Catholic=Christian=Athiest

They all believe that God is somewhere up there in Heaven and not here on Earth, and certainly not inside themselves. So you see my beloved, even most religious people have created an image of God as being outside of and separated from themselves. Many religious people look at atheists or materialists and believe that they themselves are far more pleasing to God than the people who deny God's existence. But you see my beloved, most religious people are also denying God's existence because they are denying God's existence within themselves and within everything that surrounds them.

As I explained earlier, God created everything out of his own substance, his own Being, his own consciousness. So everything you see around you is simply God wearing a disguise, and everything you see inside of you is also God wearing a disguise. And you yourself are God wearing a disguise. And this is what most religious people fail to see, and therefore they too are denying God. It is not a fundamentally different kind of denial than that promoted by atheists; it is different only by degree. The atheists simply say that God is not, and most religious people say that God is not here.

Both of these beliefs are a denial of God because God is everywhere and God is everything. So what happens here is that in their minds people have created a false image of reality. Both the atheists and the religious people have created the image that they themselves, and the world in which they live, are not God.

This is indeed a violation of the very first commandment that thou shalt have no other gods before me. When God is everywhere and God is in everything, if you do not see God in everything, then you are worshiping a false God. If you see God up in Heaven and deny his presence within you, you are worshiping an idol, and you are dancing around the golden calf.

What you have done in your mind is that you have created an image, and your are saying, "This is God, this is reality, this is truth." And then you project that image upon reality and you begin to build a mental box around your mind. And as a soul continues to reembody on planet Earth, it reinforces that mental box, until the mental box is solid and will not let in any of the light or the truth of God that is continually shining upon the Earth from the spiritual realm.
~Sananda aka Jesus Christ

it makes some sense... i think, though, there is some small flaws in your argumentation. right now im too lazy and baked to write and make some sense. maybe later i return and write it. or maybe somebody else do this work for me.

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it makes some sense... i think, though, there is some small flaws in your argumentation. right now im too lazy and baked to write and make some sense. maybe later i return and write it. or maybe somebody else do this work for me.

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agreed.

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

They all believe that God is somewhere up there in Heaven and not here on Earth, and certainly not inside themselves.

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I stopped reading right there because atheists don't beleive in any god and I was raised catholic and it was beaten into my head that god was inside of me...so I came to the conclusion that you really didnt think your post through good enough that the opening sentence is incorrect so reading the rest would be a waste of my time.

I also find it highly unusual that you claim to be also known as jesus christ. You're definatly no jesus.

I agree. I'm a Christian with the belief that God lives inside me.
It's not only a belief, I carry the substance and evidence that he does. His presence doesn't make me God. It's God with us. :hippy:

"Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

I agree with the two previous posts... PureEvil doesn't seem to know what he's talking about, or, who he's talking too...

Why bother to keep reading if your intro is a fairytale anyway?

When are you going to get off this ego trip pure? You know, the one where you feel so superior because of how you've "mastered your ego"? I understand it and all but... it's been awhile now.

That was a channeling of Sananda, i did not write that cant u guys fucking see the bottom -Sananda??? damn fuckin blind mofos. 40oz, u should have read more because it does say that athiests and religeous are the same. Why do u guys keep thinking im coming up with this stuff? This is fuckin Jesus, its kind of funny that ur all dissagreeing with Jesus lol...fools

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I agree with the two previous posts... PureEvil doesn't seem to know what he's talking about, or, who he's talking too...

Why bother to keep reading if your intro is a fairytale anyway?

When are you going to get off this ego trip pure? You know, the one where you feel so superior because of how you've "mastered your ego"? I understand it and all but... it's been awhile now.

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Wow poly u just said some major hipocritical shit damn..ok first. Why bother to keep reading into a fairytale?..uh ur in a fairytale right now that i want to help people get out of, so maybe you should answer that question for yourself. I do not feel superior in anyway, I feel that everyone is me and I am everyone, its like being pissed at yourself for doing somthing stupid. I have not mastered ego by any means. Just by saying what you said it points to me that your sir are the one who is tripping BALLS off ego, so step down man, its for ur own good.

where does jesus say that at cuz last time i read da bible it said that we should accept jesus into our hearts.....he IS within me

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Wow poly u just said some major hipocritical shit damn..ok first. Why bother to keep reading into a fairytale?..uh ur in a fairytale right now that i want to help people get out of, so maybe you should answer that question for yourself.

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You've never read that one huh? You don't know what happens to the One who tries to free the troglodytes from their shackles?

they fucking kill him for being such an insufferable prick all the time.

Oh wait, I feel the spirit moving, I'm about to channel something:

"Obey your thirst. Sprite."

-sananda

well in real life at least 3 or 4 people have said i am the coolest person they have ever met, i try to be humble in real life, because society is seriosly flawed and it is just somthing i need to deal with. On here I just see how bad it really, its really fun to fuck with..especially yours. and krazy chino, that was part of a channeling of Sananda (which is jesus spiritual form name) which took place in 2004.

