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I hate it when I see these confused teens :confused: and preteens stuggling to find themselves because their mind is tainted with all this religion bullshit. I think they all should start off Atheist and try to find what fits them best instead of being told what to believe. How will you raise your kids? Will you make them follow the religon you do? What do you think of what i just said about starting them off Athiest? That's what I want to do when I have kids. What about you? :)
Well if I have kids I would like them to believe in God. But the choice is ultimately up to them. My rents never pushed any god stuff in my face. Hell we never went to church or read a passage out of the Bible. But things have happened in my life, that makes me believe that God does exist and sometimes just sometimes he anwers some people's prayers
You miss the point, Belleza. being brought up in a religious framework is just another was to transmit tradition. I'm not a religious person by any stretch of the imagination, but my family is Catholic, and I don't eat meat on Christmas Eve and Good Friday, I celebrate Christmas and Easter, I have almost like 2 birthdays, one my actual birthday and one on the saint's day for whom I am named.
I don't believe in it, but it's tradition, and that's why I embrace it.
shoot... you started your post with......... "you missed the point" : (
I respect tradition, but don't you think kids these days grow up following a certain faith then they end up questioning it anyway? I believe there is some kind of higher power but that's because I found it myself. I was supposed to be Catholic but I said "fuck that" lol. My parents just happened to never have time or people to baptize me and im 16 and still not baptized and im glad im not. I think that happened for a reason. I know i was meant to find my spiritual path myself and not let my parents throw me in a Catholic church. They know I don;t wanna be Catholic and i don't give a fuck if it's tradition. Personal spiritual discovery is more important to me than what they used to do back in the day. :)
well i jsut had a kid...not evena month old yet...and yes i will force my religion on him.......lol.......now if only i had a religion to force on him....anwyays even if i did i wouldn't anyways.....
ahh, kids growing up as atheists, only if reason prevails which i doubt.
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Originally Posted by Belleza
I think everyone questions their faith... and that is why some people from christian homes become athiest/agnostic or whatever and some stay christian... I like to think it depends on how much faith the person has... and yes I will force religion down my kids throat until they refuse to goto church like I did... (yet I still hold my christian beliefs)
ok i really don't want to get in a heated religious discussion...but how can you force your kids to take on a religion with no feisable (sp?) proof that such a god exists?
The only thing you can do is teach your kids about your own beliefs, that's part of being a good parent. When they get old enough to understnad these things, of course they will question, and then they will make up their mind, that's the way it has worked for hundredds of years. My parents brought me to Church, my father is quite the religious type, but neither of them ever shoved anything down my throat. They taught me what they thought was right, and once I was old enough to think about these thingfs for myself, I made my own decision.
I guess I'm trying to say that if children grow up completly atheist, then they wil never have an opportunity to think about spiritual matters, because they never learned how to. Children that grow up within even the smallest and slightest of religious frameworks can formulate their own ideas spiritually much more easily, even if it completely different from the religion they grew up with.
atheist don't believe in God that is what I'm hearing
there is no proff that there is a God is what your saying
but then if there wasn't a God why would the atheists say they don't believe in him
cuzz technically he had to be there before people said they didn't think that he was real???
Good point goose.
I think that christian religin is for geeks.
Would I force my religiose beliefs on my child?
Well in my religion it's manditory to smoke weed so that means my nine month old would have to smoke weed with me. So obviousely I wouldn't make her smoke so I wouldn't force my religious view on her. I don't go to church so she wouldn't get my religion from there. I will show her my beliefs by my example. Not just saying to do good and be nice I will share my religion by doing my religion. I don't know if that makes sense or not but it sounds good to me. I'm sure everyone thinks I'm relgious but I'm not I'm a follower of Jesus Christ religions don't concern me churchs don't concern me only my conscience which I believe to be God/Holy Spirit telling me what;s good to do and what I shouldn't do.
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
you are a soldier for christ but not a follower?
Does that make sense?
Forgive me Larry I messed up. I forgot to put a comma. With the comma does it now make sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by meek mike
I'm sure everyone thinks I'm religious but I'm not , I'm a follower of Jesus Christ..........
Rev. Michael T
Soldier fro Christ
ok...anyone who will raise their kids to follow something other than Christianity and Catholosism?
I would rather my own kids be a leader rather than a follower.
Christainity and Catholosism is a bunch of crap
Why would someone raise their kids to follow crap?
