alex is on vacation, so they're airing some good intervies over the past few months...
there's an hour left, and it will play again tonight from 9pm to midnight central at www.infowars.com
so listen.
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alex is on vacation, so they're airing some good intervies over the past few months...
there's an hour left, and it will play again tonight from 9pm to midnight central at www.infowars.com
so listen.
Oh like wow man, your kidding? Alex Jones is airing reruns tonight? I'll be there with bells on man. You would think Alex would stay on and keep up with all the depatment store santa conspiracys, and the rain deer tyranny thats keeping that red nosed one from playing any games, but I guess not. Oh well, reruns of prison camps to ring in the new year will work just as good.
Toker
no, there are no conspiracies, you've certainly proved that with your nonsense. they've never existed ever in all of history. it's always loving governments doing all they can to bring peace and freedom to the world.
the government likes to charge other people with conspiracy to do things, but they themselves never conspire to do anything, it's all willy nilly and giant coincidences and accidents because they really don't know what's going on.
the sad thing is you believe that.
he works 18, sometimes more hours a day, a vacation was due. he must be doing something right if he can do dozens of radio interviews all around the country a week, and less and less and less people call in to disagree than did a few years ago, even when the host is laughing and belittling and calling him a wacko.
that's because most people aren't idiots like you, and can see what's happening to the country.
but it can't happen here.
http://www.house.gov/paul/tst/tst2004/tst122004.htm
you might want to call ron paul and tell him to stop being such a conspiracy theorist. alex has interviewed ron paul quite a few times, which must make him evil. ron paul says a national id and the new freedom initiative is evil and bad...what a nutjob he is.
When you talk to people you take everything to an extreme, and you attack if anyone questions you or your theorys. You never actualy try to talk about anything. You seem to just be looking for firm believers to butt pat you or something. I have never once heard you question Alex's opinion. You just believe and auto-post whatever Al says. That type of behavour should be a warning sign for you, but I guess not. If it was me I would be worried about being in such close agreement with another.
Your own foolish ways cost you more then your gaining. You propagate this stuff to open eyes, but your tactics are causing you to push people away from your message. What good does it do for your cause to make out like your off your rocker, or to get mad and call non-believers names? If you exagerate and lie about me, to me, then naturaly I am going to think you would do that with other things also. Does this help your cause for people to think like that?
BTW, if what Al says is all true, like you seem to think it is, then he would be dead by now. Unless he is somehow untouchable by the people that control everything?
A good conspiracy can not be proven right or wrong. You try to prove your point by asking questions every time you think you need evidence, and getting that evidence by letting the reader answer it with their own speculation. I ask that you answer them yourself, with hard evidence and proof, not speculation. The reason you have not been able to do that yet is because you can't. There is no solid evidence for your theorys.
I can't help but wonder at the mentality it takes to idolize a propaganda outlet. What's really sad about that is that I don't think you realize you do it.
Toker
i realize exactly what i'm doing. i dont need your words of wisdom, as if you're the first person to say those things. nothing you say is something i haven't already thought of. you think you're trying to impart some divine wisdeom on me, and you're the master at seeing what's propaganda and what's not.
i can judge for myself.
it's not all alex, like i've said before. i've found books about this going back long before alex was even born. and you know this, but you like to bring up the wrong thing over and over and over.
would he be dead by now? i can't say, he's not dead. people know who he is. millions of people have heard of him. it's usually those that study this to that extent who don't come to the forefront and put themselves out there that get imprisoned and killed. and they're out there, and you've never heard of them.
"i realize exactly what i'm doing."
I don't think you do! I think you haven't a clue what it is your really doing. I believe that you are one of the most programed people I have ever met. If Al is as importent as you seem to think, and is changing as many minds as you seem to think, then wouldn't he be a threat to them, they, the ones?
"i can judge for myself."
BS! You let others judge for you at every turn. You are an unquestioning servent. You don't ask what it is your being fed at the feeder, you just eat.
