Weed Growers are "terrorists"...

California -- The nation's top anti-drug official said people need to overcome their "reefer blindness" and see that illicit marijuana gardens are a terrorist threat to the public's health and safety, as well as to the environment.

John P. Walters, President Bush's drug czar, said the people who plant and tend the gardens are terrorists who wouldn't hesitate to help other terrorists get into the country with the aim of causing mass casualties. Walters made the comments at a Thursday press conference that provided an update on the "Operation Alesia" marijuana-eradication effort.

"Don't buy drugs. They fund violence and terror," he said.

After touring gardens raided this week in Shasta County, Walters said the officers who are destroying the gardens are performing hard, dangerous work in rough terrain. He said growers have been known to have weapons, including assault rifles.

"These people are armed; they're dangerous," he said. He called them "violent criminal terrorists."

Walters, whose official title is director of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, said too many people write off marijuana as harmless. "We have kind of a reefer blindness,' " he said.

No arrests have been made so far in the four days of raids, the opening leg of what Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko has promised will be at least two straight weeks of daily raids.

He said suspects have been hard to find because their familiarity with their terrain makes it easy for them to flee quickly.

Although crews doing the raids are using Black Hawk and other helicopters to drop in on some of the gardens, Bosenko said they don't want to give the growers any warning of a raid.

"We try to move in under stealth," he said.

As of Thursday morning, Operation Alesia raids had resulted in the yanking of 68,237 young marijuana plants from public lands in Shasta County. Raids already have been conducted in Whiskeytown National Recreation Area, as well as on land managed by the U.S. Forest Service north of Lake Shasta and other public land near Manton.

The operation is being led by the sheriff's office and has involved 17 agencies, including the California National Guard and the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration. It's believed to be the largest campaign of its kind in the state, Bosenko said.

The operation is named after the last major battle between the Roman Empire and the Gauls in 52 B.C. That battle was won by the Romans.

With the blitz of marijuana gardens around Shasta County, Bosenko said officials hope to not only get rid of the pot, but also win back the land for the public that owns it.

"These organizations are destroying our lands and wildlife," he said.

Bernie Weingardt, regional forester for the Forest Service's Pacific Southwest Region, said the 28,000 acres believed to house illegal marijuana grows on national forest land throughout the state would cost more than $300 million to revive.

"These lands must be cleaned and restored," he said.

His estimate is based on a National Park Service study that found it costs $11,000 per acre to pull the plants, clear irrigation systems, reshape any terracing and replant native vegetation, said Mike Odle, Forest Service spokesman.

While Walters didn't give specific goals for Operation Alesia, he said anti-drug agencies aim to cripple the organized crime groups that he said are behind the marijuana cultivation.

"This business we intend to put into recession, depression and put its leaders into jail," Walters said.


I couldnt help but laugh when i read the first part about cultivators being terrorists. Second part about them pulling plants is a lil tear shedding cause i probally woulda ended up smokin some of those buds.

makes me wanna get a gun and shoot that fuck in the face, im sorry but thats just nuts even comparing a marijuana cultivator to full blown terrorism this guy needs to get slapped in the face and a bong shoved down his throat, i know im not giving a good image of a stoner but this just made me royally pissed -.-

kinda crazy.... $11,000 an acre to remove it. It's funny when you sit back and think it's just a naturally growing plant that was here before we were. sometimes I will look at my weed and just laugh cause people flip out about a stupid plant. SOMETHING THAT GROWS IN THE DIRT NATURALLY! I wish they wouldnt make it legal but decriminalize it everywhere. I kinda like the "hunt" to get my weed and seeing diffrent strains go through town at diffrent times ya know. Walking to the store on the corner and buying marijuana would be a bore for me and take half of the joy of smoking away...just my opinion

