Convincing my doc

Alright today I went to my psychiatrist to see what she though about cannabis, and so she could prescribed me strattera and lexapro. But I came with lots of info on medicinal cannabis, how it helped my conditions, and how she was legally able to give me a "reccomendation". She was somewhat open at first, then BAM! she starts talking about burn-out stoners and how people using it for stuff other than cancer and AIDS are just looking for legal pot. I showed her the papers, she started to skim through, and then I explained some more facts, which she called false(even though I had the evidence they were true right in front of her), and then I had my dad come in and explain to her how what I was saying was true as he had read the articles himself. She then explains how I am wrong, and that UCLA and Harvard would never do studies on cannabis. Eventually she started pissing me off so I started explaining why it was illegal, how it shouldn't be, and how she is just being bribed from fucking pharmecutical companies. I then stormed out and broke the fucking bitchs thermostat. My dad stayed in for a few more minutes then came out. He said that she was embarressed when I made it obvious she was a pharmecutical company whore. Anyways now I pretty much HAVE to go to one of those god damn clinics, pay 150$, and get my recc.....what a waste of time. Oh BTW incase you were wondering....I am diagnosed with; rapid cycling bipolar(about every two weeks),ADD,OCD,Generalized anxiety,Social anxiety, and Insomnia. Not officially diagnosed with PTSD but I am pretty sure I have it due to a traumatic car-jacking. Although i'm 15 my parents would accept me getting medical cannabis, and I think I meet enough requirements....It's not like i'm an irresonsible pothead either. I have a 3.0GPA and a job....it just sickens me how twisted the pharmecutical companies are. End rant.

Get a new doc... You and only you know whats works for YOU..and if her mind set is ~only stoners are after the MMJ~... well, you know what you are dealing with..
Good luck!

Not that it matters but I decided to make an appointment with Aldridge medical, anyone use them before? Over the phone I gave the assistant my info and he said I definately qualified.

I can't believe people still believe this crap that anybody using medical marijuana is "just using their illness as an excuse to get high". Weed has been scientifically and culturally proven to have potent analgesic effects. So what about all the people on opiate painkillers, aren't they just "out to get high" as well? I'm always hearing how MMJ is just a scam to get it legalized, and an excuse for people to use drugs. Well, docs sure love to dole out the opiates, so where's the part where it all becomes legal and anybody with a headache or a sore back can "get some just to get high".

It's just appauling that they continue to push things like oxycontin and vicodin when they could offer an alternative (cannabis) that's non-addictive, non-toxic, easier to titrate the dose, and doesn't have the nasty side-effects like constipation, nausea, and resperatory depression. How anybody can think addictive opiates are a safer choice than cannabis is beyond me.

where are you located in the u.s.? i have all of the same disorders you do, excluding the add and the ptsd, and my doc has pretty much said that she thinks she's about to diagnose me as bipolar in august, when i have my next appointment with her. i go to school 5 hours away from where my parents live and her office, and i'm still at school taking summer classes, so she wants to meet with me in august to evaluate my bipolar tendencies. annnnnnyways, the reason i'm asking where you're located is because i'm thinking that maybe i could somehow try to obtain a reccomendation as well? (i'm in mississippi...and i doubt i could get one here :( ) i've been smoking instead of taking my meds, at least for the past year (when i decided to try to not only smoke recreationally, but also sub it for my meds), and i've seen a world of difference. i'm pretty sure that my psychiatrist won't give me a reccomendation though, because of her religious beliefs and because of the fact that she always asks me if i still smoke (i tell her no), and then proceeds to tell me the "dangers" of marijuana. hah

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where are you located in the u.s.? i have all of the same disorders you do, excluding the add and the ptsd, and my doc has pretty much said that she thinks she's about to diagnose me as bipolar in august, when i have my next appointment with her. i go to school 5 hours away from where my parents live and her office, and i'm still at school taking summer classes, so she wants to meet with me in august to evaluate my bipolar tendencies. annnnnnyways, the reason i'm asking where you're located is because i'm thinking that maybe i could somehow try to obtain a reccomendation as well? (i'm in mississippi...and i doubt i could get one here :( ) i've been smoking instead of taking my meds, at least for the past year (when i decided to try to not only smoke recreationally, but also sub it for my meds), and i've seen a world of difference. i'm pretty sure that my psychiatrist won't give me a reccomendation though, because of her religious beliefs and because of the fact that she always asks me if i still smoke (i tell her no), and then proceeds to tell me the "dangers" of marijuana. hah

