I'm sick of the bullshit.

I just don't understand why I can't find a man who will actually treat me right. When I'm in a relationship, I'm so goddamn ridiculously gracious and considerate and loving and caring and selfless and what the fuck do I get in return??? Zero appreciation, cheating, abuse, TYPICAL GUY BULL-FUCKING-SHIT. Ohh and don't get me started on all the damn double standards you motherfuckers have. You want to keep our asses on a leash but when we call YOU out on something, we're being controlling, we're not letting you have friends, we're not trusting you like we supposedly should be. Fuck men, I swear. I give all I have and I just end up getting fucked in the fucking ass. All a woman wants is respect, recognition, and honesty. IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK FOR?

Obviously it is.

Fuck women.

Now watch me get labeled a sexist.

Speaking of double standards....

Sorry: in all seriousness, yeah I know that sucks, and I feel for you. You must not be meeting the right kind of guy, and I know they can be hard to find....a lot of them can be absolute asses. Keep looking, love.

General statements are a little shakey cause not everyone is the same, but I know what you mean..i could rant about the female way but we need each other anyway so what the heck....it's always going to be a love, hate relationship.

but don't worry...You'll be fine. There are plenty of men out there and most of us were raised right, we just need to grow up. We are a lot simpler than you females. But it takes some time for us to get right. lol
you all are far from perfect.. and you strive for equality when, in my opinion, you are waaay more superior. generally speaking.

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Originally Posted by baisez le monde.

I'm so goddamn ridiculously gracious and considerate and loving and caring and selfless and what the fuck do I get in return??? Zero appreciation, cheating, abuse, TYPICAL GUY BULL-FUCKING-SHIT.

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Hmmm..well any dude that fucks a bull needs some serious help...

Na but really, just keep yer head up and move on with whatever your dealing with. Maybe don't put yourself out there too far until you HONESTLY know you can trust him, OR if you're having troubles trusting yourself, take some time to get to know yourself...I dunno I'm trying to help lol but that's all I gots.

Cast your line out again, I swear not every fish is a piranha. ;)

Go ahead and say 'fuck women'.. shit I agree with that too, some women can be just as vindictive and scandalous as any man out there. But it's nearly impossible to find a man out there who doesn't think solely with his fucking dick.

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Originally Posted by Its a Plant

Hmmm..well any dude that fucks a bull needs some serious help...

Na but really, just keep yer head up and move on with whatever your dealing with. Maybe don't put yourself out there too far until you HONESTLY know you can trust him, OR if you're having troubles trusting yourself, take some time to get to know yourself...I dunno I'm trying to help lol but that's all I gots.

Cast your line out again, I swear not every fish is a piranha. ;)

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Ahh I'm better now, you always cheer me up.

Now to completely numb the pain... :bong:

babydoll, I know what you mean..trust me! I've been through it all and back and still sorta am. It gets easier, but then it gets tougher..but then it gets easier. Lol, see the cycle? That's how it'll be until you find "that guy"..you know? Guys suck, for the most part..but eventually you'll find that rare specimen that doesn't completely suck and who will treat you with the respect and love you deserve..and you DO deserve it. You're young, and so are the guys you're dating (whether they be mentally immature or just immature due to age)..as you get older these boys will turn into men and realize they can't live life without a good women..and you'll be that women for some very lucky dude. am i making sense? just keep your chin up and don't give up completely but don't put up with their shit either 'cause you deserve a good MAN.

i think with my lungs not my dick anymore
lets go hiking
fuck everything else

You're a sweetheart BabyFace, thank you. Reassurance really helps. It just really feels like I'm never gonna find a mature man, they seem so non-existent. But I know it's not time to give up hope just yet.


I could use a good hike right now... there's nothing like invigorating exercise to get some stress out. Damn it someone take me hiking!

Just do like I did.Get a dog!!

Well not all men are the same (how you described) but most are well especially at the age of 16 - 20 ish then most of them start to mature, I think that maybe it might be because you show all the men you have been with that your basically soft, remember to play hard to get to make your man want you more, if you simply just give him all the love and affection and sex as soon as you get with him then hes just gonna think, ok mission over.

