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I would imagine someone yelling "liberal bias!" at this, but seeing as how it's on Fox News...
May Day Brutality - ebaumsworld.com
Just watch it. I'm not feeling safe as of late. I watch things like this and try to think of how you'd manage to kill that many. It's not that I hate cops: They have a job, just like the rest of us. But they are allowed to do things like this, and do, and I get really, really worried.
You have to remember though, these people aren't protected by American rights. Don't comment on this, I'm being an ass.
But these protests are annoying me. Either go about becoming an American citizen the correct way or get the fuck out the country. I have nothing against mexicans, but I hate illegals.
I agree how the cops reacted was rediculous.
^^^ this man speaks the truth
There's nothing wrong about them pushing back protestors if they're either not citizens or not protesting legally. That's expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by JaggedEdge
What I was mostly looking at was how they tried to push the press around, and then batoned the camera person. THAT is what scares me.
Yeah, I saw that too, and as I said at the end, I think the cops were acting out of line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob the Awesome
But sometimes I think more members of the press need a beat down like the ones in that video got. Alway's getting in the way... lol.
Oh, yea, don't get me wrong, I despise most people in the media too. Just don't see any reason they deserve a beat-down for doing their jobs. I'm getting horribly sick of the attitude many people have these days towards stuff like this...
I agree with ya, some cops take their job way to far, and simply abuse their power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob the Awesome
Cops play too many video games... it makes them all violent and shit.:D
Are they still protesting freedom at mayday? Good if so.
What are we going to do with the patriarchs?
Beltane in Edinburgh this year, security telling 50 or so people to move away from a large campfire and erecting a barrier round it, it makes me lathergic all this nanny stating.
i know its hard to look at it from a cops perspective but try to see it like this
there are about maybe 100-150 cops there and if a few people turn violent then the crowd can become a mob very fast and they are severely outnumbered so it is up to the officers to keep it under control.
maybe they did act a little too aggressive in this case but try and look at it from their shoes
sorry i had an uncle who was an officer and he was killed in a situation like this
Anyone who wants to work here who aint a citizen should at least get a green card so that they are legal. On a larger note though i think if we want to stop illegal immigration we should help mexico become a wealthier country with better jobs for its people so that they dont migrate here.
As I see it, a few protestors become rowdy agressive assholes, put the cops in a panicked, backed-into-a-corner, insinctive survival mindset, and the whole crowd pays the price for the actions of a few assholes. It's not right for the cops to brutalize people, but then it's not right for a bear to tear apart a guy that accidentally walked into it's lair.... just try telling the bear that.
During the last few weeks I have been reading about dianetics and the Power of Attraction, quite interesting stuff to say the least, but protests was one thing that was mentioned. P.O.A works in a simple way...you release and think negative thoughts, you get negative back, and these protests, are not postive, they are negative and create hate, thus, the retaliation resulting in violence. If these protests were instead fueled by positivity, and instead if being "anti" this and "anti" that, they should try acting "pro" this, "pro" that, having a positive protest, not negative.
Anyways, my mind has been expanding a lot lately. There is a simple reason why things like this happen. :)
you all realize that if we all banded together we would outnumber the police? they cant take us all out, we could riot and all that good stuff.. well not good but just saying they only over power us through fear.
if we banded together we could overthrow the cops they arent that powerful they just think they are. granted they could call in the army and the higher ups but hell id be outta there when that happened lol.
do any of you remember the riots surrounding the rodney king verdict? can the cops be blamed for wanting to put a stop to things before they got out of hand? once violence is started it can escalate very quickly into a riot, where the damage can be a lot more serious than a few bruises and skinned knees.
rocks and bottles were thrown, the cops responded with nonlethal force, warnings were announced from helicopters, and that should have been any sensible persons cue to split.
I understand what you're all saying. You're making very good points. Illegal Immigration is illegal and needs to be dealt with, the cops have to face with many negative-protestors hassling them, and other such things.
But this isn't some cops beating a few protestors. This is the cops beating the media. How does the media cause the police to act afraid? It doesn't, it seems more like here the cops don't want any form of checks (ie, word spreading and them getting in trouble) about what they're doing. Which I'm not very savvy to.
Violence, even defensive violence, has gone too far... The cops were beating on people who were already down- not really a threat if you're curled in a fetal position...
if you were standing in front of a charging rhino would you expect your press credentials to keep you safe? the press has no special dispensation. when the party's over you get the hell out of the way or you get pushed out of the way. there is no doubt that some of the officers involved were a bit overzealous in their duties, but these are not machines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob the Awesome
at the end of the day-
there was no massacre, there was no riot
and there were more bruised egos than broken bones.
in my world that's a good day, but then i live in the real world.
i was workin in a camera crew friday helpin this documentry ting,
some guy got arsey in the interview and shoved my camera'a so i steped back
then he gets in ma face n tried to grab my camera, so i pushed him back put down camera and jawed him
my cam didnt give me any protechtion from his bullshit
but was a gd video
It's complete bullshit. If anyone here has been to one of the may day rallies you'd know this. Those few people provoking the police I think were saying stuff about keeping our freedoms. Sure these people are here illegal but i'm sure none of you have faced the poverty they face. The economy is just so much better here, it's easier for them to kep their families alive. BTW I may be a little bias, I have a few illegal immigrant relatives...
The police are NOT supposed to be like a charging Rhino, that's the whole point. They're supposed to hold to a set of rules and ethics like everyone else is. But it seems, according to this, whenever they feel like it they feel free to assault (Yes, a crime, you're not allowed to beat on people for no reason, not even the police) the media and others. This shouldn't be tolerated at all, and it's sad to see that some people such as yourself feel otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
If I remember, the video prefaced the explanation with the fact that a few young guys were provoking the police. When you start throwing bottles and rocks at police, aren't you asking for it? I agree that police violence is on the rise, and responsibility is on the decline, but these people are criminals. It is against the law to enter the United States illegally, hence the term illegals. If you want the rule of law, you must accept the fact these people are breaking the law just by being here. If you go into Mexico illegally and are stopped for a traffic offense and can't show documentation, They ask, you go to jail and wait for a trial to be charged for illegal entry. Mexico has a lot stricter laws on immigration than we do. So the solution: send them back and make them apply like everyone else that wants to enter our country! No exceptions. But first we must seal the border.