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I live in Los Angelse, capital of medical cannabis reccomendations lol. I don't think they have medical cannabis in mississippi, sorry:( But if you ever decide to move to a MMJ state I am 100% certain you would qualify:D And I know what you are saying about meds(to blazed babe and gandalf), I argued to my doctor about how weed isn't addictive compared to xanax, and it's more effective. And to blazed babe, be careful on which meds you take, and dont stop taking any abruptly, but if you ask me(and lots of other bipolars/anxiety/insomnia people on the board) weed is probably the best medicine all around.

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I live in Los Angelse, capital of medical cannabis reccomendations lol. I don't think they have medical cannabis in mississippi, sorry:( But if you ever decide to move to a MMJ state I am 100% certain you would qualify:D And I know what you are saying about meds(to blazed babe and gandalf), I argued to my doctor about how weed isn't addictive compared to xanax, and it's more effective. And to blazed babe, be careful on which meds you take, and dont stop taking any abruptly, but if you ask me(and lots of other bipolars/anxiety/insomnia people on the board) weed is probably the best medicine all around.

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yeah, i know that i am moving once i finish school, which is 2-3 years. i was just wondering if all of my stuff potentially would qualify me :) i didn't stop taking anything abruptly, i slowly got myself off of each med, cutting my dosage down little by little.

soooooooooo...my next step is just to move to a mmj state :)

and i totally agree about the meds, gandalf. that shit pisses me off so much, because people are so ignorant

Hi Matt, you need a different psych. No two ways about it. You do meet the requirements if your parents agree to it. (at least that's how my MMJ specialist does it. No parental consent, no rec.)

Babe, sorry dear, but Mississippi isn't a MMJ state. No recommendations are ever given. Since I live in California, I can only tell you about here. Before you leave Mississippi, get a copy of your medical records. With them in hand (detailing a legit medical problem), it is ridiculously easy to get a recommendation. Only thing else you need, is the money to pay the doctor. It will run under $200. In California, you can grow 6 mature plants and have 1/2 pound of bud, if you are a MMJ user. - Granny:hippy:

I feel ya bro, I got the same shit with my doc but I didn't bring in any information on medical weed, mainly because he told me the previous visit he would check it out and he sounded like he was open to the idea....but I have a feeling somebody, I'm guessing someone that gives him lots of money, convinced him otherwise.

I must be wrong since nobody pointed it out, but I thought you had to be 18 to go legal in California, but I don't really know and since nobody mentioned that I must be wrong on that.

Good luck, sucks to have to pay but that's what I did. At least you know you can't trust her word, so in a weird way it was good to find out she cares more about prescribing you drugs from drug companies than giving a free recommendation that many drug companies are scared to shit of. Worst thing for those drug companies to happen for you is to actually get healthy, oh dear no!!

Nailhead, my MMJ specialist will give recommendations to minors- ONLY if both parents (or sole custodial parent) agree to it in writing. It can be done, but most parents won't go for it. - Granny:hippy:

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Nailhead, my MMJ specialist will give recommendations to minors- ONLY if both parents (or sole custodial parent) agree to it in writing. It can be done, but most parents won't go for it. - Granny:hippy:

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Yeah. At first my parents were somewhat sceptical. Then I tried an onslaught of meds with no real luck. And then they sort of saw how when I would be smoking cannabis most of my symptoms would go away. Eventually I just showed them the facts, and my dad has really warmed up to the idea and is the one taking me to the apointment today. And my mother just wants me to find some relief, and she is willing to give a drug with bad stigma a try if it actually helps. Anyways i'm really excited for today, i'm bringing my ID, list of prescription meds, and my now old phsyciatrists number so the place can call and confirm the conditions. My dad is coming and is going to sign whatever papers, which I hope is fine, and now we are looking for a phsyciatrist who will monitor my progress on cannabis:jointsmile:

All the states differ in what is acceptable medicinal use of pot.Here in Washington mental problems aren't one of the uses to be prescribed.It should be.Anybody that smokes knows what a good job of changing your attitude and cheering you up.

I got approved! As of right now, I am officially a medical mrijuana patient. For the next 12 months:jointsmile: Time to go buy meds.

