I'm agnostic, this is my thoughts or "beliefs" if you will.

**I do not intend to offend, merely to state how I feel about the opposing sides, do not take what I say as an attack**:smokin:

In regards to Atheists, there is no evidence that proves there is no "Creator" or "God(s)" to be a mastermind behind the creation of the Universe. Lets face it the precise measurements needed to not only have our universe the way it is and have life is so precise that one must wonder if there is something behind it all. Science doesn't remove the possibility of a god, it may prove a religion wrong time and again but as of yet there is no proof for or against an omnipotent being or an afterlife. One cannot say what happens to the living once they die, but one thing does make me think while it's very likely possibility there is nothing after death at the same time one must wonder in this mysterious universe(s) of ours there's got to be a lot more to it's existence than we will ever know and our deaths may not be the end of consciousness the scientific study of the paranormal is a real one that does turn up strange things. Sadly everyone that could answer that type of question for certain is dead and can't tell us.

In regards to <Insert Religion> , there is no substantial evidence to support any religion. You hold on to your most often improbable to impossible moral legends and tales as historical truth, tales passed down many generations from a time when humankind was vastly primitive in their knowledge and tended to explain all things they saw and didn't understand with superstition and divine intervention, when the obvious flaws in your religions logic and history show forth you retreat to your generic loophole that since it was <insert all powerful religious figure here> they could have done anything they wanted so it is possible and did happen. No matter how many civilizations have been destroyed or people brutally killed in the name of your religion you plug your ears, shut your eyes and hum to avoid having to question the legitimacy and probability of it actually being true. Many of you believe simply because of fear in one form or another for one reason or another fear of something drives you to believe in religion it's that security blanket you need to get through life.

Then of course there's us agnostics (not capitalized because agnostic is not a religion merely a word to describe our way of thinking) Those of us that say hey look there isn't any real evidence to prove any side so instead of believing or not believing and living our lives according to some ancient man-made moral code, lets live our lives according to simple common sense, strive to live a happy life, strive to simply be what we consider to be a good person, strive to further humankinds understanding of the universe and when the end comes we will find out the answer for good or for bad. I mean if there is an afterlife it's probably nothing like any of our religions wish it to be and if there isn't then we won't really care because we will cease to exist.

I totally understand you on this one man. Great post. Agnostics truly are the chosen people...

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i used to be agnostic. i was originally a christian, but then realized that it was not in line with my true beliefs, plus it was full of contradictions and holes. Then I swung over to atheist, then to agnostic.

Now I am somewhere in between. I feel myself to be a spiritual person, and I believe that there is something much greater than us that we do not understand. I would not call it god, nor would I start a religion to further my ideas. I simply feel that we humans are too small minded to truly understand the secrets of the universe and anyone who thinks they DO understand is closing off their minds to new possibilities.

I try to keep an open mind. The beginning of life on this planet continues to astound me. How life could spring from nothing, then evolve over millions of years to produce us, humans. It's incredible.

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Originally Posted by Cornelius

i used to be agnostic. i was originally a christian, but then realized that it was not in line with my true beliefs, plus it was full of contradictions and holes. Then I swung over to atheist, then to agnostic.

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I'm an atheist and an agnostic. An atheist (a - theist) does not believe in the existence of a god, and at the same time I'm an agnostic because I know the existence or non-existence of a god or gods can't be proven. The claim that there is a god is not falsifiable.

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I try to keep an open mind. The beginning of life on this planet continues to astound me. How life could spring from nothing, then evolve over millions of years to produce us, humans. It's incredible.

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It is incredible, but also explainable. The theory is that life started with simple self-replicating molecules. They key is there was a LOT of time for molecules to become membranes, then cells. Life on Earth was very primitive for billions of years. It wasn't until 542 million years ago, at the beginning of the Paleozoic Era, that things got really interesting.

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Originally Posted by anandamide

It wasn't until 542 million years ago, at the beginning of the Paleozoic Era, that things got really interesting.

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Seems like only yesturday...lol

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

Agnostics truly are the chosen people...

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Well at least you guys aren't like some religious people who think too highly of themselves.:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Dec. 21 2012

Well at least you guys aren't like some religious people who think too highly of themselves.:rolleyes:

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not that you take pride in that fact or anything :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Polymirize

Agnostics truly are the chosen people...

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i considered myself agnostic for a major portion of my life. early on i dropped the entire judeo-christian ideology, but i wasn't quite ready to give up the concept of some sort of spiritual force which exerted some sort of control over the universe. i finally came to the point where i knew i had to make a choice, to come to some sort of conclusion as to the nature of reality. i believe it was the right choice.

it seems to me that at some point in life you have to make the decision, to take a leap of faith in one direction or another. i suppose you could spend your entire life waffling on the subject, but there is a certain satisfaction in choosing a course and resigning yourself to its consequences.

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

not that you take pride in that fact or anything :rolleyes:

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What fact? And I'm sure you, the re-incarnation of Jesus's half brother, know a lot about pride.

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Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity

i considered myself agnostic for a major portion of my life. early on i dropped the entire judeo-christian ideology, but i wasn't quite ready to give up the concept of some sort of spiritual force which exerted some sort of control over the universe. i finally came to the point where i knew i had to make a choice, to come to some sort of conclusion as to the nature of reality. i believe it was the right choice.

it seems to me that at some point in life you have to make the decision, to take a leap of faith in one direction or another. i suppose you could spend your entire life waffling on the subject, but there is a certain satisfaction in choosing a course and resigning yourself to its consequences.

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See I am completely opposite. I spent most of my childhood and young teen life believing in God simple because it was always a part of everything. Everyone always talked about him, everyone went to church. I believed because it was the normal. In my late teens is when I started having my doubts I started to see big gaping flaws in christianity and then later in religion in general. I then began to ask myself. Do I even believe anymore, am I an atheist or something? Is this a bad thing? Then finally it hit me. I feel like I have to choose to believe or not to believe because we are programmed to be that way. Our societies around the world are centered around or stemmed from various religions. My satisfaction and "awakening" hit me when I realized there is absolutely no logic and quite a bit of flaws in going to one side of the fence or the other, to do that means to put up blinders. People that believe or don't believe become highly defensive and completely resistant to any evidence. My current best friend who is religious refuses to believe in Evolution because it's not in the bible, regardless of the fact that Evolution is all but proven with unmeasurable amounts of evidence behind it..fossil record, DNA, insect and bacteria models.

I feel "free" and enlightened now that I know where/how I stand on the issue. Maybe it's arrogance maybe it's not but I also feel smug in the fact that I was one of the lucky few to "be free of the Matrix" so to speak.

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Originally Posted by Dec. 21 2012

What fact? And I'm sure you, the re-incarnation of Jesus's half brother, know a lot about pride.

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Thank you captain obvious :thumbsup: