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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
Here we go our liberties are punished because some crazy bastards wanna kill us.This isnt the way to fight terrorism.If muslims want to kill us then its their rights that shoud be affected and not ours and all muslims especially honest ones should accept this after all its their kind thats doing the murder and maiming or attempting to and maybe if it was their rights being affected then maybe they would come forward with information to prevent it happening and their rights being affected.After all ,we all know what gets preached at most mosques in the uk ,just watch the dispatches episode(undercover mosque) and you will see what gets preached in the uk Mosques and you cant tell me all the muslim at those mosques are active terrorists they are your every day so called honest muslims lets face it 95% of muslims want all non beleavers dead so surley its their rights that should be affected and with no arguement to follow.Im sorry if my veiws offend anyone but just saying what most honest people in the uk are thinking. sad but true.dave the postman.
Police want stop and search power
Scots police chiefs expect to be granted further powers to stop and search the public in the wake of the Glasgow Airport terror attack.
The president of the Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland (Acpos), said the powers had been applied for after Saturday's attack.
Chief Constable Colin McKerracher urged the public to be tolerant of extra security measures.
He said they would be used "sensitively" and when appropriate.
Mr McKerracher said: "We have applied for the authorisation to utilise stop-and-search and that is across every community in Scotland.
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"That will be done sensitively and in situations where officers on the ground feel that is appropriate.
"Those powers were sought two days ago and that gives us an immediate 48 hours authorisation and then they will be confirmed by the Home Secretary."
Speaking on behalf of Scotland's eight police forces, Mr McKerracher said: "It is our intention, as people get back to work today and as community life returns to normal, to maintain our high-visibility patrols and to make sure the people of Scotland realise that we have their safety at heart."
The police chief, head of Grampian Police, said each force would use all the resources available to combat the terror threat and reassure the public.
He confirmed that setting down by cars outside airport entrances would not be permitted for the foreseeable future.
Security will also be enhanced at large public gatherings such as this month's T in the Park music festival in Perthshire. Mr McKerracher said the public response since the car attack had been "terrific". Speaking of the period after Saturday afternoon's incident, he said: "One or two forces, their switchboards were continually being brought to a standstill because of the number of calls coming through to us, so the public response has been terrific."
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
95% of muslims want non-beleivers dead? Where did you pull that one from the Daily Mails rectal passage?
I don't mind if the police stop and search me in times like this, as long as they don't confiscate my weed. It's all Tony Bliars fault for dragging us into Bushes imperial war. It is a serious threat and I wont stand in the way of the police doing what they need to do, we are at war. But I am really not threatened by this, because I am not muslim. I doubt that I will be singled out as a suspect.
A bunch of guys from Iraq tried to set off a few bombs and failed, I'm surprised it hasn't happened more. Iraq is in ruins because of us, does anyone know if any of these men have relatives in Iraq who have been killed as a result of the war? Just a thought, something has obviously driven them to this madness, and considering that we have just genocided Iraq into a war zone...
Carry on with this anti-muslim rhetoric, as far as I am concerned I will carry on treating them as my brothers and sisters. I know at least 50 personally, around the world, and I am pretty sure that none of them wat to kill me because I am Christian.
Maybe one day I will come across one who seems pleasant enough on the exterior, yet unbenkown to me might be harbouring terorrist plots. Perhaps a kind word from me and someone else might help to dispell any hatred he might have towards us for what our forces have done in their country, and stop them from carrying it out, whereas otherwise persistently alienating them might further compound their anguish.
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
I don't realy like getting into politcal debates around here as I'm all too aware of the consequences... But mate, you must know already that it's A Big Idea, it's A New World Order. There have to be an arsenal of excuses at the ready to make the order work.
Gradually, by stealth and via the backdoor approach, the entire planet's population is being quick marched down roads to a destination we know not. No one doesn't ask '..to where is our destination..', instead we concern ourselves with the scenery, luggage, other persons on board etc and never the destination. Pull the Brake for god sake!!
