my first closet to be built soon

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hey all im new here and im goin to build a 3 room cab. I used to grow with a buddy about 2 yrs ago so its been a while. ive never seen a cab setups till recently, and they look AWESOME!
the cab i want to build is about 5'l x 4'w x 8'h
flower 5'l x 4'w x 5'h t5 ho 4' 8 bulb(40,000lum)
veg 3'l x 4'w x 3'h t5 ho 2' 8 bulb
clone 2'l x 4'w x 3'h 1 125w clf
each section will have its own door and air tight and light proof
for veg and clone ill use 120mm fans coming in from the bottom for fresh air, one for each chamber. 1 120mm fan in veg blowing on the babies
2 120mm fans going from the bottom chambers to the top flower chamber
2 120mm fans on each side blowing fresh air in on the ladies.
havnt figured out how i want the exhaust yet, BUT WITH A HOMEADE SCRUBBER. ANY COMMENTS WOULD BE APRECIATED.
A FEW XTRA THINGS THAT I CANT THINK OF :stoned:
I HAVE A BUNCH OF SEEDS
BOG MEDELY COLLECTION
SERIOUS SEEDS KALI MIST
SWEET CINDY 99
SOME FREEBYS FROM GETTIN SEEDS SKUNK #1 AND SOUTH AFRICAN DURBON POISON X SKUNK
AND SOME EXOTIC BAGSEED, BLUEBERRY, SUNKIST, WHITE WIDOW, SHORELINE(LOCAL AND SOME OF THE BEST) AND A FEW OTHERS
i dont know if i should start with the freebys or some of the unnamed bagseed

THANX FOR LISTENIN AND SOME INPUT WOULD BE APRECIATED
DIAGRAM WILL COME SOON :smokebong:

i just got back from my home (been measuring the closet size) and i wont beable to use the fluoros. the size of the new cab is 3'l x 1 3/4'w x 8 'h and that sux because i thought i could fit a bigger cab. since its smaller im goin to use a 400hps aircooled

how about this design
am i goin the right way
im so exited to get started again
i just got BOG'S book in (bought because it was BOG) and it was good
was thinkin bout using bag seed but will not
heres the diagram

i was thinking about using a rubbermaid tub for a diy bud dryer, but in order to use those you have to cut the buds and not let them hang. well how bout this design for a hanging diy stealth bud dryer

can you use high power pc fans with a small scrubber?
or get a little $30 inline fan from the depot

here are some better pics
is the storage a good idea, i figure that space is being wasted.
which light would you prefer for veg

DIY is the best
what do yall think about my equip i am picking out

one added thing i think for my bud dryer is you can put your baby in there for the 24-72 hr dark period before chopping to increase thc. chop then hang in the same area and it wont affect the flower chamber and it would take care of the smell while in dark period

instead if iguana mix from advanced im goin to try their mother earth tea ferts
what would be the best soil mix ferts dosage to use when using liquid ferts too

thanks rippin the bong
:stoned::rastasmoke::smokin:

you dont necassarly need to section off your cloning area from your veg as its probably going to be on the same light cycle anyway and may give you some more options on lighting.
you should try to use atleast 50 watts per sq ft of hps lighting for your flower room once you determine the size of the flower room.

the flower room is 50 wpsf
thanks for the input

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Originally Posted by bejay

you dont necassarly need to section off your cloning area from your veg as its probably going to be on the same light cycle anyway and may give you some more options on lighting.
you should try to use atleast 50 watts per sq ft of hps lighting for your flower room once you determine the size of the flower room.

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I disagree with this. The environment in the cloning section should be less light and more humidity. Same light hours as veg but less light intensity.

JMO

PC :smokin:

Texas - Your plans look good! :thumbsup:

Do all of your intakes have fans?

PC :smokin:

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Originally Posted by PharmaCan

I disagree with this. The environment in the cloning section should be less light and more humidity. Same light hours as veg but less light intensity.

JMO

PC :smokin:

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so you don't just use the little plastic greenhouse things like everyone else???? i just put mine in one of those and off to the less lighted corner, made especially with clones in mind

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Originally Posted by HighTillIDie

so you don't just use the little plastic greenhouse things like everyone else???? i just put mine in one of those and off to the less lighted corner, made especially with clones in mind

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I use the plastic greenhouse thing. But then I put it in a special clone box, which is warmer and more humid and has less intense light than the other grow areas.