When people talk about God they usually refer to either God the Father, or Jesus the Son, but the Holy Spirit/Ghost is equal to the rest of the trinity. at least if you believe in the holy trinity, but thats the method God is within people today, it's not Jesus, but it also is...deep philisophical stuff that i'll have to descramble later for i'm not done hittin the vap

people shouldent really worry about where they go when they die, if anything happens that isnt returning to the source/ur true spiritual form. All that happens is stuff to guide you there.

I agree with your posts. Many "religous" people view God as a faraway being up in heaven looking down on us. But in reality, God is everything and everything is God.

God is omnipotent. This concept is crucial to understand christian religion.
"Split a piece of wood, and I am there"--Jesus

OK, now im sober and awake enough. So, lets go.

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

They all believe that God is somewhere up there in Heaven and not here on Earth, and certainly not inside themselves. So you see my beloved, even most religious people have created an image of God as being outside of and separated from themselves. Many religious people look at atheists or materialists and believe that they themselves are far more pleasing to God than the people who deny God's existence. But you see my beloved, most religious people are also denying God's existence because they are denying God's existence within themselves and within everything that surrounds them.

As I explained earlier, God created everything out of his own substance, his own Being, his own consciousness. So everything you see around you is simply God wearing a disguise, and everything you see inside of you is also God wearing a disguise. And you yourself are God wearing a disguise. And this is what most religious people fail to see, and therefore they too are denying God. It is not a fundamentally different kind of denial than that promoted by atheists; it is different only by degree. The atheists simply say that God is not, and most religious people say that God is not here.

Both of these beliefs are a denial of God because God is everywhere and God is everything. So what happens here is that in their minds people have created a false image of reality. Both the atheists and the religious people have created the image that they themselves, and the world in which they live, are not God.

This is indeed a violation of the very first commandment that thou shalt have no other gods before me. When God is everywhere and God is in everything, if you do not see God in everything, then you are worshiping a false God. If you see God up in Heaven and deny his presence within you, you are worshiping an idol, and you are dancing around the golden calf.

What you have done in your mind is that you have created an image, and your are saying, "This is God, this is reality, this is truth." And then you project that image upon reality and you begin to build a mental box around your mind. And as a soul continues to reembody on planet Earth, it reinforces that mental box, until the mental box is solid and will not let in any of the light or the truth of God that is continually shining upon the Earth from the spiritual realm.
~Sananda aka Jesus Christ

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but, damn... now i agree with you... unfortunately, most of religious people fails to realize God is everywhere... of course, its not an excuse to start worshipping a tree, or a stone. And its not an excuse to worship yourself, cause God is within you either. We should worship him as God, which is everywhere, and is far beyond our comprehension, our concepts, beyond everything, in fact.
Anyway, i think He is merciful enough to aknowledge the effort of those whom really seeks and tries to worship Him with devotion, even if they dont know Him as He really is.

i think that there are some people who deny god in the lets say "genie" form, but still have lots of god in their heart, meaning, they are righteous, and i believe some people go to church everyday and still have no god in their heart, for they are unrighteous in the heart. i guess it all depends on how he wants you to be, but i deffinetely see that people that have faith are very positive people to be around, giving them their own light, all they have to do is talk and people send their blessings naturally

Eh, I don't agree with the way man has made religion, I think that us having god this great almighty being who we are supposed to appease,humor,worship, and keep within the realm of certain requirements to hopefully earn a reward at the end of our lives is absurd. I agree that God Exists, but I do not agree with the way man has chosen to handle God. Even then honestly I know that man is not capable of fully understanding if at all God. Been learning a lot from that What the Bleep Do We Know Quantum Physics movie. Very interesting.. what's also very intriguing is how no other science can't explain Jesus's miracles. The only science that fits in there is Quantum Physics. One of the teachings of it is that if you fully believe with every fiber of your being that you can do something. It will be so, but just us thinking positively can is just a small smudge on a big block of negativity. All positive thinking does is mask the underlying doubtfulness. Possibly drifted off subject but who cares

dood, i understand how u look at it, but thats ebcause you haev not done your reading, ofcorse no 1 is perfect, but the faith will bring you the award before your death, it states that even if you are a sinner, having faith in god is truely having god, no 1 can help the world of sin unless they are given power, but without that power u can have faith, which leads to that power in my opinion, you dont have to be part of the brady bunch to have god

I just don't buy into the whole religion thing, doesn't seem right at all..I am raised Catholic, but as i've gotten older its just gotten less and less convincing

well, i feel you on that, religion does nothing but cause war, but spirituality causes peace, spirituality is also reached through the use of many herbs and or drugs around the world today, SO LETS TOKE A BLUNT!