Larry-
Little Larry Boy, someone should raise thier kids to follow crap so they don't end up like you. You know the kind of child that can't come up with any real dialoge and can't even be tolerant of others beliefs. Your funny kid. I bet you think your upsetting me. Sorry to let you down but your comments remind me of my six year old nephew, I feel more pitty for you then I do anger from your childish comments. I hope that you graduate from childhood and can act like an adult one day. Until then, May my Lord bless your night and your day tomorrow. May my Lord watch, protect, and guide you to the inner peace you so need. May my Lord help you in your hour of need since you will most likely push away all the people that would normally help you. May my Father in heaven heal you from all illnesses you suffer from mental or phyical. May my God and creator give you the best bomb buds so you can smoke and feel his presence in your life. May my Lord grant you every thought and wise for happieness. May my Lord Bless you this weekend and every weekend. May my Lord open your eyes to his Love and forgiveness that have been there at your feet. Peace be with you Larry.
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ the one that Loves Larry
Mike if you can't follow my dialoge you are stupid as shit.
Your dialoge is the crap that is hard to follow, it doesnt even make sence
half the time.
Hi Larry! Another big ole Geek here! lol Haven't seen ya in a bit and wanted to say hi. This is one Geek that thinks you're okay, and not to be an ass or anything (though I can be, lol), but I ask for blessing for my friends, and guess what? You're someone I do ask God to send much happiness. And this has nothing to do with other peoples stuff, just good wishes for ya, Kuu
May the Mother Goddess bless you with the ablility to know that Christ is dead. Just like everyone will eventually be. May the Goddess help you understand that the higher powers are not all about love and forgiveness. How do i know that, you ask? Well, doesn't everyone ask themselves at one point in time: "if god loves me, why is this happening? what did i ever do wrong?" the question that should be asked is why are they thinking that god loves them? how the hell would they know if all this bad shit is happening to them? right? The God and Goddess have their ways of balancing things out just right. it's people like you (mike) who make the others feel like they are supposed to do one thing. May the Goddess help you not be an ass with Larry because you don't seem to be very tolerant of his beliefs (hypocrite). May my Goddess take your anger away. May my Goddess bless your beautiful child, for she has given her to you. May the God kick your ass for not stopping to think out side of the "Jesus Christ" religions. We are all children of the God and Goddess. We are no different than Jesus. God bless you. and Larry.
***Blessed Be***
just so ppl won't get pissed: that last post i made was for the "soldier for christ". Love ya mike!
Larry, the only reason you said this:
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Why don't you say something I haven't said already.Quote:
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I didn't say your dialoge is crap or even hard to follow. Your dialoge is very very easy to follow. This is what I had to write about your dialoge:Quote:
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You know real dialoge that makes a clear point not a perfect point but at least an intellegent point that people can think about. Larry, I'm a screen writter as well as a Web Minister. I enjoy dialoge cause it helps me with the dialoge in my movies. I don't get much real dialoge from you cause it always ends up with well:Quote:
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Call me pickey (I prefer Michael) but that isn't real dialoge to me. But of course it could be to someone else. Larry, I'm sorry that we have to bicker like this every post but I will always defend Christians and Christ just like you will always have no tolerance for others beliefs. I hope and pray that one of use one day might have enough strength to change. Either myself change and be more like my name MEEK or myself change and turn the other cheek when someone dis's what I believe. Or you change and be more tolerant towards others that don't believe as you. Most likely I will change but I hope you will as well. Of course Jesus didn't want us to be pussys and take weak dialoge from children that don't know much about life yet so I might not change just yet. Maybe you can help me change and I can help you change but only time and God will know.Quote:
Originally Posted by larry
May my Lord Jesus Christ lead wisdom, knowledge, and understanding your way. God Bless you Larry.
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
Well it's nice that Mike is free to express his opinion. My opinion is that he's a fake Christian that uses religion as an excuse to get high. No Where in the Bible is smoking, or polluting ones body condoned. In the last days there will be many false prophets. This THC ministry is a scam started by a bunch of wanna-bes that wanted an excuse to smoke pot and get away with it. Try being honest with yourself Mike, you like getting high, it is NOT a sacrament any more than a golden calf is a God. I don't preach at people, it's wrong and only drives them away. I like speaking with people in general, if the subject comes up fine but the more you try to force something on another the more likely they will find they do not want to listen. Sis. Kuu
Grace Evangelical College and Seminary
Thank you for all the blessing you have bestowed apoun me. I will accept them with a cheerful heart. Thank you for talking so highly of my daughter. If I could show you a picture you would really think she is beautiful but of course that is either here nor there. Thank you again for the kind words but there is just one thing I didn't get. Can you explain:
The one thing I try to make people feel. If you haven't read any of my post before I will let you know what I've said. I let people know of the offer Jesus gave all man kind. I let people know of the forgiveness and the love God wants to give to all of mankind. I don't try to make people feel anything. I just let people know what I know. If it tuggs at your insides I can't help that but it should make you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Belleza
Thank you again for the blessings and asking for guidance from the one's you follow. I will ask my Lord and savior to watch over you and guide you to inner peace. I will also ask him to give you the three things which are priceless in the world. I also asked Jesus to send them to larry as well but the three things I ask God to give freely and mercefully to you are wisdom, knowledge, and understanding. May my Lord make your day bright and full of joy. May Jesus Christ Bless your life.