But obviously i could be wrong it could be the sort of guys you go for, think about it what type of guys do you go for do they all act or dress the same way? How old are the guys you normally go for? because it could have something to do with that

Well apart from that all i can say is theres definately someone out there for everybody, and you will find mr. right out there one day everyone always does, You have to go through some bastards, people you dont like to get to the one you love, plenty more fish in the sea, Dont give up searching Baisez x :).

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Originally Posted by baisez le monde.

impossible to find a man out there who doesn't think solely with his fucking dick.

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At least you get it, no man in the world wants women for love its all about how fast you can get them into bed. Any man that says that's a lie, is a fucking lair. And the sooner you find this out the sooner you will be happy. Stop spending all this time to find the perfect guy because in the end your going to get fucked over because hell all I want is pussy and I get laid and girls have to understand relationships are not desired and men are only after one thing. Life is about fun, and living life to the fullest not crying over some dick.

Learn to play the game and get some dick. :thumbsup:

Haha grow up.

There's two sides to this.


Today's women want equal pay, and also want guys that make more than they do.

They want guys that treat them nice, but who are extremely aggressive in their careers and dealings in other areas.

They want "sensitivity", but not too much or they won't respect him.

I could go on.



Despite what the feminist leaders say, you can't "have it all". Women, and men, have to make compromises. No exceptions.


I was single in the 60's, 70's, 80's and half of the nineties. I took very little bullshit, and would not settle for anyone that was wrong. I'm glad I waited.

Guys who put up with too much are contributing to the raw deal most American men are getting. ARE YOU ONE OF THEM?

Baissez, I'm sorry you're feeling like you're getting a raw deal, but it's true that this goes two ways--that women and men both can give others the shaft. It ain't a one-way street and it's important to me that we don't do man-bashing here just like we don't do women-bashing, either.

The last thing in the world that women or men alike often want to hear who're hooking up with partners who treat them badly--and it's the first question anyone who works with spouses/partners for whom this is a chronic, oingoing problem is compelled to ask, too--is "Who's making the choices to hook up with these folks?"

Sorry, I've worked for too many years in a crisis center not to know that's a dysfunctional tango that takes one person on one end to treat the other badly and, before that, a person who makes the choice to hook up with someone who'll treat him/her badly in the first place. When you can start looking at the initial choices you yourself make in that dance, that's when you'll be at the first step of being able to change the way that plays out in future relationships.

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Originally Posted by baisez le monde.

I just don't understand why I can't find a man who will actually treat me right. When I'm in a relationship, I'm so goddamn ridiculously gracious and considerate and loving and caring and selfless and what the fuck do I get in return??? Zero appreciation, cheating, abuse, TYPICAL GUY BULL-FUCKING-SHIT.

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Allow me to quote from the infinite wisdom of my favorite comedian, Adam Carolla, who is a genius (and saves me from typing):

ADAM: Not all guys are dogs. About 30% of guys are dogs; you just happen to hook up with those guys. A lot of you ladies--as a matter of fact, coincidentally, the ones who claim all guys are dogs--are NOT interested in the non-dog guys. I mean, letâ??s face it: guys are horny. I'm not saying they're not. But, just sort of picture the guys at your work, the guys you know, the guys you're friends with. The majority of them are sort of normal guys, good guys who would be happy to meet somebody that they were attracted to and commit to a relationship, treat women right. Women--not so interested in that dude. And, until you get interested in that dude, there's gonna be trouble.

all im gonna say about that is "if you act like a doormat, don't be surprised when people walk all over you."

I can't believe that you think all men are interested in is sex!!lol
Grow some weed and then men will like you for your bud too.

Maybe you should switch teams. Wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more!

We could debate this forever, but the fact is "piece of shit syndrome" knows no gender. The world is a wonderful place, its the people in it, that often suck!

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Originally Posted by baisez le monde.

I just don't understand why I can't find a man who will actually treat me right. When I'm in a relationship, I'm so goddamn ridiculously gracious and considerate and loving and caring and selfless and what the fuck do I get in return??? Zero appreciation, cheating, abuse, TYPICAL GUY BULL-FUCKING-SHIT. Ohh and don't get me started on all the damn double standards you motherfuckers have. You want to keep our asses on a leash but when we call YOU out on something, we're being controlling, we're not letting you have friends, we're not trusting you like we supposedly should be. Fuck men, I swear. I give all I have and I just end up getting fucked in the fucking ass. All a woman wants is respect, recognition, and honesty. IS THAT SO MUCH TO ASK FOR?

