im wanting to know if i should start my crop out on 12/12 heres a pic info is surely accepted
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im wanting to know if i should start my crop out on 12/12 heres a pic info is surely accepted
can no one offer any help?
its big enough, you could. are there any signs of the sex at the nodes?
i dont really know, could you kinda explain to me where the nodes are? then i could take a pic of em
They are the slightly fatter spot where the leaves grow. In Cannabis, the nodes are where you see the first pre-flowers (translucent WHITE "V"-shaped, thin hairs). There are also some GREEN, thicker protuberances near the nodes- these are NOT pre-flowers. In males, you don't get the hairs- you get flower buds at the nodes. They are football shaped and look nothing like the female's pre-flowers.
Internodes are the stems between the leaves. In males, they tend to be a bit longer than in females, but it is not an accurate way to sex. I play a "guessing game" before the pre-flowers show, using internode spacing- I'm right about 3/4 of the time. Incidentally, females usually take a few days longer than the males to show their sex. So don't get too bummed out when those first few plants tell you they are males- the females are just taking their own sweet time.- Granny:hippy:
i cant really tell so heres a pic or a couple of them to see if you guys could
i dont like to chance on pulling the wrong plants either, but your plant looks mature enough to put into flowering. some say they can tell which sex it is there but i cant tell and wouldnt tell you to make a decision on it that way. i tried to guess before too, and got many right but some wrong, so im glad i didnt yank plants based on that. start flowering id say,and do a search on preflowers/preflowering and see if it helps.
im really new to this, well growing, ive been growing the last three years (its only been three times) the last time i had to cut them down because i got word of someone snitching(aint that a bitch?) well anyways, does budding come after flowering?....would it help any if i used superthrive?
yes, well budding is flowering really. just that some say that when your plants get to a mature age like what you have they can tell if its male/female before actually budding it(12/12) and save the space for only females. did you get a harvest out of any of your grows? i have only grown outdoors 4 times untill this yr.only one was what id call a good one as far as yeild (mostly do to not taking care of them), but they were all good as far as learning and a little smoke. i just put mine into 12/12 4 days ago at about 2 months old. i dont know anything about superthrive, i try to stay mostly organic except a couple of doses of peters while in the vegative stage. this yr i bought wormcastings for veg and bat guano for flowering and i am trying the molasses thing for the soil and to get fatter/fuller buds. what type of light are you using? i started with a 26 watt cfl and vegged for a month under a 150 hps which is what im using to flower too. ill help if i can, but this is my first time indoors. yeah i got scared and had to rip plants once because a roomie left on bad terms and i wasnt sure how he would react, though he was cool.
They need a much bigger pot
They have not gone alternating yet
Time to repot, then give them a little time, it won't be long.
i know they need a bigger pot but i tried to transplant them and the roots were all the way down to the bottom and my friend tried to transplant his that were the same and they all died....no i didnt get to harvest any of the past well in a way i got a harvest last year but nothing that really gave me a buzz, the year before that someone found my hiding spot and snacthed all of them except one that was near a pine tree(cant see how they missed that one since it was easier to spot then the other six)...i know i shouldnt be using this kind of light but im using a incandescent clamp light that i bought at wal-mart for like 5 something and just a 100 watt...as you can see its doing pretty well, i tried a florescent grow light that i bought for like three days and i got tired of it and went back to what im using now and i had to raise the light 2-3 times that day.....whats the deal with molasses?...this is my first indoor too so dont feel to bad
They are going to die if you DON'T transplant them.
Molasses is a carbon source.