PC :smokin:

yes every intake will have a diy light proof pc fan intakes w/ 120mm 90cfm fans
clone chamber under 24 hr light
vegg chamber under 18/6 hr light
is that right, or can clones go good under 18/6 hr light?

i think it would be better to have seperate clone chamber because what pharmacan said about the humidity and lighting, but thank you for input

it would be less work to have just 1 vegg chamber

dont really see the need for it a humidity dome raises your humidity and a heat mat placed under the propagation tray provides a warmer environment and may increase his clone success rate but isnt necassarly needed, and seeing how hes using flourecent lighting in the veg area any way, its not to intense for cloning and you could even use a small hid if its far enough away.

i dont want to use another small hid in veg because of temps/dont want to use another exhaust fan.

i want to accomplish atleast 18-20/000 lumens in veg chamber

whats best light for clone 18/6 or 24/0

thanks for the advise

I use 18/6 while others, who are also very successful at cloning, use 24/0. Both seem to work quite well. Pick one and see how it works for you. :thumbsup:

PC :jointsmile:

you can use 18/6 or 24 it really just comes down to which ever you preffer, im not really going to go into the pros and cons of each one but will say both light cycles are widely used in cloning and veg with no problems.
you could try each one and make your own decision or you could just pick one.

i think ill try both light cycles in clone chamber to see which one ill do better with
the vegg chamber is goin to stay 18/6 to use less power, even though the amount i am goin to use in the vegg chamber wont amount to that much
time to wake n bake as i take hits from the bong

There's a very interesting discussion going on here: http://boards.cannabis.com/indoor-gr...5-vegging.html

about 24hr vs 18hr for the clones. It's making me think about going 24 hrs with my clones.

PC :smokin:

do yall think i should use 90cfm intake fans or keep it a passive intake
one reason i think it would be good for intake fans is to act like wind instead of using a regular fan in the box
time to hit some hindu kush from the bong

would probably use passive intakes wherever possible like the flowering room.

i just got this 4ft oscolating fan at wally world for 30 bucks brand is aloha breeze. it has all the bells and whistles. i think it will be a good fan the fact it is almost the same height as the flower room. :stoned::stoned:

my diy bubble cloner

3 air stoners from wally world $2each
28 qt container from wally world $3
1 30-60 gal tetra whispers air pump from wally world $22
25' tubing from wally world $3
1 way check valves from wally world $2each
package of t fitting for air valve from wally world $2
great stuff water/air resistant foam spray $5
ultra flat black spray paint for container $3

first i super glue the 3 air stoners to the 28 qt container.

second i cut tubing to right length

third i connect all the air hoses i just cut to the t fittings and the air stones.

tomarrow i will finish up my little project when i get my tools from the shop, i hit the bong and get alittle shut eye

thank for the info and patients
peace as i hit the bong:stoned::smokin::stoned:

Texas - when I tried hooking multiple air stones to a single pump/line, it didn't work. You should test your system right away - you may need to exchange that pump for a multiple outlet one.

I'm using that same fan. It's ok but it doesn't blow near hard enough so I'm using a 12" oscillating fan along with it.

PC :thumbsup:

hey pc the air pump is a dual outlet pump designed for 60 gal tank, i will text tonight
thanks for the info

about how long should i make my carbon filter 8" outside diameter and a 5" inside diameter instead of 6" diameter. i just cant figure out how long to make it
thanks for the advice
and it time to hit the bong

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Originally Posted by texas grass

about how long should i make my carbon filter 8" outside diameter and a 5" inside diameter instead of 6" diameter. i just cant figure out how long to make it
thanks for the advice
and it time to hit the bong

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Mine is 8" x 6" and about 24" long. But I bet you could get by with one-half that length (12") cuz 24" is a pretty big filter.

PC:smokin:

how long do you think it will remove the smell
instead of using 5" inside diameter i may go 4" inside diameter
i am hoping to make a filter that lasts atleast 1-2 yrs
thanks PC you have been real helpful on your advice

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Originally Posted by texas grass

how long do you think it will remove the smell
instead of using 5" inside diameter i may go 4" inside diameter
i am hoping to make a filter that lasts atleast 1-2 yrs
thanks PC you have been real helpful on your advice

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You are welcome!

