Question: Do you consider the U.S. to be exporting terrorism to Arab countries. Does the USA have a terrorist government?
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Question: Do you consider the U.S. to be exporting terrorism to Arab countries. Does the USA have a terrorist government?
YES, the USA has a terrorist government! They have always consistently had a holier-than-thou approach to global affairs, as though they know better than other countries, they are the world police, and everyone should follow their example. Really, if the world is a playground, America is the bully that demands the other kids' (countries') lunch money. Anyone who doesn't give them their lunch money has sand kicked in his face. The only way to stop it is for every kid in the playground to attack and beat up the bully.
Now, I know everyone's going to point to America's freedom and democracy...guess what? Canada has equal freedoms and democracy to America, the difference is that we are a nation of peace.
It's nice to proclaim that when you got big bro to the south to protect your asses for these many years........your welcome!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by cannabis=freedom
Have a good one!:s4:
LOL........no, we're the terrorist exterminators because our "allies" are to busy sitting on their thumbs.......i.e./ France, Germany, etc.....Quote:
Originally Posted by medicinal
How do the Chinese deal with the Muslim extremists? LOL
Have a good one!:s4:
How do the Chinese deal with the Muslim extremists? LOL
I really don't know this one, How do they? I'd guess there really isn't a large Muslim populace in Bejing.
China has executed a Muslim activist for attempting ??to split the motherland? and possessing firearms and explosives.
The death by firing squad of Ismail Semed was criticised by human rights groups, who claimed that there was insufficient evidence to justify the sentence.
Semed, an ethnic Uighur, was deported from Pakistan in 2003 and convicted two years later. During his trial he said that he had been forced to sign a confession. He was executed on Thursday in Urumqi, capital of the mainly Muslim region of Xinjiang, northwest China.
China executes Muslim ‘extremist’-News-World-Asia-TimesOnline
No bleeding heart b.s. coming out of China.......just t.c.b. They recognize the problem and nip it in the bud.:thumbsup:
Have a good one!:s4:
No bleeding heart b.s. coming out of China.......just t.c.b. They recognize the problem and nip it in the bud.
Are you advocating mass firing squad executions on Muslims. That ought to go over like a fart in church.
I can think of one s.o.b. up in Michigan that spoke at the winter D.N.C. but like you stated though, it'd go over like a fart in church.Quote:
Originally Posted by medicinal
Have a good one!:s4:
It's so cute the way p4b and Medicinal banter back and forth. Seriously I'm not being sarcastic.
Why thank you.........he's on a learning curve so ya got to forgive him....LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Rowansraven
Have a good one!:s4:
Well the U.S.A did hire Blackwater sercurities to handle some of the work in Iraq close to 50 000 merceneries are in Iraq and they dont have anybody to answer too.
From who? If I remember correctly, Canada hasn't been under any threat of any kind of attack since 1812, and who was that from....oh yes, it was America. And we did win, even though you claim a draw like Vietnam (yeah right), because your goal was to take us, and our goal was to stop it, which we did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Canada does not need military protection because we do not piss off other nations, as we are not bullies. The free trade agreement has also completely fucked Canada over, since the States gets our resources and we seem to get little in return except for tariffs which violate the agreement, and a forced obtaining of a passport for American travel.
Sorta makes you fell like you should have lost. Then at you could the fucker and not the fuckee.Quote:
Originally Posted by cannabis=freedom
Are we talking about an independent Canada or the one that was sucking the Queen of Englands tit? LMAO!!! I think the baby was able to walk on it's own in the late 1800's "If I remember correctly".:DQuote:
Originally Posted by cannabis=freedom
Have a good one!:s4:
...in 1940...Canadian commandos and American volunteers formed the "Devil's Brigade"...to fight the Nazi's..SSF...Quote:
Originally Posted by cannabis=freedom
The queen is just a figure head in this country.Just like Bush is a figure head in your country,But at least Canadians dont go around bombing innocent Iraqs in the name of the war on terrorism.
LOL....lets seriously look at the facts.Quote:
Originally Posted by fishman3811
-17 U.N. resolutions broke by Saddam
-The U.S. congress passed a resolution giving the right to invade if the U.N. was deemed inefficient.
-Which lead to the discovery of Food for Oil + arms sales
France
France controls over 22.5 percent of Iraq's imports.[1] French total trade with Iraq under the oil-for-food program is the third largest, totaling $3.1 billion since 1996, according to the United Nations.[2]
In 2001 France became Iraq's largest European trading partner. Roughly 60 French companies did an estimated $1.5 billion in trade with Baghdad in 2001 under the U.N. oil-for-food program.[3]
France's largest oil company, Total Fina Elf, has negotiated extensive oil contracts to develop the Majnoon and Nahr Umar oil fields in southern Iraq. Both the Majnoon and Nahr Umar fields are estimated to contain as much as 25 percent of the country's oil reserves. The two fields purportedly contain an estimated 26 billion barrels of oil.[4] In 2002, the non-war price per barrel of oil was $25. Based on that average these two fields have the potential to provide a gross return near $650 billion.