Hmm sounds like you are due for a grow area upgrade... next time, individual pots, no incandescents.... and under lights, you want to keep them shorter and bushier for light efficiency.
so you tell me how am i supposed to do that without risking my crop?
if you topped it(take the top set of leaves off to the next node) it would fill out and get bushier, and stay a little shorter.try it next time, it will help some this time too if you havnt started flowering yet. i dont know what your friend did to kill his plant but normally the do need to be transplanted into a bigger pot, and lots of people do it with no ill effects. if you do this, do it before flowering too.like maybe a week to let it recover from the topping and transplanting. good luck with it. just do a lot of reading, you will get lots of info. and not all of it good. but you will see that there are some things that most everybody agrees on.
well the problem my friend had was due to part of the root ball thing breaking on him and him picking at it too much(found that out tonight) well i transplanted them last night into a 42-45 qt tote damn thing took nearly 50 pounds of dirt to fill it good thing that i bought 60, but their looking good, should i still let them go on 12-12?
sorry to repost sooo fast but i just remembered that it was a bitch to get it out of that pot because the roots went from just under the soil to all the way down to the bottom....was very worried about not breaking the roots....took me about half an hour to 45 mins just to get it out
lol, that is like a 10 gallon plus container, which i dont see any problems with though ive never went that big. how big was your old pot? 1 gallon? how tall can you let your plant get? id let it sit for a little while, a few days (week?)to get acustomed to the new container, then yeah go for it, there is lots of root room in there for sure. also, i would definately use your flourescent light, plus the other one if no one else see any problems with it. youll need it to get enough light for budding, if it is a female. thats your only plant isnt it? 50/50 chance of male or female. good luck. think girl ,think girl. the other thing is i dont know what you have been feeding it, but it should have been high in n- and possibly -k but now (in flowering) low n- high p- and low -k for budding. again i would top it before trying to flower it, but thats just me. especially as tall as that might come out and not enough light to bud properly.
p.s. the molasses are for the microbes and benificial bacteria to help the soil, it also has nutrients of its own? plus for flowering it supplys sugar to your plants for hopefully a fatter more filled in bud. 1 TSP a gallon, but i added two, oops. it was pleasant and havnt had any bad effects except my room smelled like a big ginger cookie for a day. you can smell it through the leaves for 2-3 days later. ill definately stop that a few days before harvesting. it was a strange mix of the plant smell and gingerbread. i think illl only use it bi weekly.
i got two of those lights up in my room, so in general i have 200 watts of light on my babies...i know i got one or two females but i aint risking any of them byu killing one or two of them, i know people dont like males but i do know they are still smokable might be less of a high but itll still fit in a paper....to tell you something i only started to grow to see if i could save some money since gas is so damned high...hopefully i can get that high...to answer they can get as tall as 10-12 foot i dont know exactly how big the last pot was but i do know it was no where near to the tote that im using now is...i think i might try molasses..ive been feeding mircale-grow plant food but ive been looking for a 10-30-20 mixture havent had any luck, but today im going to call the farmers co-op and a few other places..i think that the floro doesnt work as good as it should but ill try it
By doing it right next time. I'm not trying to point out the obvious, but here is where reading before you sprout your seeds comes in very handy.Quote:
Originally Posted by sublimebudsmoker
Repotting is not as tough as you make it out to be. Support the main stem, upend the pot, whack the bottom really hard with your palm, and the whole thing should slide right out. It's even easier if you let the soil get a little dry first - it shrinks.
apparently you havent had well rooted plants have you? because if you had you wouldnt be sitting there saying repotting isnt hard you know when you let it grow then put more and more soil into the pot so the root grows from the bottom of the pot to the top of it, another thing if you notice my join date doesnt really give me all that much time to grow big plants like that so even if i have read before this it wouldnt have really helped that much....next time try to be a little nicer maybe more people will actually like you better
Repotting is not hard at all when you have a good growing technique.
Believe me I have had well rooted plants.
I let them get just a little rootbound on purpose so that the dirt ball does not break up during transplant. It comes out as a solid mass of roots.
you are not supposed to keep adding soil to the pot. You should not bury your plant deeper than the node at which it originally sprouted its cotyledons.
I'll post root ball pics tomorrow after I get my camera battery charged. You may or may not wish to look at them however as I am a mean person and if you follow my growing advice, your plants will taste bitter and the high will be unpleasant.
