Marijuana is to be used, not abused...

You're free to disagree, but this is my experience. Feel free to share yours!

Here's my perspective:

Medicinally I can understand why someone would smoke everyday, all day... getting really high all the time and all that. But from my perspective, my body and mind are healthy. So, I personally have no reason to flood my mind and body with psychoactive chemicals all the time. Every once in a while its fun, but if God intended healthy people to have THC running rampant through their blood at all times, our liver or other organ would probably make it in abundance naturally. Know what I mean? Its just one of those obvious things to me. He made this plant so I can enjoy it once in a while, but similarly to wine or beer or whatever, its not something I should be constantly drowning myself in. That's just not what life intended to be like.

I smoked everyday when I was younger, and just about failed out of high school because of it. Weed has been shown to negatively effect memory and stuff like that (while your high... not necessarily afterwards). I stopped smoking and drinking all together to get my life back together. I got my grades up, got into college, and then started drinking and smoking just now and again recreationally. I might drink or smoke a couple times a week... not enough to get really fucked up, but just enough to have a good time and take the edge off.

My grades have stayed up if not gotten better. I'm a productive worker, and I'm on my way to a competitive law school in the Fall. (UNC... if anyone in the Chapel Hill/Raleigh, NC area is reading this and wants to chill sometime... let me know!)

Anyway, in my experience, drugs and alcohol are a blessing from God... but abuse or constant use of either of them are not good things. In my opinion we should balance our lives with hard work and with recreation. Too much of either is not good. I'm not intending to judge... I just want to share my personal experience and open a dialog.

God bless!

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

In my opinion we should balance our lives with hard work and with recreation.

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Very good post, I agree 100%. And a lot of people should think about this specific statement. Some people sit around all day trying to get/thinking about getting/getting high, but like you said, there should be a balance. It should be more of a reward than a need. I used to smoke a lot in HS too, still got good grades, but that's not the point. I've now found that with moderation comes greater outcome of quality of life.

getting high is nice; but it is neither the most important nor the best thing in life; love, the outdoors, learning, travel, so many neato things out there in the world to checkout; i like weed, i like it a lot, but it doesn't control my life, not remotely

I smoke everyday if i have it, not all day coz i have college to go to, and a job to go to sometimes and a girlfriend to see. Perhaps I am an abuser, oh well...

I wouldn't say you're an abuser just b/c you do it every day. I mean, its healthy to have a glass of wine or two every day... but not much more then that if you're drinking every day (or so the doctors tell us). But if you were smoking like 7 joints a day... in my opinion that would be a bit to much. For me even one joint every single day is to much... but to each his own.

Each person I think has to decide what is "abuse" for him or her... and stay beneath that level.

i smoke every day, sometimes a few times, but as long as my life is together, i consider myself fine. I do have a habit of smokinng every night and watching adult swim, so that is a factor in my life (weed+adult swim on cartton network=happyness), but it helps me sleep, and is after I finish my daily shit, so it isnt hurting anything. I do smoke and go to class occasionally, but i dont find that it hurts me. I think that different people function differently, and what works for one wont neccisarilly work for everyne else. I dont consider myself an abuser, weed is simply a really fun hobby.

Anything in excess is bad. On the other hand, in terms of excess, marijuana is more like bread rather than alcohol. What I mean by that is that you can consume a lot of bread a day and not have to worry about excess, but you probably do not want to be drinking nearly as much as you eat bread.

I have a confession to make. I'm a wife beater. I abuse Mary Jane all the time :(.

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Originally Posted by LegalizeTheGreen

i smoke every day, sometimes a few times, but as long as my life is together, i consider myself fine. I do have a habit of smokinng every night and watching adult swim, so that is a factor in my life (weed+adult swim on cartton network=happyness), but it helps me sleep, and is after I finish my daily shit, so it isnt hurting anything. I do smoke and go to class occasionally, but i dont find that it hurts me. I think that different people function differently, and what works for one wont neccisarilly work for everyne else. I dont consider myself an abuser, weed is simply a really fun hobby.

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I totally agree, Its always fun after a hard days work/school to smoke and watch adult swim. and I also do it every night.:)

Its not the weed that does that, its the person themselves. Weed was just a substance that revealed it. Fuck ups are fuck ups, sober or high. Look at the bigger picture.

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

Every once in a while its fun, but if God intended healthy people to have THC running rampant through their blood at all times, our liver or other organ would probably make it in abundance naturally.

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Yeah, and if God had intended for us to have oxygen in our blood, he'd have created an organ or something that created it, but no, we have to breathe that shit in too...

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Originally Posted by Turtlepik

Yeah, and if God had intended for us to have oxygen in our blood, he'd have created an organ or something that created it, but no, we have to breathe that shit in too...

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Made me laugh out loud. A+ Wish I could rep ya..

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Originally Posted by Not An Addict

Made me laugh out loud. A+ Wish I could rep ya..

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4 more posts, and you can. ;) Lol.

Why does one smoke?

Why does one wish to be happy?

Happiness is the only thing desirable within itself.

It would be foolish to question someone for doing something that makes them happy, without causing needless suffering unto others.

i smoke all day every day!i get upwith the missus at 7,pack the lunch boxes for 3 of our 4 kids,take them to school,come back play with the little un all day,go and collect kids at 3 come home to a madhouse!all the while being stoned the kids arehealthyand goteverything they need,so'sthemissus!
so whats wrong with what im doing!each to there own i say!

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Originally Posted by Reefer Rogue

It would be foolish to question someone for doing something that makes them happy, without causing needless suffering unto others.

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Friend, it is never foolish to question anything... that is how one learns. That being said, it *is* foolish to judge others... which is why I said each person has to decide what abuse means to them. I was simply stating what abuse means to me.

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Originally Posted by Turtlepik

Yeah, and if God had intended for us to have oxygen in our blood, he'd have created an organ or something that created it, but no, we have to breathe that shit in too...

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Ummm... Turtle, I hate to break it to you my friend, but we do have an organ that provides us with a steady supply oxygen. Its called our lungs bro.

Their job is to take in air, remove the oxygen, place it in our blood, and expel the rest. They do this naturally, without effort (you have to try to not breath). If we want them to start providing us with THC we have to do something "unnatural" (again, not that its bad... its just not a naturally occurring bodily function).

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

If God intended healthy people to have THC running rampant through their blood at all times, our liver or other organ would probably make it in abundance naturally.

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I sorta get what you're saying, but if we did have THC running through our veins constantly then we wouldn't notice it because it would just be the way life is. We wouldn't feel good or high, because, well, THC would be all we knew, all we'd have is a bad feeling if it stopped.

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

Its just one of those obvious things to me. He made this plant so I can enjoy it once in a while

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er.. how?

Cannabis is about as abundant as it gets the way you beleive god created it. It may not grow very potent wild but it grows like crazy. As we all know, the only reason it's shhh'd away is because it's illegal.

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

Anyway, in my experience, drugs and alcohol are a blessing from God... but abuse or constant use of either of them are not good things. In my opinion we should balance our lives with hard work and with recreation. Too much of either is not good.

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Well amen to that :thumbsup:
I find so many things in life just need to be balanced to be right.. all the problems in life.. you trace them back and you can usually find balance at the heart of it somewhere

peace :rastasmoke:

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

Friend, it is never foolish to question anything... that is how one learns. That being said, it *is* foolish to judge others... which is why I said each person has to decide what abuse means to them. I was simply stating what abuse means to me.

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One can learn through observation aswell as the socratic method. I believe cannabis can never be abused beyond a point where it will kill you, therefore it is acceptable to use whenever. Aslong as it doesn't affect your life negatively and you're not causing a nuisance and disturbance.

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Originally Posted by spngrkid101

haha ur married to mary jane!!! i get it...

wow that took me a second at first i was like thas fucked up to beat ur wife

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LOL yeah :stoned:

As long as its not interfering with your overall quality of life or your goals in life its not abusing it. I mean is masturbating a lot considered abusing your genitals?

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Originally Posted by mugen

As long as its not interfering with your overall quality of life or your goals in life its not abusing it. I mean is masturbating a lot considered abusing your genitals?

