Lieberman: Bomb Iran If It Doesn't Stop

(CBS) The United States should launch military strikes against Iran if the government in Tehran does not stop supplying anti-American forces in Iraq, Sen. Joe Lieberman said Sunday on Face The Nation.

"I think we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq," Lieberman told Bob Schieffer. "And to me, that would include a strike into... over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers."

The Indepedent former Democrat from Connecticut said that he was not calling for an invasion of Iran, but he did say the U.S. should target specific training camps.

"I think you could probably do a lot of it from the air, but they can't believe that they have immunity for training and equipping people to come in and kill Americans," Lieberman said.
Lieberman: Bomb Iran If It Doesn't Stop, Conn. Senator Says The U.S. Should Strike If Tehran Keeps Helping Anti-U.S. Forces In Iraq - CBS News

I agree with ol' Joe, if they want to have actions that amount to an undeclared war........bomb their asses.

Have a good one!:s4:

"we have good evidence "

...only if it's as good as Iraq's WMD and yellow cake evidence!

Unlike the WMD's we have found many IEDs with Iranian markings.

Gates: Iranian Weaponry Found In Iraq

Have a good one!:s4:

From that article..

" "pretty good" evidence that Iranians are providing either weapons or technology for militants there,.."

"Pretty good" evidence.. ROFL! Show the American public 100% without a doubt evidence and not some 50/50 bullcrap! Someone uses radio shack parts in in IED doesn't exactly make radio shack guilty..

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Radio Shack material with Iranian markings? Come on dude.......

Have a good one!:s4:

I remember that article a while back. Then the white house stopped talking about it one day like it never happened. I don't doubt Iran is guilty of something, its just after all the lies about Iraq how can anyone even believe these guys. I want to see EVIDENCE and not just be told "it is so"... That would sound like a truther preaching Alex Jones ontop a mountain.

Cameron reported Bush claim that Iran sent IEDs to Iraq, omitted that Gen. Pace said U.S. has no proof
Summary: Fox News chief White House correspondent Carl Cameron repeated President Bush's claim that Iran has helped Iraqi insurgents build deadlier improvised explosive devices (IEDs), but omitted the fact that Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said that there's no proof to back up such a claim.

All I can say is that they'd better figure it out fast on where these are coming from and nip it in the bud! Half of our people injured/dead is because of these IEDs.......I don't think that there is a factory in Iraq putting out this type of highly technical device that is being used today against our people.

Have a good one!:s4:

They are fighting us in iraq so they don't have to fight us at home. Sound familiar?

Do you honestly think America could hold another front on the GWOT? We're already facing shortages stateside with the national guard, and we want to add another conflict?

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All I can say is that they'd better figure it out fast on where these are coming from and nip it in the bud! Half of our people injured/dead is because of these IEDs.......I don't think that there is a factory in Iraq putting out this type of highly technical device that is being used today against our people.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Man you are sure programed. The first thing I'd question is the validity of that turncoat Joe Lieberman, Democrat my ass. That guy is more repube than Judiani. Reports of Iranian hands on IEDs, questionable at best. And so what. If the Russians invaded Canada, don't you think we'd help out the Canadians, try to kill as many Russians as we could without actually using our troops. You must remember, we have not had diplomatic relations with Iran since Regan. If we did, Maybe we could just contact them and tell them to stop. Here's the real deal. The shiites in Iraq are well connected to Iran. Sadam kept the lid on all those crazy mullahs. We removed Sadam and opened Pandoras Box. Diplomacy is the only answer. An escalation of violence will only create more division and chaos. Grow up. This isn't schoolyard justice, my dick is bigger than your dick doesn't work in the international arena, especially when the opponent is ready and willing to die. If you want to see the "RE-VAL", you better hope for a diplomatic solution, Bombing Iran will surely sink the deal!

We gotta keep in mind that Iranain markings on munitions isn't proof of Iranian government involvement. I've said it before and I'll say it again, we justify violent bullshit by generalizing millions under a common label, in this case "Iranian". The government may be involved, but thus far we have no proof; it could just as easily be some decenting officers, or munitions warehouses, or independant militias secretly supplying the Iraqi insurgency. But as usual, people see the markings of "Iran" and think no further than "Iran".