The manufactured wars and this new word that's always on the tip of the tongue of many (Terror) is just a smoke screen diverting the attention of the mainstream from the true reality. And to add, unless one is a muslim or associates themselves closely with those circles of people then one doesn't have any idea of what is preached in a mosque. Relying on the media for a daily does of lies is not a useful reference when trying to get to the root of situations.
01/07/07: UK goes smoke free!! different subject I know, but If u can make a nation give up one of the most addictive habbits known to man without an uproar, then you are in a position to orchestrate anything and have the multidude eat out of your hand without ever asking why.
Remember the fuel problems some time back where people feared not having petrol or diesel? Remember B.S.E and mad cow? Remember all these occurances that didn't last but wooed the masses into fear? The Government call it Shock Testing. It's a way of testing the populations reaction to problems based on pyscology and other studies of human behaviors.
There is a lot going on in the world. But not all of it is the real deal.. Much of it is bollox, while the other half is lies. Trust no one in these times, especially politicians, but the choice is ours (Not Theirs~)
Good thread, hope my opinion isn't too over the top!!
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
so staurm you dont beleave that murder of all non beleavers is preached in most uk mosques? And you dont mind having your cival liberties being fucked up becuase a chosen few among the muslim community want to kill , maim and injure anyone whom doesnt follow their beleifs.I some time wonder what planet somepeople live on.I dont thinkl you come from glasgow becuase if you did and seen what the some in the muslim community have done to normal everyday scots people then im sure you would change your views as its weiws like yours that allow that terrorsts to florish imo.dave
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
Go to the mosque in Edinburgh and then come back and tell me these people are terrorists, otherwise I'll just have to take your tabloid statistics as nothing more than that.
Tony Blair has fucked up our civil liberties, not the muslim community.
As for coming from Glasgow well, what has that got to do with. I used to live there and now I live 70 miles from it. As it happens I might actually have been flying out of the country this weekend, I might still be in two days. I think you will find that I am as concerned for my life as you are, only I am not going round preaching the kind of racism you seem to be at the moment.
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
whatch this and tell me they all dont want us dead . We are all kaffars to them and as for me being racist you dont even know me i have loads of freinds from all sort race and religeon all of whom have the same veiws on the fantic muslims .dave
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
Home grower That was fking Class post the best ive read here.....
Man you make a lot of sence rar these days...
Good luck from Dublin
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
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Originally Posted by postmandave
whatch this and tell me they all dont want us dead . We are all kaffars to them and as for me being racist you dont even know me i have loads of freinds from all sort race and religeon all of whom have the same veiws on the fantic muslims .dave
what living in Glasgow has to do with it you aint living amongs them or having to be told your kid is the minority in a school that i went to when i was younger a school that is now 76% muslim a school that the pupils abuse any white that goes to that said school.
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
Where does it say 95% of muslims want us "kuffars" dead?
Saudi Arabia.. isn't that the country we sell loads of arms to each year.
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
Postman if they "Preach" murder why didnt someone call the popos then?
Im worse for getting into this lololol.....
Dont be Blinded Postie......
Peace D
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
Post is afraid its worked hes beleaving the hype and i understand why but it doesnt make it right too have this us and them mentality
Peace D
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
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Originally Posted by Land of Drought
Post is afraid its worked hes beleaving the hype and i understand why but it doesnt make it right too have this us and them mentality
Peace D
Have you ever bothered to read the Quran? The major problem is that the moderates hands are tied when dealing with the extremists because of the preachings. It's almost like a biker code that you don't talk down a brother in public.
"Remember the fuel problems some time back where people feared not having petrol or diesel? Remember B.S.E and mad cow? Remember all these occurances that didn't last but wooed the masses into fear?"
Yeah I remember all that and can honestly say that IF the governments did nothing regarding it or even said to hell with giving out the information people would be calling it a HUGE cover-up. If they state these things then their creating fear...if not then it's a scandal.
