Im serious, this isn't a joke. I just smoked and I was thinking about it and I couldn't think of an answer. lol
Does anyone know?
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Im serious, this isn't a joke. I just smoked and I was thinking about it and I couldn't think of an answer. lol
Does anyone know?
You don't have to hear to think so I'm gonna take a wild guess and say they think just like a not deaf person thinks.
lol
this is like on the same level as do blind people dream...
and to tell you the truth i can't honestly answer either (assuming they were born deaf/blind)
a born blind person would have no idea what things really looked like or any type of visual refrence, and i suppose the same would be for deaf people that were born deaf.... they'd of never heard anything, much less our language...
maybe they just think 'visually' with signing?
i dunno..
and if that holds true, here's the real question... how would a blind deaf person think?
i dunon about yal, but i do think in language... with words... would be kinda hard if you never heard them to have an understanding of what they are or how they're pronounced or any of that.... don't ya think?
a deaf person thinks just like any other person, they just cant hear, a blind person thinks just like any other person they just can't see... come on people use your own heads.
btw slip.. blind people do dream, studies have shown that even congenitaly blind people have dreams in wich they feel, smell, taste, and experience things.
i know they dream lol... i don't debate that... they just woudln't be able to visually dream as we do... or most do atleast...Quote:
Originally Posted by ghosty
it would be diffrent (maybe even better... i prefer dreams where i can feel what's going on.... if you catch my drift ;))
and i am using my head, a baby doesn't come out with visual refrences nor refrences to our language as it would be heard, it's stuff they develope along the way of growing up.... with that being said, if there is no refrence how could it be done in the exact same way as we would? again, no point of refrence...
it's a mind boggling question to me...
wow, thanks for that wonderful input:thumbsup: lolQuote:
Originally Posted by cannabisis4for20
ghosty... i am using my head.... haha
...it doesn't seem like a stupid question to me.
i think and read in my own voice... for someone that was born deaf, what voice would they hear when they think or read?
if you all are right, deaf people think like everyone else......then why can't they speak right? what does hearing have to do with voice?
you kinda answered your own question :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Spoken Word
they 'can't speak right' (although i have heard some who you'd never know were deaf....) because they can' thear themselves talk...
well because it's hard for them to heaqr thier own voice, so to put the proper accents and intonations into every syllable that they cant quite hear is considerably difficult. I'm sure though that the internalizing thoughts would take the form of a voice that the person fabricated as an idea of what thier own voice would sound like
intresting idea/theory... i've never actually thought about that.... the brain is wired to precieve and accept sound... just because they had aproblem with their ears doesn't mean that part of the brain was just instantly erased..Quote:
Originally Posted by ghosty
o.0 so i suppose that theory would hold ground/merit.
i hope that's my answer because it's simple and it makes perfect sense..lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ghosty
how would that affect their reading?
When we think to ourselves it's almost as if we are narrating the situation and it's options to ourselves. But since a deaf person cannot hear then the question is, how do they narrate the situation to themselves or talk to themselves? Is that what you're saying OP?
As Slip stated, the prime example would be a blind and deaf person, how would they communicate with them self? Since they have will most probably not have any understanding of language.
yes. thanks for clearing it upQuote:
Originally Posted by Nation_1ne
theres gotta be a deaf person on this site who can give input?.... anyone? im only slightly hard of hearing so i cant give the full perspective
Ha, I'm glad I did. I was making sure that's what you meant. It's something I've thought about before. It's so hard to comprehend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spoken Word
i say thatd it would take the form of a fabricated voice, because if you think about, it babies are unable to speak, and at very young age dont quite register every sound that they hear, however hey are still able to put thoughts together (although not as complex) and react accordingly... i imagine it works something like that, plus as the person would grow and gain more intelligence the ability to internalize would increase, and they would be able to put thoughts together in a simillar intelligent way... also i imagine through attempts at speaking throughout the years, and the registration of the vibrations through hier bodies of the voice, would give a rough idea as to the qualities of the person's own voice, which i imagine would help them fabricae the internalized voice... hope that helps
thinking about it in the OP's view or ghosty's still is a 'mind-fuck' for me...
either way i think it's far beyond my comprehension power :p
^I hear ya. lol that's why I asked. I knew someone here would get a trip out of that question.
hmm this thread reminded me of another mind fuck question that me and some freinds sat stumped about for a good while after smoking once, returned to it when sober and still cant answer... i'll post it in a new thread
That would be like asking a colorblind person to tell you what blue looks like to them. Its blue, but not the blue we all know, so all they could tell you is that they see 'blue'Quote:
Originally Posted by ghosty
All a deaf person will be able to say is that they can think, i imagine it would be hard for them to get into much more detail than that.
my best 'girl' friend... was born deafth... and she cant speak really well... but if you have had speach impetiments... or been around pepole with speach impitiments, you can understand alot of what shes saying... some times its hard... but you can under stand alot of it...(someday i hope to relearn sing language though because her boyfriend is a little bit harder to understand sometimes.... but when im around them, ill just send them text messages.... when i cant understand them, or read their sign language... cause i under stand some signing.... but not all of it...)Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
dude.........
:stoned:
you dont have to have an inner monologue to be able to think
Example: Somebody throws a ball at your face, do you first think "oh shit im going to get smacked in the face, I should duck"?
It would be very interesting to know what it was like but evidently thinking is a process that doesn't require language
hearing becomes a blind mans primary sense...
all other senses enhanced...
Its actually pretty crazy to think about...
blind people can hear shit that normal people cant