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If some dude masturbates 4 times a day every day for a half-hour a pop that could get to the point of genital abuse. Dude'll rub himself raw (unless he's using lots of lube!). LOL

... seriously though, overall I agree with you. In my line of work the adverse memory side-effects one encounters while being high (which as far as I know are scientifically proven) make it an interference to the quality of my work goals. I may be able to "pass" my classes or do my job okay... but in my opinion its not fair to myself to disable my memory in school all the time, even if its just a little bit. And its not fair to my future employer if I smoke weed on my way to work and on my lunch break every day. Statistically speaking, the quality of my work will be effected.

Now if memory is like zero part of someone's workday, I don't see how being high would hurt them everyday. But then again, I think if you have a job in which you aren't using your memory, you're probably not trying very hard to "excel" at your job... maybe you're just barely getting by. And I believe we should all strive for excellence in what we do. That's just my beleif.

Don't get me wrong... there are times that weed has helped me achieve excellence in my life... through creative thinking and problem solving especially. I don't think its wrong to work while high once in a while. But I think doing it all day every day is not natural and is not how we are meant to function through life. ... To each his own though...

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Originally Posted by Jah420

Cannabis is about as abundant as it gets the way you beleive god created it. It may not grow very potent wild but it grows like crazy. As we all know, the only reason it's shhh'd away is because it's illegal.

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That's true, but so is opium sap. Just because a mind-altering substance grows naturally in abundance doesn't mean its a good idea to do it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I just see mind altering drugs as primarily recreational. And I beleive life should be a balance between recreation and work. I mean... don't get me wrong, I've worked high before. But its just not something that should happen everyday in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

Ummm... Turtle, I hate to break it to you my friend, but we do have an organ that provides us with a steady supply oxygen. Its called our lungs bro.

Their job is to take in air, remove the oxygen, place it in our blood, and expel the rest. They do this naturally, without effort (you have to try to not breath). If we want them to start providing us with THC we have to do something "unnatural" (again, not that its bad... its just not a naturally occurring bodily function).

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Sorry, but isn't that exactly what we're doing when smoking then? The lungs don't create the oxygen or THC. They just take in the air or smoke, absorb what they want and expel the rest. I fail to see the difference...

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Originally Posted by Turtlepik

Sorry, but isn't that exactly what we're doing when smoking then? The lungs don't create the oxygen or THC. They just take in the air or smoke, absorb what they want and expel the rest. I fail to see the difference...

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I'm just saying I believe if God intended for me to be high all the time, he could've made me that way. He could've filled the air we breath with molecules of THC instead of oxygen, nitrogen, and carbon.

For there to be "high" there has to be "low" or "medium". If I lived my entire live "high" then I wouldn't even know what "high" was, because I wouldn't know what its like to not be high.

The thought of being high all the time is actually depressing to me. I love being high, don't get me wrong. But I love being 'sober' at time too. Both have positive sides to them. Balance and moderation, for me, is the way to go.

Now if we're talking "medicinal" use, that's a different story. But I can't see any reason for me, being a healthy, normal, happy person to aim to be high on THC or any drug, be it dangerous and addictive or not, every second of my life.

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

if God intended healthy people to have THC running rampant through their blood at all times, our liver or other organ would probably make it in abundance naturally. ...... He made this plant so I can enjoy it once in a while, but similarly to wine or beer or whatever, its not something I should be constantly drowning myself in. That's just not what life intended to be like.

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As god is equally responsible for MS, Cancer, ageing, god botherers, Dubya and just about every other misery inflicted on humanity forgive me if I don't give a toss what he wants.

speaking from experience you can abbuse weed. Well after my ex girlfriend had my baby (she broke up with me when she found out she was pregnet) i started smoking pot heavily. all day every day to cover my emotion and frustration about the whole situation. my grades in school dropped off, and my attendence went way down hill.. i dropped out of school 2 times this year, and now i just sobered up after i lost my girlfriend.. got myself into councling to fix the shit that i have been smoking pot to cope with.. and that is abuse. now in due time, i will smoke pot recreationally. but its just going to be a reward for a hard days work. Like many americans come home and have a cold beer after work, i may come home to have a joint.

but pot has effected my life negitivily from how i was using it. and i have since relaized that you have to be mature about it.