Have a good one!:s4:
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
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Originally Posted by Land of Drought
Post is afraid its worked hes beleaving the hype and i understand why but it doesnt make it right too have this us and them mentality
Peace D
Well, when "them" finally decide that strapping on a suicide vest in order to blow up "us" then maybe things will mellow a bit.
Have a good one!:s4:
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
Not all of "them" want to do that. Some of "them" could have been killed by the bombers on saturday, one of "them" saliently pointed out on the radio today.
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
If I lived in a large European city, I'd be more concerned about Muslims than I am living in New York. At least they assimilate somewhat better here, although we've have had some homegrown terrorists in the U.S., as well.
When they are very isolated, by choice or otherwise, they're going to be resentful toward the general population outside of their communities. Dealing with it is just as important as foreign policy, if not more. We have mosques right next door to Jewish synagogues, and there's no problems for the most part between the two groups.
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
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Originally Posted by Staurm
Not all of "them" want to do that. Some of "them" could have been killed by the bombers on saturday, one of "them" saliently pointed out on the radio today.
And the ones that went down for the "cause" are either considered martyrs by the extremists or sympathizers to the infidels.
Have a good one!:s4:
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
haha blinded .dude if you or storm dont know whats going on in glasgow then its you both that are blinded .I know whats going on in Glasgow and it whats going on in glasgow im speaking about.The last 2 muslim men up at the high court for rape of a glaswegian woma said in open court"how can you rape a prostitute" this was someones daughter coming home from an night out.I was born in Glasagow and have lived in amongst muslims all my life i have some good assosiates whom WERE muslim .They are the ones with the us and them attitute not us glasweigens.When they started coming into my area in the early 70s they set about building A MUSLIM COMMUNITY RATHER THAN INTERGRATE WITH THE LOCALS NOW IN MY OLD SCHOOL MY SON GETS BRANDED A MINORITY AS THE SCHOOL IS 79% MUSLIM .
All im saying is that we have to start speaking up for what we beleave and i beleave that most muslims want all people to follow the muslim faith simple.They should go back to their own counties and have those states why come and try impose them on us.If their faith is so fuckin important to them then stay in ur own country were you can practise it in peace dont come to my country and kill my people because they dont follow your faith. becuase its for certain Glasgow was the wrong place to do that. Now you have got the glasweigens angry and we wont tolarate it no more.Staurm if you live near Glasgow then you should know that this is a growing opinion ,this seems to have been the last straw and after the Kris donald murder people are slim on patience.I aint no racist and i resent being called one beacase i speak my mind.
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
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Originally Posted by Staurm
That's not right either but tell me something.....how many of your head Muslim Clerics over there have issued a Fatwa denouncing extremists and suicide killings?
Have a good one!:s4:
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
I remember this exact event well (exageratoin) she was accosted as she left the call box by 4 female teenagers granted they were abusing her becuase of her scarf.But it is well known this woman used this attack to help her get rehoused in england along with the rest of her family whom got split up when they came to the uk.The area this happened is called Sighthill.They moved thousands of muslims and other asylum seekers to thats area in around 2000.Now these asylum seekers were given all sorts of benefits that the locals were refused from the dhss.Like grants for new furniture(which the police say they sold on to second hand furniture shops and then reported them stolen) They were given a grant for a car as well back then if they entered the country with a full valid license and a allowance to kepp it topped up with petrol .They were given phone cards amounting to £50 week as well back then .The locals took offense to them getting things that they had been refused(childish and uncalled for yes) and it was 4 teenage girls whom attacked her verbaly not physicly.She used this to get the move she so desperatly wanted.Of course this was wrong but its a couple of teenage girls .You look at how many woman have been raped by muslims in glasgow in the last 5 years i dont know the amount myself but i have read numerous court cases the usual being them operating as bogus taxi drivers and raping woman the last 2 going out in a van looking for a victim purely becuase she was white and as i said Kris Donald purely becuase he is white and many more.Like mohammed answar the muslim politition a crook the whole family are i can remeber answar running in govan and paying the local jakies for their vote.It seems you are trying to potray the muslims in Glasgow as the innocents.If that is the case you certainly dont know nothing about the race relations in Glasgow Staurm .Oh and yeh if you had a teenage girl and she had to be looked at repulsively like the scottish girls do by muslim men becuase they show there legs and dont cover up dont you think that its understandable why this even happened in the first place. all i can say is that you obviously dont live among the muslim community.Becuase if you did you wouldnt have the veiws you have.These peole have no time for us or our ways so why must we be forced to live amongst them in our own country thats what i dont understand they brought their countries with them and their problems if allah is so good then go back to your muslim countries and take him with you we have no problem with that.Multi cultural society what a joke .
