Iran president sees "countdown" to Israel's end

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran's president said on Sunday the Lebanese and the Palestinians had pressed a "countdown button" to bring an end to Israel.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who triggered outrage in the West two years ago when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map", has often referred to the destruction of the Jewish state but says Iran is not a threat.

"With God's help, the countdown button for the destruction of the Zionist regime has been pushed by the hands of the children of Lebanon and Palestine," Ahmadinejad said in a speech.

"By God's will, we will witness the destruction of this regime in the near future," he said. He did not elaborate.

Iran often praises the Palestinians for what it says is their resistance against Israeli occupation. Tehran also described the war last summer between Hezbollah in Lebanon and Israel as a victory for the Iranian-backed group.

"If you make a mistake and create another war against the oppressed Lebanese nation, this time the angry ocean of the nations of the region will remove your rotten ... roots from the region," the president said in another speech on Sunday night.

Ahmadinejad's speeches were made ahead of ahead of Monday's anniversary of the death in 1989 of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the founder of the Islamic Republic, whose words Ahmadinejad echoed when he called for Israel to be "wiped off the map".

The president's comments caused consternation in Israel and the West, which also fear Iran is seeking to build an atomic arsenal under cover of a civilian nuclear power programme, a charge Tehran denies.

Although Ahmadinejad has said Iran is not a threat to Israel, Iranian officials have said Tehran would respond swiftly to any Israeli attack. Some analysts have speculated Israel could seek to knock out Iran's atomic sites.
swissinfo - Iran president sees "countdown" to Israel's end

They should have this dudes picture in Websters under Assclown!

Have a good one!:s4:

Someone should really kill that lunatic.

You know..I don't wish to get into the whole Iraq situation here, but this is definitely where America should be stepping in. Unfortunately, with the surge in opposition to Iraq, I fear America will not even give the chance for their president to enter Iran...I think people may feel that Iran is just as off limits as Iraq should have been, although sadly this is not the case...that guy scares the shit outta me...for real.

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You know..I don't wish to get into the whole Iraq situation here, but this is definitely where America should be stepping in. Unfortunately, with the surge in opposition to Iraq, I fear America will not even give the chance for their president to enter Iran...I think people may feel that Iran is just as off limits as Iraq should have been, although sadly this is not the case...that guy scares the shit outta me...for real.

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GOD DAMN there is hope for Canada yet! Welcome to the forums my friend. fishman3811 had me to believe that there was no hope for you dudes but ya proved me wrong.........hopefully with your guidance you can show this dude the TRUE light of Canada!:thumbsup:

Iran wouldn't be a ground conflict.......we'd just bomb the bejesus out of them.

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well, don't get me wrong bud, I hate that your country entered Iraq. I do. HOWEVER, I am smart enough to understand that the situation is serious enough to not cut and run, as the democrats will do. It's weird to listen to myself say this but now, after seeing what has come out of the invasion(the offshoots of terror cells, anti-western sentiment in many areas), I think the job must be finished. I don't believe for one second that your President really wants Iraq to be a prided democracy and because of that he must be some excellent guy trying to help the country...he just is scared that the guys he helped out have turned on him and now he needs to take 'em out before he gets bitch slapped.

Whatever the reasons were that he entered are now irrelevant. The point is he's there. A lot of troops are there. And they have a job to do. If they pull out now, leaving the country more immersed in civil war than ever, what does that accomplish. America might as well but a big fuckin' bullseye in the middle of the country when the democrats get in..cause they think it's terrible and will stop giving it attention...we all know what happens when you just "forget about terrorism"..it strikes your heart. Those who have died, the time and effort into the war...is all for what if America just leaves now? A worse situation. That's bullshit, we know it will get worse if the Americans cut and run, so for the sake of peace, ya might as well finish wut u started. Another discussion you and I could agree on would be can it be done. Is your country's war on terror possible to win? Not with a change in administration who opposes the current direction of things...

But with this new Iran shit, I have to say....jesus god someone do something. He is eerily reminiscent of Hitler, in the sense that the West refuses to take any serious action so as not to be taken aggressive, when really they should. Some shit the West overlooked before Hitler was so clearly obvious, yet everyone "just wanted peace"...well, we know how that turned out.
The instability in our world scares me to death right now. Anyone else?