I have more time to think about this stuff, i'm only 15 hahaha, but hell yeah to the blunt part man:rastasmoke:

im only 17 :), yes you will have time, i changed dramatically just with third eye meditation, opened me up to a couple new worlds, or ways to look at life

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Very interesting.. what's also very intriguing is how no other science can't explain Jesus's miracles. The only science that fits in there is Quantum Physics. One of the teachings of it is that if you fully believe with every fiber of your being that you can do something. It will be so, but just us thinking positively can is just a small smudge on a big block of negativity. All positive thinking does is mask the underlying doubtfulness. Possibly drifted off subject but who cares

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There are about 4000 people that have the abilities of jesus, anyone can have them but few try or even suspect they can. Some of the things you could do is teleport to amsterdam for breakfast, japan for lunch and italy for dinner instantly. If you ever see one the only reason is that you were meant to see them, and they are there to guide you to change direction even very slightly possibly, to cause a chain reaction to somone else's mastery. They can appear as anyone, heal anyone instantly, have all the abilities of any psycic, make anything needed appear out of nothing and talk to angels and spirits regularly. And thier goal is to make everyone like them.

my own goal is become one like them... will i succeed? only God knows...

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

There are about 4000 people that have the abilities of jesus, anyone can have them but few try or even suspect they can. Some of the things you could do is teleport to amsterdam for breakfast, japan for lunch and italy for dinner instantly. If you ever see one the only reason is that you were meant to see them, and they are there to guide you to change direction even very slightly possibly, to cause a chain reaction to somone else's mastery. They can appear as anyone, heal anyone instantly, have all the abilities of any psycic, make anything needed appear out of nothing and talk to angels and spirits regularly. And thier goal is to make everyone like them.

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You're ridiculous pure evil. I love it.

yeah, here is the deal. i don't really feal like a debate but i'll make a couple random points. organized religon has become a farse and a scam in alot of cases. don't take this as me saying i don't believe in God, i do, whole heartedly. i just don't think i have to go to a specified building or area to talk to him or worship in his presence. if every person in the world read the same religous book (bible, koran, whatever) every person in the world would interperat differnt scriptures in a differnt way. take time and study some ancient religions and Gods. im talking like the egyptians and peoples from the time period before Christ was born, before the Bible was even writen. you will find similar stories in every religon. the story of Noah's ark is told in several differnt cultures, albeit other names and places are used but its the same story. there are several other stories that are recurring in differnt cultures around the world. if you have any intrest in studying organized religion take a look at some of the stories and compare them to other cultures. its worth a look and you might be suprised at what you find. and last but not least i believe that its a lifestyle and not so much a religion that whatever God you might worship wants from you. i dunno. just a few random thoughts

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Originally Posted by 40oz

You're ridiculous pure evil. I love it.

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i mett a prophet that knew eveyrhting about my personal life without me telling him, pure evil is not kidding, some people will get to enjoy the earths heavenly glory, others are too stuck up because they didnt get their dream girl

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Originally Posted by 40oz

You're ridiculous pure evil. I love it.

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Well 1 of 2 things will happen with this person.. 1 he dies, 2 he realizes I was right..well acctually if he dies he will realize i was right also so..uh this post is pointless.

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i mett a prophet that knew eveyrhting about my personal life without me telling him, pure evil is not kidding, some people will get to enjoy the earths heavenly glory, others are too stuck up because they didnt get their dream girl

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me too... not exactly prophets, but i know lots of people can say what is happening in your life, the most hidden feelings of your heart, sometimes what still will happen with you in the future... and its real... and f*cking scary too...

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Originally Posted by PureEvil760

They all believe that God is somewhere up there in Heaven and not here on Earth, and certainly not inside themselves. So you see my beloved, even most religious people have created an image of God as being outside of and separated from themselves. Many religious people look at atheists or materialists and believe that they themselves are far more pleasing to God than the people who deny God's existence. But you see my beloved, most religious people are also denying God's existence because they are denying God's existence within themselves and within everything that surrounds them.

As I explained earlier, God created everything out of his own substance, his own Being, his own consciousness. So everything you see around you is simply God wearing a disguise, and everything you see inside of you is also God wearing a disguise. And you yourself are God wearing a disguise. And this is what most religious people fail to see, and therefore they too are denying God. It is not a fundamentally different kind of denial than that promoted by atheists; it is different only by degree. The atheists simply say that God is not, and most religious people say that God is not here.

Both of these beliefs are a denial of God because God is everywhere and God is everything. So what happens here is that in their minds people have created a false image of reality. Both the atheists and the religious people have created the image that they themselves, and the world in which they live, are not God.

This is indeed a violation of the very first commandment that thou shalt have no other gods before me. When God is everywhere and God is in everything, if you do not see God in everything, then you are worshiping a false God. If you see God up in Heaven and deny his presence within you, you are worshiping an idol, and you are dancing around the golden calf.

What you have done in your mind is that you have created an image, and your are saying, "This is God, this is reality, this is truth." And then you project that image upon reality and you begin to build a mental box around your mind. And as a soul continues to reembody on planet Earth, it reinforces that mental box, until the mental box is solid and will not let in any of the light or the truth of God that is continually shining upon the Earth from the spiritual realm.
~Sananda aka Jesus Christ

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In the beging was the word[christ] and the word was with God , and the word
was God. He was in the begining with God. Through Him all things were made
with out Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was life, and that
life was the light of men.THE LIGHT SHINES IN THE DARKNESS, BUT THE
DARKNESS HAS NOT UNDERSTOOD IT.

Darkness cannot touch or understand the light because Darkness is re-action, light is action.