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
I don't know man, none probably, but I don't think for a minute they are all bad. These guys at the edinburgh mosque are certainly doing their bit for race relations though, by cooking nice food for us everyday between 12 and 7pm. They opened the kitchen up to non muslims following 9-11.
Edinburgh Central Mosque
Edinburgh Evening News - Mosque to fight image crisis with open days
Your run of the mill muslim citizen isn't involved in this kind of shit I am sure. It's just a minority.
Anyway I googled these if they are of interest.
BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Cleric condemns suicide attacks
Suicide bombings are against Islam, says leading Iranian cleric | Iran | Middle East | International News | News | Telegraph
HEY! It just came on the news apparently the car involved in the glasgow attack was seen round here in the south west, and the police are investigating whether the canisters were purcahsed in the garden shop not 5 minutes from where I live.
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Originally Posted by Staurm
I agree it is a minority but a Fatwa is more/less a religious law for them. Why doesn't any of the leading Clerics step up and declare one?
As for the charity work that is very cool BUT; in their beliefs, IF they were to have "world control" each religion would still be able to practice but they would still follow Sharia Law. Kind of like the master having control of it's pets for better terms. They feel that during the times of Muslim rule there was peace and that all sectors were being cared for by the "dominant race".
The cleric accepts that "if there is no choice, no peace, no security, then the holy Koran says that when your enemy attacks you, you can fight him".
Moreover, Muslim extremists like to claim that Israeli civilians are not really "civilians" because most of them serve in the Israeli army and perform regular stints of reserve duty.
Nevertheless, Dr Safavi's comments are a rare departure in a region where suicide bombers - especially Palestinian militants who attack Israeli civilians in the name of Islam - are idolised and often receive the explicit blessing of Muslim religious leaders.
Dr Safavi's views on Israel are, if anything, even more revolutionary.
We'll see what his longevity is now with these comments. It's still far from issueing a Fatwa BUT a step in the right direction.
Have a good one!:s4:
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
Staurm im not saying that all muslims are bad as ive said i grew up among them but in my finding the good decent muslims would not speak out to the police if they heard jihad preaching in a mosque and thats how these problems are going to get out of hand the Glasweigen people have been patient and kind in most their dealings with the muslim population ,Ok the odd teenage or racist remark ,the odd alky shouting abuse in the street but we would not rape their woman we Glasweigen men have more respect for woman than the average muslim man.We do not inflict violence against muslims granted you get the odd isolated offence occuring but overall they are not slashed stabbed or just set right aboot when the shit kicks off you know Glasgow is the most violent city in europe and has a higher murder rate than new york.This is becuase we settle scores with knives (mostly)Now have you heard of many muslim men being slashed stabbbed or shot.No it just dosent happen as much to muslims or any other race we do it to ourselves .All im saying is i feel in my bones that this last event is going to lead to backlash you mark my words its in the air. I was in Pollok today and in tesco i must have heard at least 20 racist comments towards muslims(not normal)One guy was saying to some old granny."dont you worry love no fuckin asian is going to hurt you cause we have just about had enough of this shit.Then another 2 woman saying fuck this if the coppers arent going to sort this then let ourr men sort it.If you know the glasgow mentality you will know that if the woman are angry and scared you can be sure that the men are getting ready for war.sad but true.I blame the immigration law.Multi cultural dont work .If people want to live ike a scot come to scotland if you want to live like a american go to america and if you want to live like a asian go to asia then nobody would get upset.Dont come to scotland to live like a asian or go to america to live like a scot you cant go imposing your culture on others and not expect to piss people off.If i fancied living the american dream i would go to america and live like an american not take my kilt and sporn and bagpipes and walk about looking down on others for not wearing a skirt lol. and i wouldnt stick the nut in the first one that gave me shit fot it .you get were im coming from mate.Now days so many people wont speak up becuase of fear of being branded racist that i think is the cause of the problems.dave
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Police want stop and search power in Scotland
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Originally Posted by postmandave
Staurm im not saying that all muslims are bad as ive said i grew up among them but in my finding the good decent muslims would not speak out to the police if they heard jihad preaching in a mosque and thats how these problems are going to get out of hand
Right, so how do you know all these places ARE preaching jihad then?