Iran is no threat to the USA. There are greater threats to us than Iran. I'd put China and Packistan on the top of the list. Musharif is just a sniper shot away from a taliban takeover and china is buying our country with our own dollars. If we had any brains (the Govt.) they would be kissing Irans ass. Iran has a shitload of oil and I'm pretty convinced that if the US govt would kiss up they would gladly come around. To try and take their oil forcefully is the right wing neoconic strategy and as you can see, it would be a fiasco. they have a million man army and would overrun Iraq in a heartbeat, killing every American in country By the time you bombed them back to the stone age, every muslim country in the region would be involved, Isreal would be put to the fire and out would come the nukes. Don't be surprised if a few nukes didn't make it to the homeland, goodby all my millionaire dreams, ~LOL~.

I don't think strategics will so much work with the Iranians. That guy has his own plan, and he doesn't shy away from interference..more alarmingly, he completely disregards opposition. Iran may not be a sole threat to the US...think of the others who may join in...Russia, N.Korea...and pretty much every radical anti-american/western group...oh and the Chinese..Russia and China have shown where their interests lie.
Plus, the Americans would never kiss some other country's ass...especially not Iran

Diplomacy is the only thing that will work with Iran,beating the war drums will not solve anything and as far as bombing the shit out of Iran well if you can live with WW3 then go ahead.I dont want to see a couple of hundred thousand dead Iranians many of them women and children,nor do i want to see that many dead from the west.

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Diplomacy with a country that:
-calls for the annihilation of Israel
-has 17% of it's population on a martyr squad (Basij)
-funds terrorist organizations like Hezbollah

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I[/YOUTUBE]

Have a good one!:s4:

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Diplomacy with a country that:
-calls for the annihilation of Israel
-has 17% of it's population on a martyr squad (Basij)
-funds terrorist organizations like Hezbollah

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I[/YOUTUBE]

Have a good one!:s4:[/QUOTESo I guess you would use option B. Well there goes the neighborhood. No more dreaming about getting rich, eh. If Iran goes postal, you can kiss Iraq goodby and probably your own ass. I can never figure out why talking to your enemies is a bad thing.[color=Red][/COL"To know your enemy, you must become your enemy ... Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." This familiar quote is from Sun Tzu (China - 400 B.C.), author of On the Art of War. OR] ?BTW since you talk about Iran wanting to wipe Israel off the map so much, would you be of the Jewish persuasion?[/COLOR]

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BTW since you talk about Iran wanting to wipe Israel off the map so much, would you be of the Jewish persuasion?

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Swing and a miss........Norwegian/German mix. LOL

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Swing and a miss........Norwegian/German mix. LOL

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Just curious, Myself, Heinz 57, So many different nationalities in the woodpile, couldnt tell you. I think it's call Mutt or something akin. I've hears rumors of English, Irish, and Dutch, But as far as I know they are just Rumors.

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Just curious, Myself, Heinz 57, So many different nationalities in the woodpile, couldnt tell you. I think it's call Mutt or something akin. I've hears rumors of English, Irish, and Dutch, But as far as I know they are just Rumors.

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Yeah....I got a pinch of Canadian/French in me too. DAMN! Can't win em' all I guess.........

Have a good one!:s4:

Canadian french in you wow maybe there is still hope for you after all P4B

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Canadian french in you wow maybe there is still hope for you after all P4B

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I KNEW you were going to say that!:S2:

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P4B come home to your roots youll feel a lot better.We can always use more french men in Canada

Howdy medicinal,

I think that one of the reasons that Psycho4Bud talks about Iran wanting to wipe Israel off of the map,is because the anti-wars have granted moral equivalance to the Iranians and the anti-wars believe that what the Iranians have to offer in return for their support or apathy towards them,is similar in nature to our own form of democracy,where we value individual rights. The distinction between the 2 countries,needs to be made often..next on the list of dmocracies to sacrifice,will be Taiwan..how many democracies must be sacrificed to the jihadists or commies,before the anti-wars realize their mistake in supporting evil over good ?