Isn't it great putting one face on a complex situation? Makes it so much easier to figure shit out.

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We gotta keep in mind that Iranain markings on munitions isn't proof of Iranian government involvement.

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So if shit started blowing up in Tehran with U.S. markings on them we could just deny it and it's all yippy skippy? Cool! So all we need to do is find a good Iranian insurgent group and fund the hell out of them.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

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This isn't schoolyard justice, my dick is bigger than your dick doesn't work in the international arena, especially when the opponent is ready and willing to die. If you want to see the "RE-VAL", you better hope for a diplomatic solution, Bombing Iran will surely sink the deal!

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The problem is that they're taking "enzyte for Allah".....now they got it in mind that they do have the bigger dick.

Have a good one!:s4:

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So if shit started blowing up in Tehran with U.S. markings on them we could just deny it and it's all yippy skippy? Cool! So all we need to do is find a good Iranian insurgent group and fund the hell out of them.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

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Yippy skippy? Not exactly that black and white. Whether it be Iranians or Americans that commited the above mentioned act, you do need to check who was involved and if it was government sanctioned. If the American government said "no, we didnt' do that, somebody hijacked our munitions", you call for an investigation! Otherwise any terrorist or militia based asshole could send 2 nations to war without their governments even initiating the conflict! Could you imagine?


Peace man

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Yippy skippy? Not exactly that black and white. Whether it be Iranians or Americans that commited the above mentioned act, you do need to check who was involved and if it was government sanctioned. If the American government said "no, we didnt' do that, somebody hijacked our munitions", you call for an investigation! Otherwise any terrorist or militia based asshole could send 2 nations to war without their governments even initiating the conflict! Could you imagine?


Peace man

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I think that one has been done already,~LOL~

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I think that one has been done already,~LOL~

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But it's not an acceptable or condoned practice, right?

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But it's not an acceptable or condoned practice, right?

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Not by me, but apparently by the current US government!

You just cant bomb Iran and not think of what will happen,Iran will not take that shit.Just what do u think Iran will do if u bomb them?Do u think they will say oohh were soo sorry old mighty America please forgive us.If you think that your in la la land.The first thing they will do is launch their high tech missilies at your fleet and booom dead American sailors everwhere.Then they will cut off your supply lines to Iraq.So if you want a complete fucking mess then go ahead and bomb Iran.Shit your soldiars wouldnt be dying by these IEDs if you werent there in the first place.

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You just cant bomb Iran and not think of what will happen,Iran will not take that shit.Just what do u think Iran will do if u bomb them?Do u think they will say oohh were soo sorry old mighty America please forgive us.If you think that your in la la land.The first thing they will do is launch their high tech missilies at your fleet and booom dead American sailors everwhere.Then they will cut off your supply lines to Iraq.So if you want a complete f*cking mess then go ahead and bomb Iran.Shit your soldiars wouldnt be dying by these IEDs if you werent there in the first place.

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Howdy fishman,

Sounds like yer solution is to surrender,and if ya go ahead and convert to Islam now,yer life may be spared and ya won't have to pay the jizra tax for dhimmini's such as yer self.

In order to cut-off our supply lines,Iran would have to establish air superiority first,which they will never be able to do..and if they attack our fleet,that would be an act of war and we'd open a big fat can of whup-ass on em.

Have a good one ...

The supply line they would cut would be out of the gulf, not in. You don't need air superiority to hit a tanker with a misssile. And perhaps you should edit you're signature to include "unless you're pakistan".

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Sounds like yer solution is to surrender,and if ya go ahead and convert to Islam now,yer life may be spared and ya won't have to pay the jizra tax for dhimmini's such as yer self.

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God damnit Torog, must you take everything to extremes? "He doesn't want to attack Iran? That means he wants to surrender!" Not everybody lives in the black and white world you apparently seem to.

Ever heard of the strawman argument?

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In order to cut-off our supply lines,Iran would have to establish air superiority first,which they will never be able to do..and if they attack our fleet,that would be an act of war and we'd open a big fat can of whup-ass on em.

