Path I follow.

I follow a certain path that cannot really be defined as a religion because I do not worship a higher being or deity.

1. Respect not pity or weakness, for they are a disease which makes the strong sick.
2. Test always your strength, for therein lies success.
3. Seek happiness in victory - but never in peace.
4. Enjoy a short rest, better than a long.
5. Come as a reaper, for thus you will sow.
6. Never love anything so much you cannot see it die.
7. Build not upon sand, but upon rock And build not for today or yesterday but for all time.
8. Strive ever for more, for conquest is never done.
9. And die rather than submit.
10. Forge not works of art but swords of death, for therein lies great art.
11. Learn to raise yourself above yourself so you can triumph over all.
12. The blood of the living makes good fertilizer for the seeds of the new.
13. He who stands atop the highest pyramid of skulls can see the furthest.
14. Discard not love but treat it as an imposter, but ever be just.
15. All that is great is built upon sorrow.
16. Strive not only forwards, but upwards for greatness lies in the highest.
17. Come as a fresh strong wind that breaks yet also creates.
18. Let love of life be a goal but let your highest goal be greatness.
19. Nothing is beautiful except man: but most beautiful of all is woman.
20. Reject all illusion and lies, for they hinder the strong.
21. What does not kill, makes stronger.

I will not mention the path I follow but if there are others interested please speak up.

This is definitely not for the weak.

that path seems a little cold for me

what if you break one of those rules?

Nothing happens of course. I would need to understand why I break this rule or have difficulty with it and make the best attempt possible at following it.

This is just necessary for me to better myself, and eventually become quite a strong person Mentally, Physically and Emotionally.

do we really need a discussion about how to be emo on the spirituality board? Shouldn't this be posted in the lounge? Or on some other website board for runny-nosed teens?


PureEvil, if you happen to get to this thread, check it out: Somebody else who thinks that by using language like "thus" and "therein" you can more easily control sheep...

I'm quite curious actually. Please elaborate on this path further.

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

do we really need a discussion about how to be emo on the spirituality board? Shouldn't this be posted in the lounge? Or on some other website board for runny-nosed teens?


PureEvil, if you happen to get to this thread, check it out: Somebody else who thinks that by using language like "thus" and "therein" you can more easily control sheep...

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This is actually not anything like an Emo person lives. And when you come to the conclusion that this is similar in anyway, I would also come to a conclusion: That you are highly distorted in the way you perceive mainstream culture.

These 21 Points are essentially how you achieve greatness on a path that is much to difficult to follow for 85% of the population that treads this earth.

A small amount of elaboration.

Genuine --- are at the sharp end: they act. They strive for and implement their personal Destiny and they work for the fulfillment of sinister strategy. That is, by their lives, by their ways of living, they actively aid the creative forces of Darkness. Or, expressed another way, they do the work of the Prince of Darkness.
In contrast, the dabblers, the pseuds, keep themselves secure in their imaginary and fantasy â??Satanicâ?? worlds - with correspondence, meetings, conclaves, discussions; with performing and writing/reading about worthless Occult rites; with their babbling about their pseudo-mystical fantasies.
A ---- will be living ---- - and will therefore be dangerous, in the real world. They will do Satanic deeds rather than just talk or write about them. He or she will be, for instance, disrupting society in a practical way, or working to actively create a new, revolutionary society which is more Satanic. They might be real heretics - fighting against the State either politically or via armed warfare if that State (as most Western ones do) upholds the Nazarene sickness of spirit (evident in modern political ideas like â??liberalismâ?? and â??humanismâ?? and â??equalityâ??: the triumph of the worthless at the expense of the noble). Or perhaps they will be aiding the collapse of such a State, and fostering a reaction, by morally undermining it, for example by dealing in drugs or pornography. Or maybe they will be teachers in influential positions, subverting others in secret towards ---- or those transient forms ---- often assumes to gain control and influence. Or they might be actively culling the worthless, the scum - by being a vigilante, or a zealous, honourable Police Officer â?¦


A small amount with the actual Path name tooken out. By mentioning this name, this will of course sway people away.