France's Alcatel company, a major telecom firm, is negotiating a $76 million contract to rehabilitate Iraq's telephone system.[5]
In 2001 French carmaker Renault SA sold $75 million worth of farming equipment to Iraq.[6]
More objections have been lodged against French export contracts with Iraq than any other exporting country under the oil-for-food program, according to a report published by the London Times. In addition French companies have signed contracts with Iraq worth more than $150 million that are suspected of being linked to its military operations.[7] Some of the goods offered by French companies to Iraq, detailed by UN documents, include refrigerated trucks that can be used as storage facilities and mobile laboratories for biological weapons.
Iraq owes France an estimated $6 billion in foreign debt accrued from arms sales in the 1970s and '80s.[8]
From 1981 to 2001, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI), France was responsible for over 13 percent of Iraq's arms imports.[9]
Germany
Direct trade between Germany and Iraq amounts to about $350 million annually, and another $1 billion is reportedly sold through third parties.[10]
It has recently been reported that Saddam Hussein has ordered Iraqi domestic businesses to show preference to German companies as a reward for Germany's "firm positive stand in rejecting the launching of a military attack against Iraq." It was also reported that over 101 German companies were present at the Baghdad Annual exposition.[11]
During the 35th Annual Baghdad International Fair in November 2002, a German company signed a contract for $80 million for 5,000 cars and spare parts.[12]
In 2002, DaimlerChrysler was awarded over $13 million in contracts for German trucks and spare parts.[13]
Germany is owed billions by Iraq in foreign debt generated during the 1980's.[14]
German officials are investigating a German corporation accused of illegally channeling weapons to Iraq via Jordan. The equipment in question is used for boring the barrels of large cannons and is allegedly intended for Saddam Hussein's Al Fao Supercannon project.[15] An article in the German daily Tageszeitung reported that of the more than 80 German companies that have done business with Baghdad since around 1975 and have continued to do so up until 2001, many have supplied whole systems or components for weapons of mass destruction.
Russia
Russia controls roughly 5.8 percent of Iraq's annual imports.[16] Under the U.N. oil-for-food program, Russia's total trade with Iraq was somewhere between $530 million and $1 billion for the six months ending in December of 2001.[17]
According to the Russian Ambassador to Iraq, Vladimir Titorenko, new contracts worth another $200 million under the U.N. oil-for-food program are to be signed over the next three months.[18]
Russia's LUKoil negotiated a $4 billion, 23-year contract in 1997 to rehabilitate the 15 billion-barrel West Qurna field in southern Iraq. Work on the oil field was expected to commence upon cancellation of U.N. sanctions on Iraq. The deal is currently on hold.[19]
In October 2001, Salvneft, a Russian??Belarus company, negotiated a $52 million service contract to drill at the Tuba field in Southern Iraq.[20]
In April 2001, Russia's Zaruezhneft and Tatneft companies received a service contract to drill in the Saddam, Kirkuk, and Bai Hassan fields to rehabilitate the fields and reduce water incursion. Together the deals were valued at $13.2 million.[21]
A future $40 billion Iraqi??Russian economic agreement, reportedly signed in 2002, would allow for extensive oil exploration opportunities throughout western Iraq.[22] The proposal calls for 67 new projects, over a 10-year time frame, to explore and further develop fields in southern Iraq and the Western Desert, including the Suba, Luhais, West Qurna, and Rumaila projects. Additional projects added to the deal include second-phase construction of a pipeline running from southern to northern Iraq, and extensive drilling and gas projects. Work on these projects would commence upon cancellation of sanctions.[23]
Russia's Gazprom Company over the past few years has signed contracts worth $18 million to repair gas stations in Iraq.[24]
The former Soviet Union was the premier supplier of Iraqi arms. From 1981 to 2001, Russia supplied Iraq with 50 percent of its arms.[25]
Soviet-era debt of $7 billion through $8 billion was generated by arms sales to Iraq during the 1980??1988 Iran??Iraq war.
Three Russian firms are suspected of selling electronic jamming equipment, antitank missiles and thousands of night-vision goggles to Iraq in violation of U.N. sanctions.[26] Two of the companies identified are Aviaconversiya and KBP Tula.
