STINKY I NEED HELP WHERE R U?

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do u remember this thread when u was telling me to wait and it will show sex soon enough??well it's been 6 and 1/2 weeks and still no show on sex not any of them and i fimmed half of them and left the other half the ones i fimmed are about half the size as the ones not but are alot more bushier so i ask if u would watch this thread as i will get sum pics to put up to show u the ones not fimmed are about 2 ft tall now and i think i need to put on 12/12 cycle real soon so what should i do about that??

They will double or triple in size in the first two or three weeks of flowering.So I would start flowering now, PEACE

are you using a 10x or greater mag glass? And do you have pics yet?

yes i used a mag glass and i see nothin all i see is new leaf sets coming out no balls no hairs im putting them into the 12/12 cycle as i can't wait any longer as sum are 2 1/2 ft tall and are getting to big

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

yes i used a mag glass and i see nothin all i see is new leaf sets coming out no balls no hairs im putting them into the 12/12 cycle as i can't wait any longer as sum are 2 1/2 ft tall and are getting to big

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go for it. Just keep an eye males show faster... good luck

how long does it take b4 males will drop there pollen? i mean say the male shows on the nite cycle or whenever for that matter how long do u have b4 the pollen is released?just want to know how close i need to watch them i check them 2 time a day as it is.

Mine started dropping pollin after a couple weeks.

In laymans terms, female = hairs, male = ball on a stick.

yea i know but iv'e had mine in veg for going on 7 weeks and no sign of neither????

spray the plant with ph water (or get some dutchmaster reverse (NOW))on the dark side till they show, it will limit the pollens movement. The reverse you need to use at the onset of 12/12. If your conditions are proper, males will be limited.

what do u mean by "it will limit the pollens movement"do u mean b4 they start to show?? cause i still se nothing no sacks no hairs just new leaf sets thats it.

while im here i would like to ask another ?? when people talk about no light leaks on the 12/12 dark cycle does it have to be 100% light proof reason i ask is i have my tri meter on the wall and the leds lit up the room pretty good so i covered it up but it still gives off alil dull glow from the sides and a lil from the duct fan cage, not direct light but a real low dulled light so to say if u walked in the room and closed the door it looks 100% dark and then when your eyes adjust to the dark thats when u can see the dull real low light, is that ok or still no good ???

You should not be able to see your hand in front of your face in the dark........or it's not dark enough.

Preflowers can take up to 8 weeks (or longer....) to show so you've discovered the reason alot of people don't wait for them......the plant gets too big.

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Originally Posted by sharingscaring

spray the plant with ph water (or get some dutchmaster reverse (NOW))on the dark side till they show, it will limit the pollens movement. The reverse you need to use at the onset of 12/12. If your conditions are proper, males will be limited.

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i did'nt have dm reverse but i did have sum dm penetrator it says it's ment for spraying so i added alil of the to the ph'd water and sprayed them down

The reverse:
Reverse by DutchMaster - 1 liter | Plant Nutrient Enhancers - General


PH Water is just till you are sure of sexes.(in case a sack breaks b4 you catch it)

Shoot some pics and let us see, and dont sweat it to much you'll make yourself go crazy.

Good Luck

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

You should not be able to see your hand in front of your face in the dark........or it's not dark enough.

Preflowers can take up to 8 weeks (or longer....) to show so you've discovered the reason alot of people don't wait for them......the plant gets too big.

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well the only reason i waited for sex to show is becauce stinky told me too. i asked about this 2 weeks ago, and sum told me to go 12/12 to show then switch back, and i saw the green guy vid where he took clones and found sex that way. but stinky told me to wait and not get in a hurry as going to 12/12 and back stresses the plant, and is not a good thing to do. so thats why i waited i mean i still have sum room but they are gettin a bit big so i went on to do 12/12.

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Originally Posted by sharingscaring

The reverse:
Reverse by DutchMaster - 1 liter | Plant Nutrient Enhancers - General


PH Water is just till you are sure of sexes.(in case a sack breaks b4 you catch it)

Shoot some pics and let us see, and dont sweat it to much you'll make yourself go crazy.

Good Luck

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lmao well i was all cool and collected until today lol when i fucked it all up lol

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

yea i know but iv'e had mine in veg for going on 7 weeks and no sign of neither????

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That's kinda weird from my experience, but I would take that as a good sign. I would suspect they will be female, since there are no signs of males.

OH yeah, just a thought. I know there is someplace that you can look up the flowering times and light schedules of different varieties of weed. I think I remember something about some kinds take like 160 days to flower. If yours is one of those, that might help explain it. Also, I know some kinds don't flower with anything more than 11 hours light. Something to think about since you said you were doing 12/12.

oh really nice to know, but it's weird cause some are bag seeds. and sum are ice,crystal,ww but those are 3 weeks younger than the bag seeds. so i took 1 of each of the ice,crystal,ww to make mothers out of them. but i need to know sex first so i just put them all on 12/12 the bag seeds are 2 1/2 ft tall and the good seeds are right at 1 1/2 ft. so i'll sex them all at the same time and pick the mothers out of the bunch and let the rest flower on.

Ok well here's another way to do it......Go to 12/12 lighting. When you can tell which are males....get rid of them. Don't switch back from 12/12...what would you want to do that for? You'll lose a good month of time. Once the males are gone just let the females finish. How hard is that?

That's the most people who don't wait for preflowers do....go to 12/12, wait and see which are males, then get rid of them.

Ps...I'd be pretty careful tossng that Reverse around on everything. The directions are very specific and I woud follow them if I were you. The DM penetrator doesn't do anything by itself.....it's to add to things.

Ok...cloning....gotcha. Then you're stuck.....Stinky was right....as always. :)

Southern African varieties often flower with as little as 8 or 9 hours of darkness/15 to 16 hours of light. Other 3oth latitude varieties including most indicas flower when the darkness cycle lasts a minimum of 9 to 10 hours. Jamaican and some Southeast Asian varieties will trigger at 11 hours of darkness and ripen during September or October. Equatorial varieties trigger at 12 hours or more of darkness.

Some interesting stuff here:
Marijuana Growers Handbook

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Originally Posted by palerider7777

while im here i would like to ask another ?? when people talk about no light leaks on the 12/12 dark cycle does it have to be 100% light proof reason i ask is i have my tri meter on the wall and the leds lit up the room pretty good so i covered it up but it still gives off alil dull glow from the sides and a lil from the duct fan cage, not direct light but a real low dulled light so to say if u walked in the room and closed the door it looks 100% dark and then when your eyes adjust to the dark thats when u can see the dull real low light, is that ok or still no good ???

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Sounds fine, don't need 100% dark. Maybe more like 87.658.

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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts

Sounds fine, don't need 100% dark. Maybe more like 87.658.

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k cool thanks alot for clearing that up.

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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts

Southern African varieties often flower with as little as 8 or 9 hours of darkness/15 to 16 hours of light. Other 3oth latitude varieties including most indicas flower when the darkness cycle lasts a minimum of 9 to 10 hours. Jamaican and some Southeast Asian varieties will trigger at 11 hours of darkness and ripen during September or October. Equatorial varieties trigger at 12 hours or more of darkness.

Some interesting stuff here:
Marijuana Growers Handbook

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added it to my fav list

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Originally Posted by Weedhound

Ok well here's another way to do it......Go to 12/12 lighting. When you can tell which are males....get rid of them. Don't switch back from 12/12...what would you want to do that for? You'll lose a good month of time. Once the males are gone just let the females finish. How hard is that?

That's the most people who don't wait for preflowers do....go to 12/12, wait and see which are males, then get rid of them.

Ps...I'd be pretty careful tossng that Reverse around on everything. The directions are very specific and I woud follow them if I were you. The DM penetrator doesn't do anything by itself.....it's to add to things.