This shit is crazy. They want to call people who grow a plant a terrorist but as soon as we point fingers at our officials for lies, trying to scare the nation, and other things such as the missing Iraqi war funds we get called a terrorist by George Bush. I saw a piece on Fox News today on indoor growing operations and I was so pissed. They first said that this is dangerous to have in your neighborhood and also they said the weed grown indoors is far more powerful and even deadly. It just makes me mad on how some people feel about just a plant. If Fox News really wants to run a report on harmful substances being made why dont they go to our cigarette factories. They have proven to kill people and we also put all sorts of dangerous shit in those nowadays.

or the meth labs that blow up houses and smell up the air......
far more deadly then growing a plant

I dont know what your talking about, hunting for weed is never really fun. It would be nice to know exactly what your getting and what price and also the strain. Which is what can be done if it gets legalized and also made commercial.

nah man i think commercialization would ruin it. Somehow when it become commercialized is when it looses it's naturalness. Does that make sense. I dont want marlbro touching my weed man I dont want corporate america touching such a natural product. I want an old farmer to pick it cure it and put it in a bag just for me. I dont want it going through "treatments" and "cure factorys" and all this shit man. Hunting for weed in itself is not fun but, you know that feeling after you just scored? I dont want that taken away. I dont know how old you are but, depending on your age you may or may not understand.

I've never seen a pothead toting a gun..... nor have I ever seen someone who's baked with a violent bone in his/her body.

To call these people dangerous is the biggest joke I've ever heard. A baked stoner is about the least dangerous person on the planet. Unless you consider them eating you out of house and home dangerous...

Yeah it is just a plant, and it should be legal, but the fact of the matter is that marijuana is illegal (with some med execptions of course). With that said, keep in mind there are people who grow marijuana and sell it to make a profit because it is illegal (markup on the black market), and some of those people do carry assault rifles and will kill to eliminate threats to their profit.

So yeah, they do face possible threats. Some places are boobie trapped. And if they're going into a raid, they don't know whether it is trapped or not, or whether the people growing are armed and willing to fight or if they're peaceful growers just enjoying what God gave us.

I'm not trying to say I agree with them, most of what they say is crap, but keep in mind there is some truth behind that statement. It's the few bad apples that ruin the name for the good ones. Some growers you can consider terrorists for the way they go about it, most you can't. But that's politics, one poor mistake from some shithead(s) affects the rest of us...

You're right they should focus more on meth labs and shit. Meth is one of the worst problems we have. They should focus on heroin too. Focus on the hard drugs that are really fucking up things. And FUCK fox news, I don't trust anything coming from fox.

the thing that kills me is that you can go to the corner store and buy a pack of smokes and a bottle of liquor.... but you can't buy weed legally.

Last I checked, alcohol and cigarettes are killing a lot more people than herb.

I wouldn't be upset in the least if they legalized weed and made alcohol and cigarrettes illegal.

legalize it, tax the crap out of it and give me a way to get it anytime I want it and I will be one happy camper.

i do agree with AR15. i come from san diego and they bust a lot of big outdoor grows ,like 10,000+ plants, that are headed by the mexican mafia and some asian gangs and they just sell it just for the money. un-fortunately there are the bad growers that ruin it for the rest of us.

THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE FUCKING COUNTRY I LIVE IN!!!!!!!!!!!111 AHHHHHHHHHHH

general call in the airstrike i see some of those damn terrorists gettin slushies at that 7-11 DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH THAT KINDA TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!!!1111

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Originally Posted by Mirriam Webster

ter·ror·ism [ter-uh-riz-uhm] â??noun
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government

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By that definition it's our government who are the terrorists, not pot growers.

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Originally Posted by Alive

makes me wanna get a gun and shoot that fuck in the face, im sorry but thats just nuts even comparing a marijuana cultivator to full blown terrorism this guy needs to get slapped in the face and a bong shoved down his throat, i know im not giving a good image of a stoner but this just made me royally pissed -.-

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Man, I hope you can grasp the immense irony of that post. You just confirmed everything that guy said reflecting potheads being gun-toting triggerhappy maniacs. I really hope you weren't sincere.