Somewhere along the line, on the filter, you are going to get to the point of diminishing returns as the increasing thickness of filter restricts air flow. In that respect, longer would probably be better than thicker.

And, anyway, the fucking filter only costs about $25 - $30 so save your pennies and six months from now build a second filter and when the first one goes bad, replace with the second and then you only need to refill the used filter and hell, with a minimum of effort you can be in filter heaven for the forseeable future. :jointsmile:

PC :stoned:

i am goin to build 3 or 4 of them 1 or 2 spare, one for my seperate bud dryin room and one for the flower room. ive already got the material for 2 of them except the ac.all the local stores were out of it.
good thing i still have some time before i start my project completely, i want to get everything gathered and made so when my home is done all i have to do is build the closet and start germinating.

does anyone know how to prevent pollen coming through a a vent through a vent(i want to expell the air from the clone and veg room to the flower room through the floor)

i got my carbon filter most the way done, need to clamp and fill with carbon

i bought my drying cab from the depot(23"w 15"d 34"h). i need to seal it. im goin to use the dry cab as a veg cab til i get my house and other cab built(hopefully in little more than a month)

i decided to go with floros for veg(around 20000 lumens) and clone(round 6000 lumens) but stay with the digi 600hps for flower(goin to buy that nextweek)

i got my light fixture at the depot for 10 bucks apiece(fixture is for a fan) and the wireable xtention cord for 6 bucks

Just a thought,when building anything be sure you can get it through the door of the room you are putting it in.I builded a sewing cabinet for a lady and didnt measure the door opening.So I had to go back and cut the thing in half to get it though the door.I think you will do just fine with your build.PEACE

Heres a cross cut veiw of a vent that works great.You can even make it out of cardbroad.I have two of them in my closet door,one at the top and one at the bottom.PEACE

i got another light set in the box and the box painted white, need to run the foam weather strip and get a lock for the box.

all the lights are 26watt with a even mix of bulbs for right now.

the soil i bought was scotts organic blend with peat moss(1cf) and a bag of perilite(8L). got some superthrive, bone and blood meal but not goin to mix in for seedlings.

im goin to try(quart size) Genesis Formula for my liquid ferts. the micro base, grow#1, and bloom#3

im goin to get eBay Store - growrite: Grow Bulbs, Compact Fluorescent Grow Kits, Complete Grow Light Kits
the 600hps digital ballast fcc and ce and produce no rf interfierence, they have 2 yr warranty and polished ss hood instead of alum. very good price.

ferts and light are being ordered this week:D

time to hit the bong peace:stoned::smokin:

i got the cab sealed

i got 5 seeds in napkin in a warm place with water and 1 drop of superthrive for .5 gal(on my battery backup for pc). will check tomarow afternoon

went to the garden ridge and got some pots
also got the 600 and the ferts ordered from the places mentioned above(ferts from Hydroponics, Complete Lighting Systems, CO2 Testing and Generating Kits. Solar Shuttle, Hortilux and Agrosun Bulbs.)

i saw a good link for dark room louvers
Fans/Air Control
, but might try to make thanks for the diagram crazywill.

will try to get pics of finished bubbler

need to finish carbon filter

need to hit bong again and again again again hell just dont stop.

:stoned::stoned::smokin::stoned::D

i think i got an idea and am goin to make a custom floro hood out of 1/4" mirror polished aluminum finish(for my veg chamber ofcourse:stoned:). need to figure out what type of fixtures i want to use(i already have 2 60watt 3 bulb fixtures for $10). ill prob get 1 more fixture or have a total of 9 floro bulbs.

any other suggestions would be appreciated

discountgarden.com did not have the micro base part of the genesis ferts and said they were havin a hard time gettin ahold of the company. i asked them what they recomended for a 3 part and they pointed me to to general hydroponics floro series and i also got some of earth juices clone gel. hopefully ill see the light and ferts next week.
im bout to check the seedlings to see if any sprouted and to let breath

Heh, crazywill, I did in fact just build a cabinet I can't get through the door. Fortunately for me, I built it in the room where I want it to stay forever. It's okay to build it too big to get through the doorway, if it's where you want it to start with. ;)

just had 1 local shoreline seed cracked and showing good signs of health(put in soil)
had 1 local sunkist seed crack but not showing yet, it will prob be ready tonight or tomarrow morning. sofar it looks like 2 out of 5 sofar and in 2 days:thumbsup:.