You really like history right? History repeats it's self right? If that is so, why is it that you want to go back to what we used to have if you know it will lead to the same screwed things we have now? You seem to see yourself as some sort of protector of Freedom or something. I was reading Al, and stuff like it, long before you ever brought that in. The theorys are nothing new. The people like Al are for the most part spouting pure BS thought up to profit off people that want to believe the worst. Your nothing but an advertiser for them. But whatever, I'm sure that in your mind your saving US all from a certain doom. It's actualy kind of funny that you are so aware of mind control, but you can't see it happening to you.
You might want to start looking for that chip just under your skin. Sometimes they put them on your back so you can't see them or get to them to yank them out. They can have them put in your teeth also. Go in for a filling, come out with a chip. Yep, it's all out there, history shows it's true. Governments always try to control the people. Look at history, all through it governments controled the people. There is no need for government at all, because any and all forms of government are tyranny. That is the reason there is governments in the first place. To control the people. It doesn't matter if your chains are made of iron or gold, they are both chains. Elected governments make just as many or more laws then most other forms of government. That system has proven over and over in history as being easy to corrupt, and that it leads to all manner of nasty shit. You compare our system today with nazi germany quite a lot. If this is where our system of government ends up, and history repeats it's self, well, I would hope you can put two and two together on your own on that one. Speculate a little on your own and see what history says will happen in the future if we go back to the past.
Toker
thank you oh wise for setting me straight. you are the all knowing master of what is and what is not propaganda.
i bring up things to alex jones that he's never heard of. i am capable of seeking things on my own and do so every day, without the help of infowars and prisonplanet. i know you try as hard as you can to make yourself think certain things about me, and i don't know why. i really don't care either.
but here's another thread where you have added absolutely nothing of substance to the original post. way to go.
"i am capable of seeking things on my own and do so every day, without the help of infowars and prisonplanet."
Sure you are man! I believe ya.
"i bring up things to alex jones that he's never heard of."
I'll bet you do! I mean the way you seek things on your own every day must mean your on to stuff Al never thought of. I think with your help, Al can save the world from tyranny. It's you and him against the world man. You telling him what he doesn't know, and Al telling the millions that listen to him what you told him. I'm a little taken by this new info that you are actualy opening the eye's of the eye opener. What a grand feeling of self worth it must give you to know that your reaching so many with your theory's that you study so long and hard to put together. All along I have been talking to the man behind the man and I didn't know it. Delusions can also be a warning sign PH. You may be able to convince yourself that you play a grand roll in all this conspiracy BS, but I am not so easly convinced.
Toker
taken by what? i see him once or twice a week and i'm editing 50 hours of footage down to 2. that's about as far as it goes. i edit, he pays me. i tell him stories we have on our local news...local stories and national packages.
i'd like to know what exactly you do to further any cause? but you won't tell me. apparently you are your own journalist and you write all the stories you read? based on your talk, no one can know anything, except you.
your logic is so flawed and i think most people here can tell.
you got nothing.
"he pays me"
The truth is finally revealed! Your a paid activist. I have heard of this before. I have even seen adds in the paper for your type. Your doing nothing but trying to earn your master money. I should have known you were on his payroll. It would have explained a lot. Now that you have exposed the fact that you work for the man, I understand you much better.
Toker
i get paid to edit a documentary. he makes videos he shoots himself. he gets people to edit them. people buy them, people make copies of them and spread them around.
i like to edit video. is there a problem?
Yes PH, there is a problem. The problem is that your working for AJ. It's the same thing to me as if finding out you work for the propaganda wing of the white house. Before I just thought you were brainwashed, now I know differently. Does it change things? You bet it does. It changes everything as far as I am concerned.
Toker
hahaha, you think alex jones has as much control as the white house? are you kidding? talk about grand delusions.
most people aren't as stupid and shallow and superficial and ignorant as you. those who watch his videos can see that. you obviously haven't, and i don't care. people watch them to see video of things around the country, unedited.
i'm brainwashed because you say so? then you're really much more of an idiot that i originally though.
maybe you should tell the congressman who routinely appear on his show that he's actually some propaganda master who has evil plans, that you have yet to actually state what they are...they'd really be interested to hear it.
