Police avert car bomb 'carnage'

A car bomb planted in central London would have caused "carnage" if it had exploded, police sources have said.
A controlled explosion was carried out on the car, packed with 60 litres of petrol, gas cylinders and nails, in Haymarket, near Piccadilly Circus.

An ambulance crew saw smoke coming from the green metallic Mercedes, near the Tiger Tiger nightclub at 0130 BST.

"International elements" are believed to be involved, Whitehall sources told the BBC.

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Peter Clarke, head of Scotland Yard's counter-terrorism command, said: "It is obvious that if the device had detonated there could have been serious injury or loss of life."

The ambulance had been called to the nightclub to treat a sick man when they spotted smoke, now believed to be vapour, inside the car.

Bomb experts manually disabled the "potentially viable explosive device".
BBC NEWS | UK | Police avert car bomb 'carnage'

The one that almost got away........glad to see they caught it.

Have a good one!:s4:

Could be some fear mongering. I'll believe it when one explodes, even then it could be planted by British intelligence, stranger things have happened. And that's right, I don't trust the British government anymore than I trust ours. Afterall, they are co-conspiritors in Iraqs Oil grab. Just remember, I dont hate my country, just the corrupt guys running it.

That what I think whenever I hear stuff like this on the news, like the time the were rolling tanks into Heathrow airport. Nothing happened, they could make any shit up if they want, and probably do.

Props to the people who took swift action to report and diffuse the bombs. It's nice to see human compassion overcome human hatred for once in the news.

I dont doubt that it was real, the conspiracy thing never really caught on for me (except cryptozoology). But who knows. But I am glad they caught it.

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Could be some fear mongering. I'll believe it when one explodes, even then it could be planted by British intelligence, stranger things have happened. And that's right, I don't trust the British government anymore than I trust ours. Afterall, they are co-conspiritors in Iraqs Oil grab. Just remember, I dont hate my country, just the corrupt guys running it.

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Umm...don't you remember the previous bombs that exploded in London? Or were those also planted by the British government? :rolleyes:

For once one of these horrible disasters is prevented, and yet a lot of people can't just be glad about that because they're too busy blaming everything scary in the news on the big government conspiracy to keep us afraid. Wake up, people.

It's a dangerous world, and the danger is coming from many different sources. It's not the Illuminati versus everybody else. The world is way more complicated than that. Don't adopt a simplistic black-and-white good-versus-evil interpretation of society, unless you really want to stoop down to Bush's intellectual level.

Our governments are filled with incompetent boobs who can't agree on anything. What makes you think they could pull off a successful conspiracy to fake terrorist attacks when they fail so abysmally at everything else they do, and they're constantly battling with each other to promote their own ideologies and careers?

Ummmmmm..^^^^...I buy it when you start honoring your lord and savior Jesus Christ.....;)

Governments gone wild! next on Stalinvison....

UK agents 'did have role in IRA bomb atrocities'

The controversy over claims that Britain allowed two IRA informers to organise 'human bomb' attacks intensified this weekend.
A human rights watchdog has handed a report to the Police Service of Northern Ireland, which concludes that two British agents were central to the bombings of three army border installations in 1990.

Meanwhile the Police Ombudsman's Office in Belfast confirmed it is investigating allegations by the family of one victim that the bomb in Newry on 24 October 1990 could have been prevented.
UK agents 'did have role in IRA bomb atrocities' | Politics | The Observer

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Umm...don't you remember the previous bombs that exploded in London? Or were those also planted by the British government? :rolleyes:

For once one of these horrible disasters is prevented, and yet a lot of people can't just be glad about that because they're too busy blaming everything scary in the news on the big government conspiracy to keep us afraid. Wake up, people.

It's a dangerous world, and the danger is coming from many different sources. It's not the Illuminati versus everybody else. The world is way more complicated than that. Don't adopt a simplistic black-and-white good-versus-evil interpretation of society, unless you really want to stoop down to Bush's intellectual level.

Our governments are filled with incompetent boobs who can't agree on anything. What makes you think they could pull off a successful conspiracy to fake terrorist attacks when they fail so abysmally at everything else they do, and they're constantly battling with each other to promote their own ideologies and careers?

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There was a munitions expert on CNN that explained that the type of explosives in these cars would not have done much damage, in fact, if you were standing next to it, it might give you a headache and a flashburn but no major explosion as it was an incendiary device, not an explosive one, no nails leaving at supersonic speed to do damage to human flesh, But to hear the mainstream news, Fear-Fear-Fear, huge car bomb discovered in downtown London, Bullshit. As to your incompetence theory, they might have a few guys with some brain cells in the NSA-CIA etc. that could pull this off.

That's kind of what I was thinking too. How the hell can you ignite a gas canister with a mobile phone? And where was the 60 litres of petrol? That's about the full capacity of a mercedes tank. As far as i can see all that could have happened is the car goes on fire, and possibly the gas canisters would explode but wouldn't they just just blow out the top, they surely wouldn't rip apart. I watched a guy on telly showing us a bag of nails that were supposed to have been sent flying outwards with the explosion, I don't see how. And if the car was really a potential danger, they wouldn't be letting anyone near it, there could be a bomb hidden somewhere else in the car! If this is really the work of amatuers who clearly have no clue as to how to build a bomb, what the fuck were using mercedes for? Unless the cars were stolen, they haven't said. And how long does it take before a car gets towed? Would a terrorist leave a car sitting for that long, if it had a huge bomb sitting in the back seat? Unless it was the same guy, and realising he cocked up the first job he decides to try again.