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Originally Posted by afghooey

Man, I hope you can grasp the immense irony of that post. You just confirmed everything that guy said reflecting potheads being gun-toting triggerhappy maniacs. I really hope you weren't sincere.

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I know thats why i said im not giving a good image

the government is crazy!!!!

i can smoke 10 blunts and take a road trip get some one and let them have 10 shots and see how they drive!!!!!

they should legalize it all the money problems would be over!!!

and i would love to go to citgo and tell the attendant abdoul to hand a 20 pack of blueberry haze it would be lovely.

they can send us to war to fight and die why cant we chill on the front porch blaze and not worry about shit?

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Originally Posted by Alive

makes me wanna get a gun and shoot that fuck in the face,

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HAHA

were not terrorists.....

made me laugh

We'll any one with a freed mind is a terrorist to the USA. Any one that wants change is a terrorist e.g. i would like to see our current government trashed as i don't believe it is constitutional any more so that makes me a terrorist because i am against the current government. The leaders of the Revolutionary war were terrorist. It does not surprise me that the government trys to call growing a from of terrorism.

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Originally Posted by AR15

Yeah it is just a plant, and it should be legal, but the fact of the matter is that marijuana is illegal (with some med execptions of course). With that said, keep in mind there are people who grow marijuana and sell it to make a profit because it is illegal (markup on the black market), and some of those people do carry assault rifles and will kill to eliminate threats to their profit.

So yeah, they do face possible threats. Some places are boobie trapped. And if they're going into a raid, they don't know whether it is trapped or not, or whether the people growing are armed and willing to fight or if they're peaceful growers just enjoying what God gave us.

I'm not trying to say I agree with them, most of what they say is crap, but keep in mind there is some truth behind that statement. It's the few bad apples that ruin the name for the good ones. Some growers you can consider terrorists for the way they go about it, most you can't. But that's politics, one poor mistake from some shithead(s) affects the rest of us...

You're right they should focus more on meth labs and shit. Meth is one of the worst problems we have. They should focus on heroin too. Focus on the hard drugs that are really fucking up things. And FUCK fox news, I don't trust anything coming from fox.

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Funny thing is...decriminalizing marijuana would solve all these problems with people growing it because of the high markup and arming households with guns and being "terrorist growers/distributers"

every day i sow dissension among the townsfolk of my community by merely existing. mothers hide their children, husbands fear for the safety of their wives and small children run in fear because i am what they most dread. i am free.

free of the constraints of society's injustice, i am seen as a danger to the american way of life. according to the law of the land i am an outlaw, i should run and hide, i should exist only in the shadows and fear the light of day. but here i am. i walk the streets in broad daylight, mingling with the law abiding and coexisting with the god fearing, contrary to the laws of man and god.

not only do i exist, i thrive. my success is what the citizenry fears most. i am the outsider, how dare i take my profits from those who obeyed every rule and did as they were told since the day they were born. how dare i succeed where so many innocent sheep have failed. in my life they see the futility of their own and the ruin of their carefully laid plans. i am the evil alternative which they denied and in my joy they see their own damnation.

yes, i am a terrorist. by my example is fear born. the fear that this society's superiority is nothing more than an illusion and that the prison it has created is meaningless. fear that the nonsensical restrictions heaped on the public are not for its own good, but to further confine them within the web they have been taught to believe is for their own safety. the fear that safety itself is a lie and that the chaos could be upon us all at any moment.



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They should go after the malitias and terrorist growing weed to sell to fund there wars not the average smoker/seller whos trying to make a buck. Theres a big differance between some one trying to protect there money and bud than a gang and mobs seriously. If your getting no cash selling cuz someone round the block is selling too and you kill them then yeah you need to go to prison or not kill and get a different job. As said above leagalize and you wouldnt have this porblume.