I think the intrinsic and chemical properties of weed are totally irrelevant. Whether God intended THC to be in the body or not is irrelevant (after all, nothing in the body would exist if it weren't for the body's necessity to absorb foreign substances and assimilate them into tissue and energy and blood, etc.)

What is relevant is a given person's security and comfort with their own sober self (nothing conciously psychoactive in the body). If a person gets high to become desensitized to real-self emotions, or to feel more normal about his or her self, that would qualify as abuse.

Everyone gets angry or sad or frustrated, but too many of us use negative emotions as a justification for getting high in some way, and by doing so they totally numb the sequence of emotions that lead the person through character evolution up to the higher ground of having felt the full burden of one's emotions.They cheat themselves out of emotional growth, and become emotionally stunted. This is why you see 28 year olds who think and act pretty much like they are fifteen. That age is roughly when these self-destructive habits begin, and it's easy, so you keep doing it. It these people that give stoners a bad rep.

It could have been weed alone that stunted emotional growth, but normally there's additional substances.

The person who smokes weed responsibly is the person who smokes it when nothing is troubling him emotionally and he considers himself in a normal happy state beforehand.

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Originally Posted by PsychoticEpisode

As god is equally responsible for MS, Cancer, ageing, god botherers, Dubya and just about every other misery inflicted on humanity forgive me if I don't give a toss what he wants.

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There's no need for me to forgive you... that's between you and God. If He decides He wants you to give a toss about Him I have no doubt He is more then able to get your attention.

I will say I think its both funny and a bit sad that we, humans, tend to blame the Divine for shit we brought on ourselves (especially Dubya by electing the bastard, but even disease and aging through our own sin). I'm not being judgmental of you specifically. I myself do the same thing sometimes.

But I have to remind myself that the fact that God put into place consequences for sin (lying, cheating, hatred, murder, etc... all or one of which we all have committed) doesn't make Him any more evil then my own father is evil for spanking my brother that time he shot my neighbors window out with his first BB gun and thought it was funny. And before you say spanking or any other form of parental discipline is insignificant, to a young child it can be emotionally devastating. But the point of it is to correct the child so he/she won't make the harmful mistake again.

I think of disease as our common punishment. We can focus on the negative and curse God, or focus on the positive and thank Him for the fact that pain, aging, sadness, and disease can actually work for good when those terrible consequences draw us back to Him and encourage us to be loving and help one another through hard times instead of cursing each other.

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Originally Posted by burnable

The person who smokes weed responsibly is the person who smokes it when nothing is troubling him emotionally and he considers himself in a normal happy state beforehand.

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Quoted for truth. I have directed a friend to smack me around if I ever smoke to deal with my problems. I will return the favour if he ever drinks to deal with his problems. It's a good situation. :D

In moderation, weed doesn't do shit. My dad used to smoke on weekends, and he is a Rhoads Scholar, and went to Harvard BS. I smoke on weedends, and my collage counciler is recomending that I apply to Oxford and Harvard. I don't know how it would affect me if I did it every day though...

nah, man, the only reason god didnt make us high all the time was cuz if we were, we'd never get nothin done, so he gave us the ability to advocate our use, so as long as ur not doin something important, get fuckin roasted man!! :rasta: :rastasmoke:

I even know a girl, who through out her highschool career, smoked almost everyday, and she got accepted to Harvard. And yeah, never smoke to solve problems. Smoke because you want to have a little fun. I think that if you need to smoke or drink to get rid of your problems, you should be seeing a shrink. I've also taken something of a vow - that I will never write any music or draw any crazy art while stoned. I don't want to have to rely on drugs to get my creative juices going. Admited, they do, but I don't "document" it.

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

You're free to disagree, but this is my experience. Feel free to share yours!

Here's my perspective:

Medicinally I can understand why someone would smoke everyday, all day... getting really high all the time and all that. But from my perspective, my body and mind are healthy. So, I personally have no reason to flood my mind and body with psychoactive chemicals all the time. Every once in a while its fun, but if God intended healthy people to have THC running rampant through their blood at all times, our liver or other organ would probably make it in abundance naturally. Know what I mean? Its just one of those obvious things to me. He made this plant so I can enjoy it once in a while, but similarly to wine or beer or whatever, its not something I should be constantly drowning myself in. That's just not what life intended to be like.