Obviously it is.

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Damn sorry your havin such a good time hope it works out but now that I got you on your thread I wanted to ask. Are you a porn star cause some one was sayin you were and Id like to catch that flick. I realy do hope your boy troubles work out a girl like you should not have the asshole problems, you seem nice, hot, and sweet.

are you really from el salvador?

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are you really from el salvador?

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I wondered that as well, cause i saw Salvador, the James Wood movie that Oliver Stone helmed, and i was scared shitless by South America for years.

The opposite sex.

Can't live with 'em, can't shoot 'em.

I can't say a lot of guys are like that, though I have found alot of them are asswipes in everything they do and say. If something turns rotten for me, I toss them out and thats that.

Just remember what makes great guys so wonderful is they are few and far between. If all guys were like that the great ones wouldn't be so special. Does that make sense?
There are really great guys out there. The jackholes are just practice for the real thing! They make you stronger by realizing what actions you wont tolerate in future relationships.
Reminds me of the saying " You've got to kiss a lot of toads before you find your handsome prince!" It is very true.
Sorry its not a lot of help,just my 2 cents. Hang in there girl! It does get better!

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are you really from el salvador?

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No vivo en El Salvador pero soy Salvadorena. Half at least.


And sorry for the assholey rant everyone. I've met a few truly good guys, for sure, but right now it just feels like I'm stuck in a damn doghouse. And whoever said something about accepting the "thinking with their dicks" fact and just getting some dick myself, that's what I've been doing. I must say sex is rather comforting. :D

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Originally Posted by Blindman0v0

I can't believe that you think all men are interested in is sex!!lol
Grow some weed and then men will like you for your bud too.

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sometimes i worry thats the only reason my bf is w. me ... i will have sex everyday and i also always have the best bud to smoke him up on. does he ever buy weed anymore? noooo
bastard

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Just do like I did.Get a dog!!

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Blindman0v0 speaks the truth. Dogs are great - they live to please you. Just don't make a mistake and get a cat, thinking it's the same thing. It's not. :mad:

The problem I have is that I meet great girls that I'm actually attracted to (and that means I like their personality - I'm rarely into a girl because of physical attraction) and they end up being already in an okay-or-better long-term relationship. It's like a god-damned carrot-on-a-stick relay race - I always want what I can't have.

And please, no smartasses saying "If they're not married it's open season!" I don't roll that way.

Lucky G, I have the same problem, and they are the ones who usually act as though they wouldn't mind a piece of me if they weren't already committed. The other women I like are the ones who either go for the same asshole in different bodies (Yeah, that's actually what turns them on even though they gripe about it), or to the actual same guy over and over again.
That Corrolla quote describes me pretty well... women just aren't attracted to me unless they have come to the self-realization of what that pattern really is, which most often means that they already met the right one or they are older than me... for some reason that's a cultural barrier I have trouble getting past.. I'm not into the whole cougar thing. :(

girls = viciousness

Yeah.. finding the right relationship can be a bitch. I met a girl that I REALLY liked, which surprised me because I wasnt even looking after my last girlfriend cheated on me. Anyways we started hanging out and talking.. I had never met anybody so perfect for me. Then she went back to her ex boyfriend and stopped calling me right before I moved halfway across the U.S. to live near her. Fuggit.. thats how shit rolls. I know god damn well that Im a good man, and an excellent catch relationship-wise. The only problem is.. Im not sure how many more times I can put myself on the line and trust another human being. The only person I am ever vulnerable to in any way is any female who is my significant other. As long as I dont have one, I am invulnerable. Might as well keep it like that. Maybe Ill get lucky and get drafted to Iraq :D that'll take the decision right the fuck out my hands!

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sometimes i worry thats the only reason my bf is w. me ... i will have sex everyday and i also always have the best bud to smoke him up on. does he ever buy weed anymore? noooo
bastard

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From what Ive just read it seems to me that you are perfect lol. Just kidding. Tell him to start buying the bud or no more hanky panky.