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There was a munitions expert on CNN that explained that the type of explosives in these cars would not have done much damage, in fact, if you were standing next to it, it might give you a headache and a flashburn but no major explosion as it was an incendiary device, not an explosive one, no nails leaving at supersonic speed to do damage to human flesh

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If you're right, that's some pretty powerful evidence that this is not a government conspiracy. If they were really behind it, the bomb experts would have come back and said "Whoa, good thing we diffused these babies. They could have blown up the whole damn city! This shit was nuclear!" If I were going to fake a foiled terrorist plot to make people afraid, I wouldn't then tell everybody that what I saved them from was a harmless petrol bomb with some nails that couldn't really have done much damage.

We can't just brush off the threat because one terrorist didn't make a good enough bomb this time.

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But to hear the mainstream news, Fear-Fear-Fear, huge car bomb discovered in downtown London, Bullshit.

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If we're talking about fear-mongering, the government pales in comparison to the conspiracy theorists, who do nothing but try to make people incredibly afraid of the vast government conspiracy that is successfully directing world events behind the scenes with sinister plans to keep us all in submission. Al-Qaeda isn't nearly as terrifying as the idea of a gigantic government conspiracy to fake terrorist attacks to keep us in a perpetual war for resources.

I really don't get how these conspiracy theorists point their fingers at the government and accuse them of fear-mongering, when that's all they ever do themselves! Honestly, have you ever read one of these conspiracy theorists who ever said not to be deathly afraid of what's going on in the world? I haven't.

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As to your incompetence theory, they might have a few guys with some brain cells in the NSA-CIA etc. that could pull this off.

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Almost anyone has the brain cells to make a car bomb. I wasn't talking about brain cells. I was talking about motive, feasibility, and practicality. Whose idea was this? How did they propose it to everybody else and convince them to go along? How could they possibly decide to go ahead with such a risky plot, which would mean instant political suicide if they screw up? What moron could actually think that the potential benefit to themselves would outweigh the huge risks involved?

"Hey Bill, I was thinking we fake a terrorist attack and murder some people so we and our friends can make some more money..."
"Oh my God, that's horrible! I'm going to do whatever I can to stop you."
"Dammit, now I have to kill you Bill." *BANG*
"Hey Ted, I was thinking we fake a terrorist attack and murder some people so we and our friends can make some more money..."
"I'd rather not. I love to kill innocents for money and power too, but I really don't want to risk getting caught. I hear domestic terrorists don't get conjugal visits in prison..."
"Dammit, Ted, you know too much. I have to kill you too." *BANG*

I'm an anarchist. I don't trust the government. But the government screws up our lives enough in the real world that we don't need to make up wild claims to put all the blame for everything bad on them.

Breaking news of a suicide bomb attack at Glasgow Airport now.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Car on fire crashes into airport

Looks like this shit yesterday was real after all.

Well done TONY you fucking warmonger, thanks for dragging us into a war now I feel so much safer froim the terrrorists!

If this is terrorists then they are more likely home grown .The petrol was left opened in the back seat and the gas canisters opened leaking gas in the boot and a mobile phone sitting on the passengers seat.it say that the bomb was defused by an alert policeman turning off the phone.I think the so called terrorist was waiting for a fume build up and then phone the mobile the connect spark would ignite the fumes but a police officer lent in and turned the phone off ,wouldnt that cause the fumes to ignite?Oh yeh and YEH Tony fucking thanks for opening the doors and letting them live amonst us and preach death to the infadels fuckin idiot!.dave

You could do alot of damage with a little gas, used correctly. Park your car in front of the fire exit, walk into a movie theater with 5 gallons of gas and a bic lighter...

It is the worlds great fortune I use my genius only for good.

Bloody idiots, good job no-one was hurt.

WTF is this happy horseshit now? I'm glad they seem like total amateurs, hopefully they will just about manage to kill themselves.

Number of suicide bombers in Iraq pre 2003....
0

Number of suicide bombers in the UK pre Iraq 2003
Yep, zero

FEAR makes the wolf look bigger :mad:

i am so glad that nobody lost there lives,by these people,as an irish man,who lived in london,when so called fellow country men were letting off bombs,in the name of my country,i for one am glad the police are on the ball,,look at glasgow airport ,close to killing people,thank god thry were caught...my advise is keep your eyes peeled,,and my god watch over yis all..:) :hippy:

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Breaking news of a suicide bomb attack at Glasgow Airport now.

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Car on fire crashes into airport

Looks like this shit yesterday was real after all.

Well done TONY you fucking warmonger, thanks for dragging us into a war now I feel so much safer froim the terrrorists!

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Yes, the whole war between Israel and the Arab world has now been dragged on to our shores which now threatens our children. Blair needed the whole WMD excuse to do this, in which we now know was load of BS.

As if there wasn't enough hatred for the British in this world, we now have to deal with this crap. Blair has reignited the flame of our imperialistic past!