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You might want to take a second read. He said an attack on your fleet would occure after a declaration of war, not before.

"Do you honestly think America could hold another front on the GWOT? We're already facing shortages stateside with the national guard, and we want to add another conflict?" -Rambler Gambler (sorry i dunno how to quote it all nice yet..hah)

That's why it sucks that your country went into Iraq. There's now a real need for what you guys did, but its being wasted on Iraq.

And to anyone who says don't target Iran..be peaceful...well guess wut..they aren't peaceful. This guy denies the holocaust, murders tourists for taking pictures, and early in his regime he would take a razorblade to the lips of any woman wearing lipstick....and we should leave him alone?? Come on he's fuckin out of his mind people!!!!
I do agree that it wont be easy, and will cause a lot of turmoil if we decide to go after him...but defeating hitler wasn't easy either...it just needed to be done.

Welcome to the forums Freshnugz! I agree 110% with your stance on Iran but fact is that if we didn't go into Iraq....we'd be in the same situation in Iran.

Economically Iran is on the verge of collapse and with the trade embargos it's only a matter of time before something breaks loose. They've neglected their oil/natural gas infrastructure since "79" and their exports are dropping by at least 6% on a yearly basis.

People complain about the strength of the U.S. dollar.....lol, the Iranian Rial trades at about 9,400 to 1 U.S.D.. For being one of the top 5 oil exporters in the world that's rediculous.

Have a good one!:s4:

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(CBS) The United States should launch military strikes against Iran if the government in Tehran does not stop supplying anti-American forces in Iraq, Sen. Joe Lieberman said Sunday on Face The Nation.

"I think we've got to be prepared to take aggressive military action against the Iranians to stop them from killing Americans in Iraq," Lieberman told Bob Schieffer. "And to me, that would include a strike into... over the border into Iran, where we have good evidence that they have a base at which they are training these people coming back into Iraq to kill our soldiers."

The Indepedent former Democrat from Connecticut said that he was not calling for an invasion of Iran, but he did say the U.S. should target specific training camps.

"I think you could probably do a lot of it from the air, but they can't believe that they have immunity for training and equipping people to come in and kill Americans," Lieberman said.
Lieberman: Bomb Iran If It Doesn't Stop, Conn. Senator Says The U.S. Should Strike If Tehran Keeps Helping Anti-U.S. Forces In Iraq - CBS News

I agree with ol' Joe, if they want to have actions that amount to an undeclared war........bomb their asses.

Have a good one!:s4:

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FUCK THAT SHIT, tomorrow I'm 18, and I'd rather not be included in the draft. Maybe we should get the fuck out of their region and maybe they'd dislike us a lot less...Like before bush was in the whitehouse.

funny things is, all we have to do is end the stupid ass fucking war in Iraq and then Irans can kill Iraqs, rather than irans and iraqs killing americans.

Joe dosent have the American people in mind, he's listening to his homeland Israel(dont deny it)this is stupid ....Joe should resign for putting Israel b4 America...


Look. Bush regime commit treason on a daily basis just by staying in our WhiteHouse...I have not heard any truth from this government since it stoled the 2000 election.....Everything they have said been a lie and/or halftruths....i cant believe no1s standing to this government

Thanks for welcome P4B, i always enjoy the informative posts from you.

Markass...it's shitty to be drafted..for sure. But the enemy didn't hate you any less than he did before George W. Bush was in office...that hatred spans a lot more decades.
I'm not saying it's easy. I'm saying that something needs to be done. I don't know what it is, and that's why I'm not president..or in my case Prime Minister.
I can only hope that the leader follows the right path, and keeps the country safe. Cause I wouldn't enjoy living like they do over there..suicide bombings and stuff. It's terrible. Constant state of fear, and that's shitty.:(

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Cause I wouldn't enjoy living like they do over there..suicide bombings and stuff. It's terrible. Constant state of fear, and that's shitty.:(

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MUCH more of that is going on now in their country than was before we went there..our country is very very far from that happening here.

It would make no sense to invade another country over there, let those fucks kill each other out, not kill OUR soldiers out.

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But the enemy didn't hate you any less than he did before George W. Bush was in office...that hatred spans a lot more decades.