I smoked everyday when I was younger, and just about failed out of high school because of it. Weed has been shown to negatively effect memory and stuff like that (while your high... not necessarily afterwards). I stopped smoking and drinking all together to get my life back together. I got my grades up, got into college, and then started drinking and smoking just now and again recreationally. I might drink or smoke a couple times a week... not enough to get really fucked up, but just enough to have a good time and take the edge off.

My grades have stayed up if not gotten better. I'm a productive worker, and I'm on my way to a competitive law school in the Fall. (UNC... if anyone in the Chapel Hill/Raleigh, NC area is reading this and wants to chill sometime... let me know!)

Anyway, in my experience, drugs and alcohol are a blessing from God... but abuse or constant use of either of them are not good things. In my opinion we should balance our lives with hard work and with recreation. Too much of either is not good. I'm not intending to judge... I just want to share my personal experience and open a dialog.

God bless!

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If you think alcohol is a blessing you are severely retarded. I know personal attacks aren't allowed here, but come on. Alcohol kills so many people every day, and its a poison. How could you say that? that really steams me, man. thats why I insulted you, not because I think you are actually stupid, just that I am very angry that you would put weed together with something as horrible toxic and evil as alcohol. Please seriously reevaluate your life, you are not listening to god, that is for sure.

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Originally Posted by jsn9333

That's true, but so is opium sap. Just because a mind-altering substance grows naturally in abundance doesn't mean its a good idea to do it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I just see mind altering drugs as primarily recreational. And I beleive life should be a balance between recreation and work. I mean... don't get me wrong, I've worked high before. But its just not something that should happen everyday in my opinion.

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I hate you. I hate you so much. Do you even know what cannabis is? Cannabis is not opium, and it is not alcohol. is there any way I can request for the original poster to be banned? He is trolling or too dumb to be on these boards.

Here is a CLUE: cannabis is so non toxic that you cannot kill yourself with it, unlike HEROIN(opium) and BOOZE. Cannabis PREVENTS ALZHEIMERS, actively HELPS with ARTHRITIS, it shrinks tumors, etc, etc. It has no negative health effects unless you smoke it, and that is just from smoking, it has nothing to do with the cannabis.

I feel so sorry for you, I know how badly it hurts to be that ignorant. I used to be a hardcore christian fundamentalist who thought weed or booze was invented by satan way back in the day and still kept around to lure people to hell. Then I stopped being a stupid fucker and I woke the fuck up. You are not nearly as ignorant as I was, nor are you a stupid fucker.

(again, I say that out of anger, not that I think you are actually dumb, jsn. I also want to apologize if I came across too strong here. I am trying not to flame you because you don't deserve to be flamed, but I am very poor at judging what is appropriate and what is not.)

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Originally Posted by Burnt_Toast

If you've got your shit together, I dont see anything wrong with being high all day long, everyday.

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i totally agree. that's how i am. i make sure i have all my shit together before i toke it up. i don't see any harm in smoking all the time, as much as you want, as long as you don't neglect the other things you have to do. if i have something to do, i do it. i'm a college student, so i have class and homework, so i make sure everything is taken care of before i smoke. as long as my grades are good, life is good :thumbsup:

i'm in a really demanding program at my school, and my smoking hasn't interferred with my school work at all, guess i've been lucky :)


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chillin' with the bong :hippy:

Getting bad grades, almost dropping out of school, bringing them back up and going to college and shit... this isn't stuff a pothead goes through, this is stuff a ton of people go through whether they smoke or not. I never smoked until I was like 19 but I still dropped out of high school. And now my friends with GED's are delivering pizzas and shit, while I'm driving a $50k car self employed. Life is what you make of it, weed has no say in it unless that's how you think about it.