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Originally Posted by Gippie

You sound like me ranting about my ex xP
Trust me, you will find a guy who appreciates you, and it'll be the best feeling ever =]

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Just what I am saying.

i just have to ask... have you ever turned down a guy because he isn't 'hot'?

i've seen so many great men who know how to treat a woman right, but they get turned down simply because they don't fall into 'omg he's hot' catagorey...

also how long do you know said guys before dating them? alot of guys will act one way just to get with you, then they change to their real selves.... unless the guys pathetic if you've known them for years and he seems nice, he probably is.... the only real rememdy to the guys just trying to get in your pants is the waiting game... most fo the time if you wait long enough, they'll give up and move on to someone else...

well most of the time the (good guy that will love and take care of his woman)is right there in front of them. and they always seem to look past him on to the model looking (hot guy).u know the one that is the way she speaks above^^. or the jock or what ever but the one that is the best friend the one that help the girl out all the time the one that sees the girl for who she is the one thats mad about the girls. are the ones that get pushed to the side cause there not cool enough or hot enough for the girl..at the moment.

so the girl gets with the hot jock sweet talking guys the ones that are the lazy bum wife beatin type. and then the girl wonders why?why is it not working? and by the time the girl understands life and has grown up it's most of the time to late. well not to late but shes not pure anymore thats for sure. not that anyone is these days. but if two people really fell in love would u not want the other to be as pure as they should be.

u know what i mean then she goes looking for the guy she passed by long ago. for safety and all the things she needs well more or less settling for the guy.and when a guy gets his heart broken really good then he's never really the same as he once was. and the way he looks at love.and 9 time outta 10 the guy starts out good faithful loving honest and when that happens sum of that goes out the window.so bottom line girls quit picking losers and then bitchin about it and most of the time u know when a guy is a big douche bag. and yet u still try to be with him in hopes u can (change him).well that never is the case now is it.and u can't change anybody they have to want it themselfs so...

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At least you get it, no man in the world wants women for love its all about how fast you can get them into bed. Any man that says that's a lie, is a fucking lair.

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In that case I must not live in this world. Maybe that's how men act in your area, maybe that's how most guys act in general, but I'm 22 years old and a virgin because the only opportunities I've had for sex were shallow girls looking for a quick fuck. And right now I've found the girl of my dreams, going to ask her out this weekend, and after knowing her for 2 years I never tried to get into her pants, nor do I want to be with her because I'm craving a good boffing. I want her, quite simply, because she has the most wonderful personality in the world and understands me.

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In that case I must not live in this world. Maybe that's how men act in your area, maybe that's how most guys act in general, but I'm 22 years old and a virgin because the only opportunities I've had for sex were shallow girls looking for a quick fuck. And right now I've found the girl of my dreams, going to ask her out this weekend, and after knowing her for 2 years I never tried to get into her pants, nor do I want to be with her because I'm craving a good boffing. I want her, quite simply, because she has the most wonderful personality in the world and understands me.

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yeah i married my wife and have stayed with her for nearly 4 years now because i wanted to get her in bed and not cuz i loved her.... :p

Slipknot, Palerider, Gandalf, props to you guys I'm in the same boat. Come on ladies, look at who you pick for relationship material. Guys like us are getting shafted, but our shaft isn't getting anything. lol. Sorry I'm smashed out of my mind. But seriously, COME ON (BTW, there are plenty of girls that I would be interested in even if they're not hot or whatever, but even they are looking for rich models that ride bikes or whatever who are assholes... just look for that guy who you think "Yeah, but he's just a good friend and romance would kill the friendship." There's the pot of gold hon. Seriously.

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In that case I must not live in this world. Maybe that's how men act in your area, maybe that's how most guys act in general, but I'm 22 years old and a virgin because the only opportunities I've had for sex were shallow girls looking for a quick fuck. And right now I've found the girl of my dreams, going to ask her out this weekend, and after knowing her for 2 years I never tried to get into her pants, nor do I want to be with her because I'm craving a good boffing. I want her, quite simply, because she has the most wonderful personality in the world and understands me.

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Glad it works for you, just wait until you realize your with her for the rest of your life, or what if your not sexually compatible? Props on it working for you but for about 95% of males it doesn't. Call it shallow, childish, and living in high school but it is embedded in the male brain to reproduce and have many sexual partners for the growth of the species. Learn human nature buddy.