Just to clear some things up.

This is not terrorism in any way, and I do not wish to create enemies. I am here to learn more about Cannabis, Which I do not consider a drug etc.

I was intrested in several points I read. However the 2nd part leads me to believe this is more than just principles to live by.

When you speak of these disruptions, what do you expect to be accomplished?

If you followed all these principles to the T, this would essentially be a decree of a warrior. Which would lead me to believe, what is the purpose? What are you fighting for?

These principles to live by are just a small part of the whole picture. I do not have time to elaborate effectively on your questions at the moment. When I do, perhaps later on tonight, I will.

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Originally Posted by BlackImperialBlood

I follow a certain path that cannot really be defined as a religion because I do not worship a higher being or deity.

1. Respect not pity or weakness, for they are a disease which makes the strong sick.
2. Test always your strength, for therein lies success.
3. Seek happiness in victory - but never in peace.
4. Enjoy a short rest, better than a long.
5. Come as a reaper, for thus you will sow.
6. Never love anything so much you cannot see it die.
7. Build not upon sand, but upon rock And build not for today or yesterday but for all time.
8. Strive ever for more, for conquest is never done.
9. And die rather than submit.
10. Forge not works of art but swords of death, for therein lies great art.
11. Learn to raise yourself above yourself so you can triumph over all.
12. The blood of the living makes good fertilizer for the seeds of the new.
13. He who stands atop the highest pyramid of skulls can see the furthest.
14. Discard not love but treat it as an imposter, but ever be just.
15. All that is great is built upon sorrow.
16. Strive not only forwards, but upwards for greatness lies in the highest.
17. Come as a fresh strong wind that breaks yet also creates.
18. Let love of life be a goal but let your highest goal be greatness.
19. Nothing is beautiful except man: but most beautiful of all is woman.
20. Reject all illusion and lies, for they hinder the strong.
21. What does not kill, makes stronger.

I will not mention the path I follow but if there are others interested please speak up.

This is definitely not for the weak.

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Im sorry, but that is fucked up. Sounds like K.K.K or some cult....

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Originally Posted by sam44

Im sorry, but that is fucked up. Sounds like K.K.K or some cult....

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I can understand where your coming from, But I can definitely say it is nothing like the K.K.K at all.

At first glance I thought it was a cult too, but in reality it is not there to brainwash you or control you, But let you basically walk the path alone and guide you as necessary. No one makes you do anything or requires donations etc.

One exception to that list for me is that I find many things beautiful, like nature and it's gifts.

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Originally Posted by BlackImperialBlood

This is definitely not for the weak.

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'Weak' and 'strong' are such subjective terms...

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Originally Posted by afghooey

'Weak' and 'strong' are such subjective terms...

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Boy am I going to to have a good time explaining every sentence.

Weak minded and Strong Minded. Strong Willed and Weak Willed... These are not subjective, as this pertains to how much a person can restrain ones self...

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Originally Posted by BlackImperialBlood

Weak minded and Strong Minded. Strong Willed and Weak Willed... These are not subjective, as this pertains to how much a person can restrain ones self...

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All the same... being strong in one way can mean being weak in another.

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Originally Posted by mrdevious

Meh, sounds kinda like Satanism, at least the same mentallity.


I've studied Satanism, and while some people try to purport it's validity as a higher path, it's rather simplistic and pathetic really. Basically a guide on how to indulge your cravings and ego in a somewhat balanced manner.

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You are basically correct other than this is Luciferian Gnosis, crossed with TRADITIONAL Satanism rather. And this is very far from simplistic.

Anton LaVey has no idea what Satanism is and this is how most people think of this. This involves Aeonics and such which is actually quite complicated, along with Scrying etc.

If followed correctly I can say I will be much more of a person than I am today.....