The best way to git rid of the evil that we face,that is no less than the nazi's and jap imperialists and commies,is to stomp a mudhole in em and walk it dry ! :thumbsup:

Have a good one ... :jointsmile:

TOROG!!! Nice to see ya again brother! I'd imagine your taking on the left in different sites........we gotta spread the word ya know. Nice to see your still in the good fight.....don't be a stranger now!!:thumbsup:

As always.............

Have a good one!:s4:

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Howdy medicinal,

I think that one of the reasons that Psycho4Bud talks about Iran wanting to wipe Israel off of the map,is because the anti-wars have granted moral equivalance to the Iranians and the anti-wars believe that what the Iranians have to offer in return for their support or apathy towards them,is similar in nature to our own form of democracy,where we value individual rights. The distinction between the 2 countries,needs to be made often..next on the list of dmocracies to sacrifice,will be Taiwan..how many democracies must be sacrificed to the jihadists or commies,before the anti-wars realize their mistake in supporting evil over good ?

The best way to git rid of the evil that we face,that is no less than the nazi's and jap imperialists and commies,is to stomp a mudhole in em and walk it dry ! :thumbsup:

Have a good one ... :jointsmile:

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Evil is a phrase bandied about by neocons to purport a necessity to eliminate a country of their choice. If you listen to the countrys that are on the list, they call us the great Satan. These are words of Ignorant war spreading hate filled assholes that want to make money off war. Peace is regarded as the pussies way to solve problems. These assholes are the bullies of the world and will end up being the ones that bring about Armegeddon, or the end of humanity. If you see your future as being in a smoking crater of atomic rubble, then these are your guys, otherwise, we better start electing cooler heads that have some fucking brains instead of no brains and all balls.

I really dont think talking to that guy would do anything. He's pretty dead set about wiping Isreal off the map. So are a lot of the middle east. Thankfully we armed Isreal to the nines haha. But you got to remember, the Iranians are no better than the Nazi's. Actually I believe that the name "Iran" (means "Land of the Aryans").

Iran naming dispute - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I actaully heard on a news broadcast a while back, I forget which one, that the original translation of Ahmadinejad's statement 2 years ago was incorrect. When he supposedly said "whipe Israel off the map", some have argued that the translation was faulty and he was actually saying something more to the effect of "whipe away" the Israeli regime. I don't know if this is correct so don't quote me on it later, but if so it's really no more extreme than the western allied nations talking about whiping away the Iranian regime.

This current statement seems to be of the same effect, referring to removing the current regime and putting in place the "right" one, albeit probably some piece of crap Sharia-law governed state. I've yet to see a direct statement that the Iranian government actually wants to destroy Israel itself, though I wouldn't be surprised if they did considering the terrorist and war efforts they support financially and through munitions. Until we do though, I think we shoul be careful about jumping on any statement and declaring them evil in league with Satan before all the facts are apparents. We do after all, just like in every nation, get fed the view of our (potential) opponents that we're supposed to see, not necessarily the accurate portrayal. Diplomacy should never be taken off the table.

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TOROG!!! Nice to see ya again brother! I'd imagine your taking on the left in different sites........we gotta spread the word ya know. Nice to see your still in the good fight.....don't be a stranger now!!:thumbsup:

As always.............

Have a good one!:s4:

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Howdy Psycho4Bud,

Sorry that I have been a stranger,but like ya say,I've been doing battle at the other usual sites and a patriot and veteran's work,is never done !

Have a good one ! :jointsmile::thumbsup:

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Evil is a phrase bandied about by neocons to purport a necessity to eliminate a country of their choice. If you listen to the countrys that are on the list, they call us the great Satan. These are words of Ignorant war spreading hate filled assholes that want to make money off war. Peace is regarded as the pussies way to solve problems. These assholes are the bullies of the world and will end up being the ones that bring about Armegeddon, or the end of humanity. If you see your future as being in a smoking crater of atomic rubble, then these are your guys, otherwise, we better start electing cooler heads that have some f*cking brains instead of no brains and all balls.

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Howdy medicinal,

So..are ya saying there ain't no such thing as evil ? Or..are ya saying that the enemies that the Free World faces,ain't evil ? I don't need anyone to tell me who or what's evil,I can figure that out on my own and I'd hope that you would as well. For instance,I know that the arabs worked with hitler,in WW2 in North Africa,to help hunt down and slaughter,Jews..the muslim-arabs would be working with hitler still,if they could-but fortunately the generation of that time,recognized the evil that we faced and they went and defeated it. Our brave troops recognize the kind of evil that we are facing at this time and they are trying to defeat it,but it ain't easy with politicians trying to micro-manage the war tactics and Americans that claim that standing up to evil,is evil it's self and so they use every excuse to excuse the murderous,tortorous muslim jihadists and paint our troops as terrorists,instead..talk about bass-ackwards !