I've stated it over and over again what motivates AJ. Money and fame. More people show up on right wing shows then they do AJ's. What does that mean ph? Does that mean Rush is not a propaganda outlet?
"most people aren't as stupid and shallow and superficial and ignorant as you. those who watch his videos can see that. you obviously haven't, and i don't care. people watch them to see video of things around the country, unedited."
Unedited??? Now wait just a minute, didn't you say "i edit, he pays me"? Your so full of shit your eye's are brown PH. What's it going to be? Edited or unedited? Get your story straight before spouting off PH, it ends up making you look kind of silly sometimes if you don't.
Toker
you're going to see the gergen interview from the RNC, unedited. you're going to see other chunks in the movie, unedited.
this is a new concept for you, isn't it?
there's a gergen encounter, but before that, there's footage of walking down the street. nothing really happens. i can cut that out...do you understand?
oh my god, people are going to see protesters and delegates and inside the convention and interviews with john buchanan and an encounter with michael mooer and david gergen, and they're going to see LRADs and surveillance blimps...oh the horror.
the difference between alex jones and the white house, no one has the white house plugged into their cable outlets for a steady dose...if alex jones plans to take over the country like you think, he's got a lot of work to do to surpass those bankers...
"this is a new concept for you, isn't it?"
Why yes PH, editing stuff and then calling it unedited is a new consept for me. Seeing it unedited would mean I get to see all of it, not just what you feel makes a point.
Lying won't help you PH. I have never said, not once, that alex plans to take over the country. Nor do I think that. You are, as is your master, a lying sack-o-shit. Who are you lying to PH? Certainly not me, as I know the truth about me. If you can't stick to the truth about me, how am I supposed to believe your theory's? If you tell me that something is unedited after you tell me you edited it, am I supposed to believe you? You have said two very different things. Which one is the truth PH?
Toker
in reponse to your 8th pointless post that has nothing to do with topic:
documentaries usually aren't 60 hours long...since you're so dense, i'll explain the editing process.
there's going to be huge sections of unedited parts. the encounter with david gergen will be one of them. everything will be there. it's about 8 minutes long. nothing will be cut out. the entire conversation will be there. you won't watch it anyway.
when you're walking down the street and filming, and there's nothing there. that can be cut out. the camera is rolling in case something happens. if nothing happens, it gets cut.
it keeps documentaries from being 60 or 200 hours long. what a novel idea? it's so evil, though, i know.
do you understand? your thinking is shallow. there's no thought process involved. i can't combat that. you take 3 three words out of context, and come to stupid, irrational conclusions.
"you take 3 three words out of context, and come to stupid, irrational conclusions."
I'm just editing your post so my reply is not 60 hours long. Like you said, if there is nothing there it can be cut out.
"in reponse to your 8th pointless post that has nothing to do with topic:"
Oh yes, as if your the king of staying on topic. I suppose if your going to be a lier, you might as well be a hypocrite also. BTW, this "stay on topic" thing you got going seems like maybe it's being said to try and control what I say. Are you trying to control my speech PH? You should know by now that I will say whatever I want, whenever I want to say it. The topic for this thread was an add for AJ and his conspiracy movies. I would say I stayed on topic fairly good.
"when you're walking down the street and filming"
In other words, what you feel can help you is left in the film, while anything that might go against your theory hits the editing room floor. I understand that PH, I wonder if you do though. Who are you trying to convince with this? Yourself? You have not convinced me, I have seen pieces of AJ's films. As much as he will allow to be shown for free anyway. That ain't much of it either. If you want to see all of the films, you must pay, or you must know someone that has paid. His films are edited to beat all hell. They are nothing but out of context BS.