This is ONA form, most Traditional and of course mixing elements of the Luciferian along with elements of Right hand and Left hand path to mantain a balance of the two forces as needed. Using Chaos Magick etc.

Now if any of you understand me than so be it for most... Learn before you judge.

You can call this whatever you please and label me as you like for it does not affect anything but you and other minds still being molded. Whilst you do this, I follow my path to self enlightenment, enjoying cannabis and it's great affects.

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All the same... being strong in one way can mean being weak in another.

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for some and obviously yourself.

Enough said.

noff said indeed...

its all rather elitist and masturbatory, don't you think?


You probably don't. But then again, your vision is so clear, and your mind so powerful. I guess I'm just too weak to understand.

This path reminds me of samurai. Like, 21 points / 21 points samurai. Are you a samurai?

Elitist, true. Very true.

Masturbation brought into the topic, quite perverted.

You may be intelligent, but to that extent perhaps immature.

I should have known to post something like this here. To many people make it into a game...

well if this is so dumb, you all tell me what you believe and I will try (and probably easily will) to Indulge you in twenty humorous and contradictory things about your wonderful CORRECT beliefs, because mine are obviously not .

come on. all of your 21 points are just ways to get off on yourself. get a girlfriend. Hell, get a boyfriend, whatever you have to do...


I don't know if I have a list of 21 things I believe. I don't really have too many beliefs. I prefer to just ask questions.

Done. Has been done years now.

Get myself off....

Now... Why do you smoke weed... LOLLOLLOLOL

I find the occasional break from reality to be refreshing...

ok....

I do not wish to indulge myself in some kind of online argument. You have no right to go so far as to say get a Girlfriend, Thats strange.

I am very interested in many religions and paths. This satisfies me for the time being, I'm not saying it is the only way. And really if you knew what all of this was about, It is more about restraining yourself from "getting off" to make you a stronger person.

Now if you wish, read this, Make a judgment on what little you know and guarantee yourself thats right. And put me down in some pitiful way. To get yourself off?

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ok....

I do not wish to indulge myself in some kind of online argument. You have no right to go so far as to say get a Girlfriend, Thats strange.

I am very interested in many religions and paths. This satisfies me for the time being, I'm not saying it is the only way. And really if you knew what all of this was about, It is more about restraining yourself from "getting off" to make you a stronger person.

Now if you wish, read this, Make a judgment on what little you know and guarantee yourself thats right. And put me down in some pitiful way. To get yourself off?

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Oh I see the problem. You think masturbatory literally refers to beating off. No, that's not the case. I just don't see any real difference between what you're choosing to believe, and any of the countless beliefs people hold for the purpose of self-gratification. Not that you need gratification, being so strong and all.

As for putting you down... masturbatory? I suppose it would depend on whether or not you think verbal intercourse is possible.

Wow. ok. As if Self Gratification is wrong. It is good, It's the best thing around really, almost everything that exists is made for that reason. If there was none, Suicide would be the way of life. Damn, I suppose you work for 32 charities. Eat hair, and Look at the ground all day.

I'm done with this thread, It was hijacked like normal. Have fun gratifying others all the time.

I truly wonder what Philosophy you study. Some kind where it states gratifying others is enough to gratify yourself?

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I should have known to post something like this here. To many people make it into a game...

well if this is so dumb, you all tell me what you believe and I will try (and probably easily will) to Indulge you in twenty humorous and contradictory things about your wonderful CORRECT beliefs, because mine are obviously not .

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A sense of humor, old sport? But honestly, this path sounds like the way of a samurai. Forge swords of death? I would like to know if that little phrase has any beneficial merit in today's civilized society.

I never said it was dumb, I merely pointed out an allusion directed towards warriors of long past. Personally I am more selfless and dare I say, humble? Nevertheless, I will take you up on your offer.