Congratulations MATT.:thumbsup:

congrats! wtf...I was trying to post a link to another forum that could help you find the best places to go as a patient but this forum is blocking it, does this site not like competition or something? It's similar to weedspotter only people actually use the forum lol (the name is very similar too) ;)

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congrats! wtf...I was trying to post a link to another forum that could help you find the best places to go as a patient but this forum is blocking it, does this site not like competition or something? It's similar to weedspotter only people actually use the forum lol (the name is very similar too) ;)

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Don't worry, I know what site you are tlaking about:thumbsup: It's very helpful but fucking confusing as hell to search for shit lol.

Enjoy that first "legal" smoke. I found it amazing how much higher I got with my first "legal" joint! Paranoia is such a bring-down! You just don't realize how much until you get "legal". - Granny:hippy:

Many physicians feel no obligation to tell patients about legal but morally controversial medical treatments or to refer patients to doctors who do not object to those treatments

congrats! i was gonna reccomend you my doctor who lives in culver city, but looks like you already go it covered. what clubs in la have you been to? i highly recommend VBC in venice beach and earth collective in west hollywood. might not be the closest to you, but i've been to a lot of la clubs and those two have the best shit. a little more expensive, but it is definitely some high grade cheeba.

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congrats! i was gonna reccomend you my doctor who lives in culver city, but looks like you already go it covered. what clubs in la have you been to? i highly recommend VBC in venice beach and earth collective in west hollywood. might not be the closest to you, but i've been to a lot of la clubs and those two have the best shit. a little more expensive, but it is definitely some high grade cheeba.

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 Yeah I got it covered:thumbsup: As of now, I've only been to West Valley Patients Group. Got an 1/8 of Kushy Kush, and 18.41 grams of shake to make budder for brownies. Cost 70$ with my10% first time discount. I've only gone to that one so far, but earth collective in hollywood is an area I visit frequently, so I may check it out next time I buy.

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 Yeah I got it covered:thumbsup: As of now, I've only been to West Valley Patients Group. Got an 1/8 of Kushy Kush, and 18.41 grams of shake to make budder for brownies. Cost 70$ with my10% first time discount. I've only gone to that one so far, but earth collective in hollywood is an area I visit frequently, so I may check it out next time I buy.

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WVCP on Ventura? All I have to say is, always make sure they weigh it out in front of you there. One time they rocked me for 4 grams off an O and since I had left and came back, they "didn't feel obligated" to right themselves.

EC's amazing when one of their planetary buds are in, otherwise it's just a waste of 15 bucks imo. If you're looking for quality in the valley, I have to recommend HCR.

I hate all of you that live in california.
Fuck north carolina.

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WVCP on Ventura? All I have to say is, always make sure they weigh it out in front of you there. One time they rocked me for 4 grams off an O and since I had left and came back, they "didn't feel obligated" to right themselves.

EC's amazing when one of their planetary buds are in, otherwise it's just a waste of 15 bucks imo. If you're looking for quality in the valley, I have to recommend HCR.

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Yeah on Ventura. I'll take your advice next time. Only went there because it was close and we were in a hurry. I'll check out HCR soon.

all the planetary shit at EC is so amazing. it's always kush too. lunar kush, jupiter kush, mars kush, titan kush, etc etc. amazing edibles too. EC adn VBC only place that sells strong edibles for $10. everywhere else is like $20-$30 for a good strong one.

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all the planetary shit at EC is so amazing. it's always kush too. lunar kush, jupiter kush, mars kush, titan kush, etc etc. amazing edibles too. EC adn VBC only place that sells strong edibles for $10. everywhere else is like $20-$30 for a good strong one.

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The last time I went to EC they were giving away these butterscotch edibles, I honestly don't think I've ever had a better edible. They also sell great clones.

My biggest problem with them is that extra fifteen bucks. I'd rather buy an eighth that's almost as good for 60 and save the extra money on concentrates.

Have you ever been to sunset collective? I see it every time I drive to EC, but since I'm already on my way to a club I've never stopped there.

i've debated on whether or not to go there a couple of times, but haven't yet stopped in. i recently found the most amazing club though in long beach. every eighth is $45, and it's like what the other clubs would sell for $60-$70, and they have a couple $55, but it is really good (la confidental x bubblegum or 6 month cured OG is what they had today). the best prices ever.