :stoned:
Albert Camus.
I think I'll just go and change my sig to one of his quotes, I have used it on here before but it will always be relevant.
NCM
Max Brooks
Pascal, Kahlil Gibran. Philosophers or thinkers?
I normally tell people my favourites are Immanuel Kant and Friedrich Nietzsche. However, I'm also a pretty big fan of Descartes and the SPA threesome.
Hell, anyone who makes an interesting point could be on my list of favourites ;)
EDIT: Almost forgot about Bertrand Russel, he's great.
There are only a couple whom I study and endorse: Aristotle and Ayn Rand are the only people who acknowledge reason as the only tool to discover knowledge.
I am a new Intellectual, so far Ive gathered:
Kant was anti reason and held mysticsm as an absolute.
Nietzche, although not an altruist, thought other should be sacrificed to oneself.
Plato - complete mystic and believed any form of knowledge and success was not earned but given by God.
Ayn Rand philosophy, although completely thought of on her own, was influenced by Aristotle. Reason being the only absolute. "The philosophy for living on Earth"
Hmm gotta say
Cogito, ergo, sum- Descartes
The genius who lived in a cave... my hero?
Anyway, a genius.
Carl Sagan is the shit. That's for sure. I'm definitely not a huge fan of any of the objectivist stuff, especially her support of capitalism and homophobia (either underlying or blatant). Simone de Beauvoir is amazing, Jean Paul Sartre, Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida, Bertrand Russell...
Oh, and Plato was a douchebag. "Justice" isn't very just....
hell yes i'll choke to that. my favorite novelist too.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyGuyOU
whoops i just realized i've already posted on this thread....
i'll go have another..
epicurus, plato, bertrand russell, daniell dennett
Ayn Rand was close to getting it right but ends up falling flat on her face. There are tons of objective truths. Relativism is utter horseshit. Jesus being the son of God is not "your truth", it is a claim about reality which is either true or untrue. Both of these possibilities have huge implications on our world. If it's true, Billions on this Earth will have the misfortune of worshipping the wrong God, or failing to worship a god. If it is untrue, Billions(around Two) of people on this planet are collectively delusional, and waste much of their lives on superstition, while impeding scientific progress(Without the Christians, George Bush's two elections become absolutely impossible to win. Make that any republican. Well.. make that any Democrat too, but my point is not to illustrate that Christians are necessary to elect our world leader. It is impossible anyway to get elected while showing some kind of doubt regarding a Heaven or Hell in this country.).
Reason is only one relatively superficial source of knowledge than can only explain the empirical world. That's why Ayn Rand and so forth always irritated me with their shallow arrogance.
I dig:
Emerson--Transcendentalism always sat very well with me. Spiritual, but not in an organized doctrinaire manner...very nice
Nietzsche--renounced the Judeo-Christian ethic and the stupdity of egalitarianism
Kant--acknowledged that some things are beyond reason and require a bit of a leap
Rousseau--huge influence on the enlightenment and on Romanticism; created some new ideals, exposed tyranny
I have to say Karl Marxs, the man who came up with the greatest philosophy, communism the idea of everyone sharing everything and working for the greater good of the people, not of the rich and the elite.
Marx, for all of his bluster and gusto was a shitty communist, and a backwards thinker. He had decided that communism was a solution and then set about finding a problem for it to solve. And the idea of being forced to share something that you yourself have earned, is tantamount to legalized theft. Marx never had a job which forced him to break a sweat, or anything close to the jobs held by the proletariat, in Marx we see not a brilliant socio economic philosopher, just an inspired upper middle class prussian who feels guilty.
Socialism is superior to communism, because of it's moderation and adaptability.
David Hume, Immanuel Kant, Spinoza, and Hegel are all main philosophical men.
Nietzsche, Ingersoll, Gautama, Sagan
Bob Marley "One Love" :hippy:
socrates,
einstein,
karl marx,
and myself lol
Favorites:
1. Friedrich Nietzsche (who i find easy to understand, of course i've been reading Nietzsche since i was 12)
2. Michel Foucault (much harder to understand... too wordy, but still awesome)
3. Karl Marx (i find his diagnosis of Alienation to be very interesting)
The one's i hate:
1. Kant (the ultimately despicable slavery of a morality he taught makes me dislike him)
2. Plato (long winded and boring, not to mention weak)
3. Derrida (he mourned the walls he tore down)
LMAO, yeah thats why EVERYWHERE Communism has been there has Been MASS GENOCIDE of its own countrymen. Get a history book. The marines didnt storm normandy Beach for you to sit here and Praise Communism. Didnt You attend History class? Dont you know what the "red scare" was? LOL. You think The loss Of individual Rights Is something to Whim around? Fabion Socialism and Communism is nothing more than what it has always been. English lords raping the peasants. If your communism worked so well than Russia wouldnt be a 3 world country. Japan and china wouldnt execute and force 300 million people into civillan labor camps because they dont like how the Governments run. THERE GOVERNMENT OWNS THEM, We Here in the USA WE OWN OUR GOVERNMENT. We reconize the individual here. And all those vets who died in the world wars would shit on you if they were here to read your bullshit. So while you shit on our constitution and bills of rights, maybe you should think about a life of working in a textile factory for the rest of your life with no advancement. Maybe you should move out of AMERICA. THE LAND OF THE FREE!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Honkin22
CHINA SUPPLIED AND FUNDED NORTHERN VIETNAM. THEY WENT INTO lower free vietnam and killed any body they could find just because they dissented from Norther Vietnam. YOU DUMBSHIT LITTLE KIDS NO NOTHING OF HISTORY!!! MAO, LENIN, STALIN, HITLER, All EXECUTED MILLIONS OF PEOPLE!!!! COMMUNISM IS ANTI AMERICAN AND YOU NEED TO LEAVE THE COUNTRY BEFORE SOME VET KNOCKS YOU THE FUCK OUT. PEOPLE DIDNT DIE FOR YOUR FREEDOMS FOR YOU TO SIT HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE RAINBOW. Hey maybe you and snuggles from Downy can snuggle up with some poor christan farmers in lower loas and burma who everyone they know has had there arms hacked off to stubs because of the commie troops. You kids........