I'm sorry you don't like me. But it's not going to ruin my week.
sure if i dont listen to you my shit will taste bitter...just look at how poor they look, man i dont know how i made it along without you...i dont think that yoiu understand what i was saying about back filling of soil but oh well youre supposed to know everything
Here's a root ball pic- notice how the roots actually hold the soil together as you repot? This is a pretty good stage to transplant at, close to rootbound but not quite there yet.
Backfilling... can you explain what you meant?
listen to stinky and stfu. Don't come on here and ask for help when you're just going to insult the experience of those who try to help. Sorry if stinky was being frank and telling you the truth about this whole situation, grow up, and be grateful for the help.
sorry but who asked you anything?
Good job, I'm going to add that one to my book of awesome come-backs.
I guess I don't like ungrateful little asshat kids asking for help. Are you 15?
sublimebudsmoker are you the same person as this guy? And that other kid from last month?
http://boards.cannabis.com/grow-loun...ml#post1453300
for your info im not 15 im 21 and no im not that other person i just dont like people being little smart asses thats all
I'll bet the little smart asses would worship you as their messiah.Quote:
Originally Posted by sublimebudsmoker
30 - 45 mins to get a plant out of a pot?
That must be some kinda record?
:)
You started growing because gas is so expensive? Whats it cost you an extra 20-30$ per month? lol. I guess that adds up when your working for wendys.
I dont understand how its even possible to kill a decent sized plant transplanting. I used to be super careful but seriously I think you could probably just stick your hand down in the soil rip the roots right out leaving a small rootball and despite this harsh transplant the plant would likely still live lol. Ive accidently broke the main stem, taped it up and the plant bounced right back. It is difficult to kill a cannabis plant in my experience.
The method stinky shows in his pic is the best and easiest way. Drop the attitude and you will get much better responses.
Good Luck!
i didnt have an attitude till stinky was being a bitch towards me, i was just here looking for advice and here he jumps up my ass like i was the new fish and he was bubba
Chill dude. No reason to get mad its just the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by sublimebudsmoker
Good luck on your grow!
Seriously kid, go back through all your posts and see how much help I have given you.
Click on your username and go into find all posts by sublimebudsmoker...
I MUST be a bitch for spending all that time trying to help out. I'm such a bitch that now I am going to go home and beat my dog and throw roundup on my neighbor's lawn.
Your first 'and tell me how am I supposed to do that?' post was pretty polite there big guy... I was being very nice up until you decided to snap at me.
Oh and btw... I'm a chick.
*yawn* this thread REALLY needs to die.
i was just asking since there was 6 plants and there was roots about half an inch under the soil that went all the way down to the bottom, i didnt mean to sound like i snapped or anything i was just asking..
Stinky's correct transplanting is very easy to do. I do it wet instead of dry like she does (I think they slip out the containers better wet) But if those roots are a lil bound they sip out so quick it only takes literally seconds to do a transplant. Hell I recently transplanted my 5+ foot tall plants out of 5 gallon containers into 15gallon ones. Now thats a heavy lifting job. Stinky's got alot of growing knowledge you should be grateful that she took the time to try and offer a little advice / help.
i know but my problem with the transplant was the dirt was a lil compacted it was wet tho but it was compacted...i didnt say that she didnt give me any advice/help it was just a misunderstanding thats all
Try letting it dry out more next time if you are having problems becuase it WILL shrink a little.
Sliding a long thin spatula- like the sort used for frosting a cake- around the inside of the pot might help too, but kind of a last resort. A few good hard slaps on the bottom of the pot is usually all you need. This plant can take some serious abuse.
Oh those pics- the one with the bike in the background is a coco pic and the other is 1/3 perlite 2/3 cow shit compost- buds grown in shit taste like candy, wtf!
you wouldnt have thought that about the cow shit...stinky sorry for being an ass...i tried beatin the bottom of it but it wouldnt give, i did try sliding a butter knife around the edge, what got it out at the end was sliding the butter knife around the side while tapping it on the bottom(damn that sounds dirty)