"documentaries"
Yep, if you say it enough maybe I will believe you. The problem with your documentaries is that they are not documentaries. What AJ has is speculation. I'm not sure if speculation qualify's as a documentary.
Toker
You guys are cracking me up. Especially the "Pisshead".
Yeah, I used to subscribe to all those conspiracy beliefs. After all, it's kinda fun to pretend you know more than the average Joe. It's human nature to want to buy into all this doom and gloom stuff, y'no much easier to be a negative thinker than a positive one.
Problem with all that is, once I tried searching the actual facts and analysis to back up all these theories I was clinging to, I found far more evidence debunking them than supporting them. The truth will set you free.
Sure, it kinda sucked having to give up all my paranoid dilusional beleifs. Took a while before I could walk down the street without hiding from black helicopters and such. But man, I feel sooo much better now. Only fear I have left is John Q Law finding my stash, at least I can retain some of my paranoia.
Many people have lived their entire lives thinking the way you do Pisshead. Most have died alone and miserable, only to leave the paranoid dilusions to a new generation. They will be with us probably for the rest of mankinds existance. Maybe someday, you guys will get lucky and some of your dilusions will become reality. Untill then I prefer to let the facts back up my beleifs.
By the way, who the hell is Alex Jones?
"By the way, who the hell is Alex Jones?"
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/video/120...llaw_wm56k.htm
He is PH's master! This link should tell you what he is.
Toker
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/...martiallaw.htm
That last one was for dial up, here are some more ways to view it. This is the type of "editing" that gets done for AJ.
Toker
thanks for posting that again.
that would be the trailer. you're really new to this whole thing, aren't you?
New to this??? Let me just refresh your memory a little PH. What we are doing here is nothing new to you or me.
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/me...shtml?1x38679x
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/me...shtml?1x41062x
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/msg1x49877.shtml
From that last one you are dragged in and completely taken over by AJ. It's interesting because if you read your first posts, and then move a little farther in the future, you can see just how fast you fall for him. If you look before your "awakening" you will see that I was already doing what it is we are doing now long before you were enlightened. Missleading statements do not solve problems pisshead.
"i find it hard to believe that the better part of 300 million people are brainwashed and there are a select few, you included, that know the truth.
you are sucked into the conspiracy theorist propaganda just like you think we are brainwashed by our (meaning the US)government to think what we think.
i found no facts. and some guy writes a popular book and you believe it? how do YOU know for a fact this is what happened? you don't. you weren't there. you are BELIEVING what you read and trying to spread it to others who are brainwashed."
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/me...shtml?1x38679x
Thats from one of your early post's pisshead. I wonder if history will repeat it's self?
Toker
I am going to go back through Lib Tokers past postings, and I'll be sure to highlight any discrepancies or changes of mind that he so delights in highlighting for everyone else.
All you are showing is that pisshead has learned as he got older. Isn't that what we are all supposed to do?
Granted, some people do it better than others, but I am sure that even you must have changed your opinions at some point in your life!
that's quite a concept you've stumbled across there redi... and you'd think people would be able to realize that. i often do go back and look at those old posts, and i often wonder how could i have been so naive...then i started studying the history of evil and corrupt governments going back thousands of years...
not to mention, i don't have the secret, propaganda free information that toker gets...he can't let us know what it is either. but he has all the answers.
Read it again redi! It was about this being new to us, and how fast he was sucked in. Not that he changed his opinion. Keep trying man, your bound to stumble on to something to effectively use against me some day. Feel free to go through my post's anyway. I wouldn't mind seeing how you say I have changed.
Toker
yes, this is all a creation of alex jones, for fame and fortune...
you're onto his master plan.
I agree with you completely toker, and I think your logic is sound. Probably not good to take advice on logic from a conspiracy theorist anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by pisshead
The old 'it's happened before so it must be happening now' fallacy. Your arguments are so one sided pisshead, they just can't be taken seriously. You should broaden your horizons a little, maybe read some literature that's contrary to your viewpoint. That's always useful when forming an informed opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by pisshead