Have a good one ...

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Howdy Psycho4Bud,

Sorry that I have been a stranger,but like ya say,I've been doing battle at the other usual sites and a patriot and veteran's work,is never done !

Have a good one ! :jointsmile::thumbsup:

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Being a mod here I'm kind of locked into this site...........nice to see your spreading the truth for us!

Have a good one!:s4:

You're a veteran Torog? That's pretty cool, can I ask what you did during that time, what kind of military you were involved in? (navy, army, marines, airforce, national guard, that sort of thing)

If we stopped giving Israel aid it would solve alot of our problems. Also, I as an American don't give a shit about the asscrack of the world aka the Middle East. I think America should be more isolationist and not give two shits about the rest of the world. More people would have less of a problem with us and we would attempt to reindustrialize the U.S. Bush really did fuck us over with Iraq because it makes more people hate us, waste money, and most importantly waste people's lives. I'm not a liberal, can't stand them. They are complete pussies and a liberal president would be the reincarnation of Neville Chamberlain. I think to have success we need a moderate (or someone with intelligence).

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Not really. That's the official reason for their enemies to be pissed off, but the islamic extremists will always find a reason to hate Israel, especially so long as there's the land disputes between the Israeli's and the Palestinian's. And yes, I think it was totally unjustified that they evicted thousands of palestians and stole their farmland to give it to the Jews but; Now it's just become an excuse for hatred and violence. Everybody body loves to justify themselves with vague societal generalizations by sayinig "the Israeli's did this to us", but lets face the facts, the Israeli's and palestinian's involved in the original seizures are a former generation. The guys fighting now are just creating a common enemy by cultural relation, attributing the wrongs of the past to those who are merely related to the wrongdoers. Palestianian's do have a right to reclaim a lot of their stolen land, yes, but nobody has the right to slaughter inocents because of it.

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Not really. That's the official reason for their enemies to be pissed off, but the islamic extremists will always find a reason to hate Israel, especially so long as there's the land disputes between the Israeli's and the Palestinian's. And yes, I think it was totally unjustified that they evicted thousands of palestians and stole their farmland to give it to the Jews but; Now it's just become an excuse for hatred and violence. Everybody body loves to justify themselves with vague societal generalizations by sayinig "the Israeli's did this to us", but lets face the facts, the Israeli's and palestinian's involved in the original seizures are a former generation. The guys fighting now are just creating a common enemy by cultural relation, attributing the wrongs of the past to those who are merely related to the wrongdoers. Palestianian's do have a right to reclaim a lot of their stolen land, yes, but nobody has the right to slaughter inocents because of it.

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The problem is it is very real when the previous generation is your dads, or uncle or mom, and when your generation, brother-sister-cousin are being killed. I don't know about you, but lets take a hypothetical: The Mexicans have invaded us, that's a fact. They even claim this is their homeland, that's a fact. Now say they start herding us out of our homes and start shooting those that resist, bringing in tanks and helicopter gunships, giving us Sandiego and Santa Barbara counties, and building a wall surrounding us. Then when we fight back with rocks and slingshots they kill our youth and leaders. Now, you have had several members of your immediate family killed, you see an opportunity to kill a few mexicans, what would you do?

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The problem is it is very real when the previous generation is your dads, or uncle or mom, and when your generation, brother-sister-cousin are being killed. I don't know about you, but lets take a hypothetical: The Mexicans have invaded us, that's a fact. They even claim this is their homeland, that's a fact. Now say they start herding us out of our homes and start shooting those that resist, bringing in tanks and helicopter gunships, giving us Sandiego and Santa Barbara counties, and building a wall surrounding us. Then when we fight back with rocks and slingshots they kill our youth and leaders. Now, you have had several members of your immediate family killed, you see an opportunity to kill a few mexicans, what would you do?