I am an Atheist. I believe that every religion was created by man for a lack of known purpose in life, by superstition, or by clever individuals who sought after power. I firmly stand behind the facts of the Evolutionary Theory (if you do not think that there are facts behind evolution, I will not even bother trying to convince you), the evidence behind the Big Bang (same here), and also that every religious belief that I have come across is downright ludicrous and delusional.

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Originally Posted by BlackImperialBlood

ok....


I am very interested in many religions and paths. This satisfies me for the time being, I'm not saying it is the only way. And really if you knew what all of this was about, It is more about restraining yourself from "getting off" to make you a stronger person.

Now if you wish, read this, Make a judgment on what little you know and guarantee yourself thats right. And put me down in some pitiful way. To get yourself off?

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I don't think anyone is trying to put you down, they're just asking hard to answer questions about this 'path' you've discovered. If it works for you, then it works, but I really think you will be changing your mind about a few of the things on there as you get a little older and wiser.

Remember, there are literally thousands of different perspectives and ideas to have about life and how you should live it, and everybody that can think for themselves probably has a different one. I don't really agree with your perspective but it sounds alright if you can find happiness in it,

Hey blackimperialblood, can you IM me? Needleincameleye. I want to learn more.

I feel to many emotions. I'm near giving up on the concept of love and optimism. Before, it was okay, but recently too many elements in this world sadden me and I realize it will never change. I feel I'm becoming darker by the day, anger building up inside of me. I need to stop feeling normal emotions. My soul is vanquished.

I need to become emotionally void, and strong. Separate myself from everyone.

Gotta have love man. A girlfriend will help you ease your mind. Its not like everyones a bunch of slap around faggits. Instead of taking that up. I think I'll get back to throwing knives, and pry bars, and whatever other sharp things that are laying around.

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Hey blackimperialblood, can you IM me? Needleincameleye. I want to learn more.

I feel to many emotions. I'm near giving up on the concept of love and optimism. Before, it was okay, but recently too many elements in this world sadden me and I realize it will never change. I feel I'm becoming darker by the day, anger building up inside of me. I need to stop feeling normal emotions. My soul is vanquished.

I need to become emotionally void, and strong. Separate myself from everyone.

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I only use msn messenger at the moment and that seems like an AIM address to me.

some of the points I agree with, like 7, because there is no point in building things that are just going to be forgotten tomorrow, but the majority of the points are something that reminds me of all the pissed off teenagers I know. you probably know what they say,"hate the world, kill 'em all" they soon realize that their views are no way to go through life. Life should be cherished and loved, not looked upon with hate and disgust.

The point that says that man is most beautiful, but woman is better is completely retarded (no offense). Yeah, girls are beautiful and all, but the wonders of 'Mother Nature' far exceed the man made things in this world. Maybe it's just a personal thing, but something so beautiful, so incredible, that provides us with life, day after day, shouldn't be destroyed as man is doing to it.

Another thing that may just be me, but I'd much, much, much, much rather love my life than be great.

and to bongman, wanting to 'stop feeling normal emotions', why? yeah, life gets tough, but it also gets better! remember when you were in elementary school, or middle school or whenever it was when you got your first crush? remember how great that feeling was? could you go through life never feeling that again? what about love to your family? they say love makes the world go 'round, and I'd have to agree... maybe that's just the hippie inside me, or the bud talking...

oh and when you were arguing with poly, and then you ran away from the conversation, it didn't seem to me like you were following your path very well.. it seemed to me like you submitted to him, rather than dying... way to stick with it!

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some of the points I agree with, like 7, because there is no point in building things that are just going to be forgotten tomorrow, but the majority of the points are something that reminds me of all the pissed off teenagers I know. you probably know what they say,"hate the world, kill 'em all" they soon realize that their views are no way to go through life. Life should be cherished and loved, not looked upon with hate and disgust.