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
Mike,
the bible is a story book. whether u like it or not. :) May the Goddess bless you with some spiritual enlightment. :)
Thank you for your post here. I've been waiting for another Chrsitian to bring this subject up. I started one a few months ago but didn't get much reponse. I openly invite you to a debate apoun this subject. I will start a new thread very soon. I do get off work here in 40 min. so I will do it quickly. If you have time to reply to it (read it, it's long) but I don't reply don't worry cause I work all day tomorrow from 7 am till 11pm so any time tomorrow. Anyways I'll start the thread. God Bless.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuulbns
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
I'm gonna take her up on that blessing one day when I feel her presence. Of course my story book God might get jeoluse and stop her from getting any where near me. But if I feel her one day I'll take her and your blessing with a cheerful heart. May my Lord Bless your night and help you sleep with a peaceful heart. God Bless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Belleza
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
if u noticed, i said "people like you" not nessicarily you in particular. followers of christ religions tend to be a threat to other people because not everyone is monotheistic u know. just the majority. ;)
I know all the bullshit you use, "The eating of the bitter herbs", Which does not refer to any specific herb but is a symbol of the bitterness of Pharoahs wrath upon the Israelites. All the word games, translating the word "herbs" is crap. By playing on a cannabis board at work you are essentially stealing (in the form of paid time) from your boss. If you want to speak with someone, go hang out with TheSignalRecievers. Maybe the two of you can go sit on a hillside and wait for the rapture, just don't forget to bring Jesus a joint. False Prophets, in line for the one world church and the nwo. Pharasee.
::clap clap clap:: wow someone really got their point across. good job dude. no offense to mike but, i agree with kuulbns. don't get me wrong i might talk a lot of shit (if u think so) but i do respect christ religions. i just agree with that last post.
Thanks Belleza, I'm glad he's not suckering in many people. guys like him come in here and blow sunshine up your ass trying to impress young or gullible people. George Carlin is an ordained minister, (he's also in rehab right now for addiction to painkillers and wine, but at least he admits he gets high because he likes to. :D
yeah u gotta give the carlin guy some props.
Kuu im a christian myself... and I am curious what verse in the bible says smoking marijuana is bad?? I know which one you are going to say I just can't quote it myself... once you give it i'll tell you what I think it means. Also Belezza.. I have a question... your 16 years old... you haven't even lived half your life yet... so how do you tell grow adults who have life and religious experiences that there God is dead? Also, I don't know if you notice it... but befoer you enter the religious forum it says to be respectful of other peoples religions... which you are not. Also blasphemy is the one sin God does not forgive.. you should think about what you say... you might change your mind later...
Hi French, sorry I started to send you a reply, somehow I erased it. It's very late here. When I hit submit reply it disappeared! lol I will try again another time, and thanks for the post. Kuu
FrenchInhale,
i didn't say their God was dead, i said Christ was dead. you can quote me on that one. if i'm not mistaken, Christ is supposedly the son of god, isn't he? he did die on the cross didn't he? And plz don't throw the fact that i'm 16 in my face. don't judge me like that.Me being 16 has nothing to do with what knowledge i have. in the earlier posts mike was talking crap to larry, calling him a kid. They are older gentlemen but still do the namecalling thing. if u ever find a post where i did that (if i was or wasn't stoned) plz let me know. I respect all religions. did i do or say something blasphemous? wutz ur definition of blasphemy? i have my own beliefs, so just because i'm not Christian like most on here, have some respect for my thoughts. :(
***Blessed Be***
How easy it is to jump to conclutions when you really really want to prove a point. Kuulbns, before saying such a thing you should ask. If you look back at other posts by me I explain that my boss does know I as you call it play on cannabis board. My boss knows the person I am and knows I witness everywhere and to everyone. I have full permission from her. But thanks for playing. Oh and by the way, did you see any bible verses in my debate thread about any herbs plants. Yeah, I didn't think so. Much Love my Christian sister. God Bless you and I hope your having a delightful Sat. morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by kuulbns
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
You did say people like me. If you notice the words you use like meaning same as. Not only that but you point me out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Belleza
You single me out putting me in the same catergory there for your top statement is a lie casue you do indeed mean me particularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by belleza
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
i totally agree... i wasnt christened, my parents never made me go to church, and i am glad. sometimes i wud volentarily go to church for christmas for the whole atmosphere thing n to see wot its all about... im not a believer, but i accept that god maybe/was real. i believe jesus was real, totally, but i dont think we should all have to revolve our life around a book...Quote:
Originally Posted by Belleza
when i have kids im not ging to force any religeon onto them... if they want to follow a religeon, then that is their decision.
"...god is the peoples opium..."