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Well personally I wouldn't "kill a few mexicans", but that's just me, probably not most people. These are just my views, but I detest violence when it can avoided, and I truly believe a big part of society's problem with violence, racism, any generalization, is that we attribute the actions of a few to the responsibility of the many just because of racial or national affiliation. The fact is, the people in the 9/11 attacks didn't deserve to die for the actions of American government. The people of Israel don't deserve to die because their government commited a great injustive.

I'm not saying I don't understand it, I'm saying it's not justifiable. We need to start judging people as people, not by their race/nationality/sexual orientation/ whatever else you use to lump the people together. We're always going to keep finding reasons to hate each other, what I'd like to see for once is there being a larger group of people who try to find peace with each other.

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Well personally I wouldn't "kill a few mexicans", but that's just me, probably not most people. These are just my views, but I detest violence when it can avoided, and I truly believe a big part of society's problem with violence, racism, any generalization, is that we attribute the actions of a few to the responsibility of the many just because of racial or national affiliation. The fact is, the people in the 9/11 attacks didn't deserve to die for the actions of American government. The people of Israel don't deserve to die because their government commited a great injustive.

I'm not saying I don't understand it, I'm saying it's not justifiable. We need to start judging people as people, not by their race/nationality/sexual orientation/ whatever else you use to lump the people together. We're always going to keep finding reasons to hate each other, what I'd like to see for once is there being a larger group of people who try to find peace with each other.

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I agree, peace is the answer. But unfortunately, I don't see that happening anytime soon. You have people on this site that want to carpet Bomb the whole middle east, like that will solve the worlds problems. As long as people think that gunboat diplomacy is the order of the day, you can kiss your peace dreams goodby! I have a shitload of guns, not that I want to start a war, but if one comes my way, I'm not going to lie down in the middle of the road. I have at least one for every member of my family, so when called upon, they can defend themselves. I believe in peaceful solutions, But, if you try and impose your will upon me without justification, I will Fight.

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I really dont think talking to that guy would do anything. He's pretty dead set about wiping Isreal off the map. So are a lot of the middle east. Thankfully we armed Isreal to the nines haha. But you got to remember, the Iranians are no better than the Nazi's. Actually I believe that the name "Iran" (means "Land of the Aryans").

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Hey Reb! Just wanted to point out a few historic facts about cursin' a Jew or anyone of Hebrew descent. If you remember the story of Pharaoh of Egypt in the book of Exodus,who ordered the drownin' and later the death of the firstborn,first the males in the Nile River then later the death of ALL the firstborn,the EXACT same thing happen to his son,the Egyptians and all their livestock! In the book of Esther a Persian by the name of Haman wanted to hang Queen Esther's uncle Mordecai and the entire tribe of Judah,all because Mordecai didn't bow to Haman! :rolleyes:In the end,Esther exposed Haman's plot,and HE was hung on the very gallows he prepared for Mordecai and the Jews! Then we have three things we have that occured in W.W.II,first the holocaust,Hitler had 6 million Jews either shot in the head or burned alive! Hitler instead of surrenderin' to the Russians,ordered his body BURNED,took a cyanide pill and SHOT himself in the head! Also when the Jews were surrounded by barbed wire and concrete walls,look at what happened to Berlin! They were surrounded by the same thing! Here's what happens when you BLESS the Jews. America has been a haven for the Jews since they first came in the mid 1600s. At Valley Forge Pennsylvania,George Washington's Continental Army was starvin', outnumbered and FLAT BROKE! A Jew from Philadelphia named Haym Salomon donated $800,000 to the army! Washington was so GRATEFUL for his contribution,he ordered the U.S.Seal to be designed in honor of the Hebrews! http://www.rsu.edu/faculty/phatley/US_Seal.jpg If you look above the eagle's head,you'll see 13 stars formin a 6 pointed Star Of David! Turn the shield UPSIDE DOWN,you'll see the MENORAH (candlesticks) the tail would be the candlesticks on Hannukah! Also the olive branch and bundle of arrows are specifically the symbols of the tribe of Manasseh! He was the 13th of the 12 tribes,Ephraim the 12th,which explains the 13 stripes.olives leaves and arrows! Also look up on google I Chronicles;17:9 and II Samuel 7:10, Genesis;48:16-19 and ;49:22-26!