China
China controls roughly 5.8 percent of Iraq's annual imports.[27]
China National Oil Company, partnered with China North Industries Corp., negotiated a 22-year-long deal for future oil exploration in the Al Ahdab field in southern Iraq.[28]
In recent years, the Chinese Aero-Technology Import??Export Company (CATIC) has been contracted to sell "meteorological satellite" and "surface observation" equipment to Iraq. The U.N. oil-for-food program approved this contract.[29]
CATIC also won approval from the U.N. in July 2000 to sell $2 million worth of fiber optic cables. This and similar contracts approved were disguised as telecommunications gear. These cables can be used for secure data and communications links between national command and control centers and long-range search radar, targeting radar, and missile-launch units, according to U.S. officials. In addition, China National Electric Wire & Cable and China National Technical Import Telecommunications Equipment Company are believed to have sold Iraq $6 million and $15.5 million worth of communications equipment and other unspecified supplies, respectively.[30]
According to a report from SIPRI, from 1981 to 2001, China was the second largest supplier of weapons and arms to Iraq, supplying over 18 percent of Iraq's weapons imports.[31]
Facts on Who Benefits From Keeping Saddam Hussein In Power
-And lets not forget about acts of genocide on his own people
-Paying families of martyrs
Well, both of our figure heads said enough is enough.........just to bad the brat child of the Queen decided to act this way....."We're against this illegal war but when the dust settles you'll see our oil rigs being the first launched":thumbsup:
Have a good one!:s4:
at some point all political organizations use some form of terrorism to solidify their power. all of this holier-than-thou posing from around the world is just so much hypocritical bullshit. seldom in the history of mankind have we seen any rise to power that did not utilize some form of strong arm tactics and on those few occasions where strictly peaceful means were used, the power attained was tenuous and fleeting at best.
has the us condoned terrorist acts around the world? of course, as have all other major powers throughout history. the world is a violent place and safety is an illusion that only the ignorant truly believe in. has the us exported terrorism? there was never any need to, it exists everywhere. the fearful ignore it and the greedy embrace the chaos it engenders, but only a fool would claim that its origin is anything but universal.
throughout its recent history the us has attempted to bring some sort of order to the far reaches of the globe. though the goal may be seen as noble by some, it has brought this country nothing but ridicule and suffering. while all counties have attempted to profit from the general tumult, at least the us has also attempted to alleviate some of the suffering.
if you are going to label a society, at least have the decency to take all of its act into account before passing judgment.
to you peaceful canadians:
you might just keep in mind that canada has always been more than willing to join in the mayhem to curry favor with the big boys; never getting in deep enough to be blamed if things go wrong, but always enough to share in any spoils that might happen their way.
hi ho
America has done some wonderful things in the past and I'm sure it will do more. The problem as I see it is: The American people have no say in government. The government is controlled by corporations and the foriegn policy is dominated by greedy pricks that tend to benefit from whatever the policies are, IE oil companies, Mining companies, Manufacturers that use foriegn labor, any corporation that can get it cheaper there than here. There is no allegiance to the American voter, the citizenry. The corporations have even become so brazen as to move their offices offshore to avoid paying corporate income tax, yet expect all the protections the US government can supply. This insanity must stop. The tax burden has been shifted from the corporations and the wealthy to the middle class. It's time for a change!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by delusionsofNORMALity
It seems corporations greed was a major factor in invading Iraq you just have to look where the oil is.What did Bush say just after 9/11 something to the effect of dont let the terrorists win dont stop shopping.
I wonder if Saddams fate was decided after he announced he would sell his oil for Euros rather than greenbacks.
I'm sure it was part of the equation.1962.2[1]_edited.jpg (336.2 KB) Secret plans!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by fishman3811
my god im in love hahhaQuote:
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Aaaaaaaaah the world is a fucking shithole where various governments and groups use violence and terror to compete for money and power.
Only one solution.....
A hippy world government has to come to power over all the world's people, and some technology has to be developed so that all weapons can be destroyed and never built again.
Brilliant plan, but first you'd have to eliminate all the greedy pricks. How do you do that. I'd say about 60-80 percent of Americans fall into that category. Like it's allright if you take someone elses stuff, but don't fuck with mine, Let me have my Hummer and big screen, it's the American way. Americans are way too spoiled to change. As was postulated in the Bilderburg report, We need to eliminate about 40% of the worlds population so the rest of us will have sufficient energy supplies. Do you believe you are in the 60%, or are you part of the 40% thats got to go. Geeze, if they just nuked the middle east and China without any retaliation, that would do it. Do you suppose that's the plan?Quote:
Originally Posted by cannabis=freedom
Power and monet corrupt everyone.Whats that disease Micheal Jacksons got where his skin turns white?OH yeah its called money.Why does the U.S Gov hate rappers?Is it because they have a shit load of money and money =power.Maybe