The point that says that man is most beautiful, but woman is better is completely retarded (no offense). Yeah, girls are beautiful and all, but the wonders of 'Mother Nature' far exceed the man made things in this world. Maybe it's just a personal thing, but something so beautiful, so incredible, that provides us with life, day after day, shouldn't be destroyed as man is doing to it.

Another thing that may just be me, but I'd much, much, much, much rather love my life than be great.

and to bongman, wanting to 'stop feeling normal emotions', why? yeah, life gets tough, but it also gets better! remember when you were in elementary school, or middle school or whenever it was when you got your first crush? remember how great that feeling was? could you go through life never feeling that again? what about love to your family? they say love makes the world go 'round, and I'd have to agree... maybe that's just the hippie inside me, or the bud talking...

oh and when you were arguing with poly, and then you ran away from the conversation, it didn't seem to me like you were following your path very well.. it seemed to me like you submitted to him, rather than dying... way to stick with it!

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Ok. Thanks for telling me how you like to live.

"but the wonders of 'Mother Nature' far exceed the man made things in this world" Humans are man made?

If you would read back a few posts... I stated that rule, and said basically exactly what you said.

"oh and when you were arguing with poly, and then you ran away from the conversation, it didn't seem to me like you were following your path very well.. it seemed to me like you submitted to him, rather than dying... way to stick with it!"

ok?

I think Mavericks right, you're totally my bitch now... :S2:

jk, please chill out, I realise I have a fairly confrontational style, it's kinda just who I am, please don't take it personally.

In all fairness though, I would love to hear how

"he who stands upon the highest pyramid of skulls sees the furthest"

isn't kinda emo. Maybe not emo in the "my girlfriend left me so I cut myself" kind of way, but rather in the "I claim to be a non-conformist by using dark imagery, like all the other non-conformists out there" sort of way. It's cool if that's your style. Sure, skulls are real cool. But there's a thread of elitism in there I still don't understand the justification for. As if only 15% of the population is strong enough to talk about skulls and forging blades of death. 100% of the human race could do that. Talk is cheap.

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

"he who stands upon the highest pyramid of skulls sees the furthest"

isn't kinda emo. Maybe not emo in the "my girlfriend left me so I cut myself" kind of way, but rather in the "I claim to be a non-conformist by using dark imagery, like all the other non-conformists out there" sort of way.

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I would really say it was emo. It's more Goth. But really it's neither because Satanism (broad term) has been around a lot longer than goth and emo culture and has influenced both.

no, humans aren't man made, obviously... I was just saying that the beauty of natural things exceeds the beauty of things that we made. there are many things much more beautiful than man that are also natural, that man kills every day.

oh, and I was telling you how I like to live in hopes that you would (probably easily) indulge me in twenty humorous and contradictory things about my wonderful CORRECT beliefs. I was also telling you about what I feel about your beliefs, because, I assume, that's why you made this thread, since that's kinda what forums are for...

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I would really say it was emo. It's more Goth. But really it's neither because Satanism (broad term) has been around a lot longer than goth and emo culture and has influenced both.

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"Wouldn't" you mean?

I guess I was appealing more to the spirit rather than the individual flavor.

In which case, you can't get more emo than satanism.

Maybe not. Whatever. Seems like I'm the only one who thinks I'm saying anything.

Ok... Emo people cry about their life, say people hurt them and think the world is against them..

This leads you to take advantage of life, hurt people who hurt you. We, in fact, are against the world.

That statement only means he who exists with the most pride, achievement etc., can see the furthest in life..

If this still seems emo than ok, Does not matter to me because I live for myself and really don't care to much about what others say. I do want others to take this how it is meant to be taken. Not confusing this statement with Taking Back Sundays kind of life style.

Thanks.

Sorry but all of that seems pretty weak.
1 - There may be power in weakness and it is only through weakness that you may gain that specific power. The "strong" are not as strong as you seem to think and that itself is an illusion.
2 - Being open to giving up your strenth will expand it much more quickly than using it.
3 - ..3 is just wrong.
..meh i dont feel like doing all of them.