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yea i was talking about when they were still to young to flower i wanted to know how soon i could tell without waiting for the 12/12 cycle

ok update after 3 days into flowering sum are startin to show so far i see 3 fems but i do have a ? theres ones i see that have the lil pods like the fems do but no hairs??and i noticed that say u look at where the node and the branch meet the ones that don't have hairs have a pod in the front of the node and one in the back of the node if u were looking at it str8 on u would see a lil round pod looking thing in the front then a new set of leafs and then a lil pod on the back side of that but the ones that do have hairs showing only has the one pod with hairs so is it safe to say that the ones that are starting to show 2 pods on 1 node would be male??there not clumped together but i do see 2 per node on the ones that don't have hairs i mean the one with hairs i can barely see the hairs so it's really small so would it be safe to wait a lil longer to see if hairs form or should i pluck the ones with 2 pods??

pod, no hairs, tiny stalk= male.
It's great that you got such a high % of females! Nice.
Pluck the ones wiht pods as soon as you see the little stalk under them. That's the SURE sign of a male.

oh p.s the ones that are showing hairs are 2 good seeds i bought 1 ice 1 crystal and then 1 bag seed and all the other ones that have the 2 pods are all bag seed

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Originally Posted by stinkyattic

pod, no hairs, tiny stalk= male.
It's great that you got such a high % of females! Nice.
Pluck the ones wiht pods as soon as you see the little stalk under them. That's the SURE sign of a male.

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thats the thing the stalks are real thick and has alot of growth could that just be from me fimming them? and u say "Pluck the ones wiht pods as soon as you see the little stalk under them" i don't see the stalk yet so it's safe to wait ti'll it gets a lil bigger?and is there a sign to look for b4 they get ready to drop there pollen??

they wont drop pollen until they pop up on that little stalk an start to flop over.
yeah thick stalks can be from fimming.

k thanks alot for the info

This too, may be strain dependent (I've only grown one strain so far), but what I had to do on my first grow was to wait, wait, wait. My males showed clusters of pods. Not just one. I identified the ones I thought were male and everyday I made comparisons. I seem to learn best by teaching myself, so thats what I was doing.
Anyhow......the point that told me they were definitely male was when I compared the tops. My girls had the cluster of new leaves shooting up into the new world, and the males had a very noticeable cluster of pods forming on the top.

Patience is a virtue bro, try not to get too freaked out. The plants' growing at a seemingly slow pace can be a good thing. For instance, you have a week~week and a half before you have to get nervous about pods popping "usually". Imagine if it all happened within the span of one day? That would be something to be nervous about.

So, just keep checkin em. You'll reach a point where your sure of the ones to cull:thumbsup:.

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Originally Posted by ProGroWannabe

This too, may be strain dependent (I've only grown one strain so far), but what I had to do on my first grow was to wait, wait, wait. My males showed clusters of pods. Not just one. I identified the ones I thought were male and everyday I made comparisons. I seem to learn best by teaching myself, so thats what I was doing.
Anyhow......the point that told me they were definitely male was when I compared the tops. My girls had the cluster of new leaves shooting up into the new world, and the males had a very noticeable cluster of pods forming on the top.

Patience is a virtue bro, try not to get too freaked out. The plants' growing at a seemingly slow pace can be a good thing. For instance, you have a week~week and a half before you have to get nervous about pods popping "usually". Imagine if it all happened within the span of one day? That would be something to be nervous about.

So, just keep checkin em. You'll reach a point where your sure of the ones to cull:thumbsup:.

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yea 10/4 i just like to know/learn as much as i can as fast as i can i sometimes get to into it but also i just wanted to make sure i did'nt let them get to far to fast and mess the crop up it's weird the bag seeds took alot longer to show sex than my "bought"seeds the ones that turned out fem so far were the bought seeds and there about 3 weeks younger than the bag seeds and also a 1ft shorter so i guess it just depends on the strain as u said