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the Glasweigen people have been patient and kind in most their dealings with the muslim population ,Ok the odd teenage or racist remark ,the odd alky shouting abuse in the street but we would not rape their woman we Glasweigen men have more respect for woman than the average muslim man.
LOL and the average Glaswegian man is a drunken wife beater, unless of course I'm generalising. All the rest are junkies.
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We do not inflict violence against muslims granted you get the odd isolated offence occuring
Yeah sure they are all going around on the rampage all the time over here, it's getting a bit like Iraq these days.
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but overall they are not slashed stabbed or just set right aboot when the shit kicks off you know Glasgow is the most violent city in europe and has a higher murder rate than new york.This is becuase we settle scores with knives (mostly)Now have you heard of many muslim men being slashed stabbbed or shot.No it just dosent happen as much to muslims or any other race we do it to ourselves .All im saying is i feel in my bones that this last event is going to lead to backlash you mark my words its in the air.
For sure it will.
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Originally Posted by postmandave
I was in Pollok today and in tesco i must have heard at least 20 racist comments towards muslims(not normal)One guy was saying to some old granny."dont you worry love no fuckin asian is going to hurt you cause we have just about had enough of this shit.
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Then another 2 woman saying fuck this if the coppers arent going to sort this then let ourr men sort it.If you know the glasgow mentality you will know that if the woman are angry and scared you can be sure that the men are getting ready for war.sad but true.
Yeah and no doubt it'll be some innocent bystander that gets attacked by the mindless vigilantes.
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I blame the immigration law.Multi cultural dont work .
Well it's going to have to isn't it. If no-one else wants to extend the hand of friendship towards our enemy, then I will.
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If people want to live ike a scot come to scotland if you want to live like a american go to america and if you want to live like a asian go to asia then nobody would get upset.Dont come to scotland to live like a asian or go to america to live like a scot you cant go imposing your culture on others and not expect to piss people off.
Muslims aren't imposing their culture on us, but we are imposing ours on them, here to an extent and moreso in Iraq.
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If i fancied living the american dream i would go to america and live like an american not take my kilt and sporn and bagpipes and walk about looking down on others for not wearing a skirt lol. and i wouldnt stick the nut in the first one that gave me shit fot it .you get were im coming from mate.Now days so many people wont speak up becuase of fear of being branded racist that i think is the cause of the problems.dave
Say what's on your mind, but if I think you are speaking the rhetoric of racism, I will tell you.
Hey man I've lived in Manchester, I worked in a bar there and everyso often we would get a visit from the Cheetham hill gangs of asian origin, and beleive me they are one fucking nasty bunch of characters. Doormen would get threatened with guns, and girls would get sexually assualted at the bar.
But at the same time you'd also occasionally get the local scallywags coming in and causing bother, they nearly killed a student who was standing at the bar minding his own business one night, for fun, by stamping on his head.