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Nonsense. Most of the people we're fighting in iraq didn't hate us before we invaded their country. Most people in iran don't hate us. Yet.

I really think that they hated us before. The middle east has always hated the west, for the difference in culture. They are completely different, and there were terrorist attacks before Bush.
Iraq is a country that was and even now moreso is harbouring those who wish to harm the West.
The hatred between stems from a lot of things. Religion and culture being at the forefront.

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Shit your soldiars wouldnt be dying by these IEDs if you werent there in the first place.

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Funny how the neo-cons seem to completely overlook this simple fact.

People in Iran dont hate America they just want to live like everyone else on this planet.So if you want to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people then go ahead and bomb them and see what happens.Your top Generals have already stated they would quit if bush attacked Iran now doesnt that tell you guys something?Fuck you guys cant take care of a few insurgents with AK47s in Iraq and now you want to bomb Iran,well good luck with that....

HEY Torog what you drinking bro looks good,like your beard to really ZZ top kinda thing going on there.Take care and peace bro.

I just asked one of my Iranian friends who has family over there, she didn't agree.

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Read over what they "actually" stand for once. IF your not of the Muslim faith you should be treated like a pet. You would still have the right to worship your own religion just as long as you were under an Islamic flag and under Sharia Law.

Have a good one!:s4:

I'm guessing they'd still prefer to just live with Sharia law than have America spray bombs over their heads while they sleep though.

In the late 18th century an ill-equiped band of farmers and merchants managed to defeat the world's then greatest super power and drive them from their country, demonstrating that military superiority alone could not defeat determined guerilla fighters on their home soil.

In the 20th century an ill-equiped band of farmers and merchants managed to defeat the world's then greatest super power and drive them from their country, demonstrating that military superiority alone could not defeat determined guerilla fighters on their home soil.

I am speaking, of course, about the American Revolution and the VietNam War.

Are the elected officials in Washington sooooo fucking stupid that they need to be taught this lesson again?

I think we should leave Iran alone. They pose no immediate threat to us and have no capabilities of sending missles our way. If they attack Israel, Israel can take care of itself. Israel might just take out the nuke sites by themselves anyway, so no worries. I'm with the guy that says Iranians would rather live under sharia law than have our bombs raing down on them. I'm pretty sure given a choice, the Iraqis would rather have put up with Sadam then what we've done to them and their country. When Bush says "we've freed the Iraqi people and turned Iraq into a democratic state", I want to puke, that is the bullshit of the century. We've opened Pandoras box and don't know how to close the lid.

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I think we should leave Iran alone. They pose no immediate threat to us and have no capabilities of sending missles our way.

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"No immediate threat" yet........so do we wait and for how long? WW2 was a waiting game on Hitler...we saw what the outcome was there. Now imagine that conflict with Germany and Japan holding nukes.

Have a good one!:s4:

The world is not convinced by America's pre-emptive strike approach, it wasn't convinced before the Iraq war, and it's even less convinced now. America poses an immediate threat to the stability of the world NOW, yet sadly there isn't an even bigger tyranical world super power around to deal with them. I pity the American people if Bush goes ahead with this, and I hope to god we don't get dragged into it like we did in Iraq.

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The world is not convinced by America's pre-emptive strike approach, it wasn't convinced before the Iraq war, and it's even less convinced now. America poses an immediate threat to the stability of the world NOW, yet sadly there isn't an even bigger tyranical world super power around to deal with them. I pity the American people if Bush goes ahead with this, and I hope to god we don't get dragged into it like we did in Iraq.

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I'm pretty sure this would be a unilateral US strike, the rest of the world has had enough of Bush's Bullshit. It'd be a hard sell to get other countries involved in this one. They've seen the lying false flag bullshit and unless threatned by our military will have nothing to do with Iran. You never know what goes on behind those closed doors though, like maybe, hey, you come in with us and we'll give you part of the oil,~LOL~. These idiots in control of our country at present are fairly psychotic, real egomaniacs. The head guy (Bush) is a spoiled rich kid (Father is a Billionaire) that never made anything he ever touched work, and we handed him our government,TWICE. So it's no wonder we're going down the crapper.