I hope he gets hard time.
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I hope he gets hard time.
O yeah, if you don't know he's a QB for the Atlanta Falcons and got caught for running a dog fighting ring. Apparently he killed lots of the dogs that didn't perform well be electrocution, drowning, hanging, and slamming them against concrete.
My bet is he's done...Next
Anyone that can harm animals like that is obviously an evil person.
i'm kinda split on the issue. one part of me believes in "innocent until proven guilty."
the other part of me, as a citizen and fan of atlanta for the past 20 years, has always hated Michael Vick's athletic inability. i have been saying for about 2 years now that we needed to deal him while we could still get something valuable for him, and that Matt Schaub would be a better leader and make the Falcons more of a legitimate playoff contender. now that all this crap has happened... i don't see us unfucking ourselves for the next 5-6 years...
and i have ABSOLUTELY NO sympathy for him because of the specific and the severity of the charges against him. assuming for a second that he is really guilty of the very detailed charges against him as a professional dog fighter, i hope he gets the maximum sentence.
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Originally Posted by jdub61
we're fucked, win, lose or draw. At leats we have the Braves coming back and the Thrashers are awesome, if only both teams can perform in the playoffs.
fuck thrashers. blackhawks will take the cup next season lmao (i wish). anyways i havnt heard about that but that sounds fucked up. I hate hearing about a dog dying. honestly when im watching tv and i see someone get killed its just like meh w/e. but when i see a dog die im like awww shiiiit thats gayyyy.
Yeah, I used to love Vick back in his VT days, but after the Falcons got him, i watched his talent become a novelty. Then i disliked him because he didn't produce an NFC Championship, let alone a Super Bowl. Now i hate his guts beacuse of what he did to animals, not just animals, dogs, the most loyal animal to man. Fuck him. and fuck you if u say its because of his race. its not, its because hes commited crimes against man and nature.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaGerbom
oh by the way, i love yer signature, gotta love Ben Harper!Quote:
Originally Posted by jaGerbom
i didnt hear that he smashed thme against cement, but i heard the other shit and that he also shot them, i think its really fucked up that somebody could do that to a dog
i've always wondered about how/why the falcons kept vick around all these years... i think it's because he's the face of A-T-L (peace up, a-town down), secretly i believe that ludacris has been funding vick's outrageous salary all these years because it would be disastrous for hip-hop to lose him
apparently they hung/shot/shocked the dogs that lost....
i say fuck 'em... unless it was some random person that reported it (just to be a dick) then he's most likely guilty of it... does anyone know how this was 'found out'? i mean if it's the result of an investagation he's pretty much guilty until proven innocent...
famous people are never exempt from real world charges... infact, they probably have a higher 'criminal' rate then just regular people do as they think they can buy their way out of it.....
dog fighting is a ruthless cruel thing to begin with... i hold no sympathy for them, or any animal fighters (cock fighters, horse fighters etc...) to me it's barbaric and disgusting... but so is bull riding IMO...
I read that micael vick bought the property but it was kept my his associate(or cousin) and the associate got in trouble for some weed....twice...and they searched the property and found that.....AND the weed.Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
i believe it, but it also could have been a rat or snitch, they investigated and struck at the right time....but there is new information about the horrbile dogfighting ring and will investigate even more so Michael Vick will most likely cop out.
Exactly... bull fighting is a freaking sport in many countries. horse racing is a sport in the U.S and the horses are whipped....and worse, people bet on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
and i'm sure people kill their horses...
greyhound racing, i know for a fact has a lot of underground, sketchy stuff in the kennels.
unfortunatly, animal abuse is ALL too common in many "sports", both legal and illegal.
it's just that he's a celebrity so everyone is shitting bricks.
I hate how so many people are basically saying Vick's guilty until proven innocent. The question is not whether or not dogfighting took place at the estate Vick owned (because even Vick has all but admitted that it did), it's whether or not he was aware of it and should therefore be held responsible.
The bottom line is that it's up to the court to decide, and to all of you pointing to the testimony from Vick's associates claiming he was heavily involved, isn't it also plausible that these associates fabricated the stories about Vick's involvement in an effort to lessen their potential jail time after they were caught running the dogfighting ring?
I mean, if you lived in a house that your superstar athlete cousin owned and rarely visited, it could most certainly be possible to get away with an endeavor like dogfighting (or growing marijuana, lets say) without him knowing; does that mean your superstar athlete cousin should be punished? To use a different situation to illustrate, suppose your parents went on vacation for a month and left you in charge of the house, and you decided to start a dogfighting ring without their knowledge, should they be held responsible?
In this country, we have courts to decide the answers to tough questions like these, so we should wait to hear what the court says about Michael Vick. More specifically, the NFL and the Falcons should wait for the court to decide on Vick before suspending or releasing him, although you can safely assume that Vick will definitely be getting paid until he gets found guilty, should it happen, because even this draconian new commissioner Goodell couldn't get away with suspending an accused player with no previous offenses before his case went to court.
Michael Vick has not committed any crimes. Apparently, by your definition of a crime, once you are accused of a crime you are automatically guilty. Luckily your definition does not match the one set forth by this country's government. Now, as far as it being about race, the thing about racism is that while most people would agree it exists in various forms and degrees, it's just about impossible to prove. Personally, I happen to think race has a lot to do the public's crucifixion of Michael Vick (as well as that of Barry Bonds, which is a whole other discussion altogether), but I can't truly prove it. However, I will say that I find it interesting to hear all these white conservative talking heads on television and radio practically calling for Vick to be lynched while simultaneously condoning hunting. I find it hard to see much of a difference morally between dogfighting and hunting, both are reprehensible in my opinion. Could it be that these talking heads find dogfighting reprehensible and hunting acceptable because the former is associated more with African-Americans, while the latter is associated more Caucasians. I think it has something to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TallCoolOne
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He was brought up on a federal indictment. He's innocent until proven guilty but he doesn't look too innocent. If these allegations are true, however, there's no way that Vick didn't know about it, he's accused of placing bets on the fights. The NFL told him not to come to training camp too.
I cant see any other reason for having 60+ plus dogs other than dogfighting. They need to hook the electrocution cables up to his ass and see how he likes it .What a asspipe.
R u kidding he's obvisciosly guilty. They've seen him at dog fights and all the stuff was at a house that was in his name. I used to like him but now i hate him i dont know how anyone could make 2 peacefull animals fight until they killed each other. and Fuck Clinton Portis for saying that the police should mind there own business and there was nothing wrong with dogfights fuck himQuote:
Originally Posted by jdub61
the evidence is stacked up against vick. that is why so many are presuming his guilt. and the fact that family on HIS property had the dogs. if vick was supplying the house for them to stay in, surely you could assume he supplied the funds to pay for them?