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Originally Posted by jakez

Getting bad grades, almost dropping out of school, bringing them back up and going to college and shit... this isn't stuff a pothead goes through, this is stuff a ton of people go through whether they smoke or not. I never smoked until I was like 19 but I still dropped out of high school. And now my friends with GED's are delivering pizzas and shit, while I'm driving a $50k car self employed. Life is what you make of it, weed has no say in it unless that's how you think about it.

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Its true bad grades, rough times, etc. can be caused by a variety of reasons. I'm saying, for me, drug abuse (specifically of marijuana) was a primary cause of my "rough time". I have no doubt some people can smoke every day and function well. However, I would be willing to bet they aren't smoking like 50 bong hits an hour.

What I'm saying is that I abused the drug. I would smoke *a lot* of it before school and after school (right before I'd do my homework). And I wasn't smoking schwag either. When I'm somewhat high I can function okay or even very well. But when I'm "50 bong hits baked off my freakin' ass"... well, I'm baked off my ass. Its sort of like my life starts over every 20 seconds and I sort of forget the prior 20 seconds (for lack of a better way to describe it). Again, studies show that marijuana affects short-term memory.I can't even follow a movie plot when I'm baked for cryin' out load, much less a complex math algorithm in my high level computer science class.

I'm not saying smoking it is wrong, or even smoking it every day is wrong. I'm saying people need to remember to use it, not abuse it. I, for one, choose to use it on a weekly or monthly basis so the high is more recreational versus just another everyday experience.

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Originally Posted by Caduceo

If you think alcohol is a blessing you are severely retarded. I know personal attacks aren't allowed here, but come on. Alcohol kills so many people every day, and its a poison. How could you say that? that really steams me, man. thats why I insulted you, not because I think you are actually stupid, just that I am very angry that you would put weed together with something as horrible toxic and evil as alcohol. Please seriously reevaluate your life, you are not listening to god, that is for sure.

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I hate you. I hate you so much. Do you even know what cannabis is? Cannabis is not opium, and it is not alcohol. is there any way I can request for the original poster to be banned? He is trolling or too dumb to be on these boards.

Here is a CLUE: cannabis is so non toxic that you cannot kill yourself with it, unlike HEROIN(opium) and BOOZE. Cannabis PREVENTS ALZHEIMERS, actively HELPS with ARTHRITIS, it shrinks tumors, etc, etc. It has no negative health effects unless you smoke it, and that is just from smoking, it has nothing to do with the cannabis.

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Hamburgers kill people too... from cholesterol build-up over time. That doesn't mean they are poison. Like anything else, alcohol is to be used responsibly. And like anything else, there are people who don't use it responsibly and face the consequences. I'm not saying weed is as dangerous as alcohol. I think we agree that it is ridiculous that alcohol is legal and weed isn't. Weed is by far less dangerous then alcohol.

However, what I'm saying is that I think weed (like hamburgers and alcohol) needs to be used and not abused. I would recommend staying the hell away from opium... the ease with which one gets extremely physically addicted to that drug is ridiculous.

My point is, I abused the drug "THC" or weed. I would smoke *a lot* of it before school and after school (right before I'd do my homework). And I wasn't smoking schwag either. When I'm somewhat high I can function okay or even very well. But when I'm "50 bong hits baked off my freakin' ass"... well, I'm baked off my ass. Its sort of like my life starts over every 20 seconds and I sort of forget the prior 20 seconds (for lack of a better way to describe it). Again, studies show that marijuana affects short-term memory.I can't even follow a movie plot when I'm baked for cryin' out load, much less a complex math algorithm in my high level computer science class.

I'm not saying smoking it is wrong, or even smoking it every day is wrong. And I'm not saying it is as dangerous as alcohol (it isn't). I'm saying people need to remember to use it, not abuse it... just like alcohol, hamburgers, or anything else. Hell... some people even abuse sleep!

I, for one, choose to use weed on a weekly or monthly basis so the high is more recreational versus just another everyday experience. This also ensures I don't abuse the drug ever again.

Im not going to lie weed as effected my grades, but i still try to get high everyday, i dont know why weed is just something i need. I can go weeks without smoking if i want to but i just love it, its more of a hobby then a habit now. I wouldnt say that i was addicted i would say i love marijuana.:D