If you worked behind a bar would you serve a pregnant woman with alcohol?
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If you worked behind a bar would you serve a pregnant woman with alcohol?
Yes - what kind of a question is that? Why would I be working in a bar? I don't care about her or her offspring.:pimp:
I'd serve her. It's not my business what anyone does while they're pregnant, and it's not in my right to interfere.
BUT, if she started having multiple drinks, I would advise her that she is pregnant, and maybe she should consider the health of their child. I wouldn't refuse her, but I would make a suggestion.
Her life, her choices.
Pretty much what Nochowder said.
could you not serve her???
I'll do my job and serve her.
HELL NO, I wouldn't. You wanna drink yourself to death, fine, but I don't stand by while innocent people get abused.
That said, are you sure she's prego, cause once I almost congradulated someone on their soon-to-be offspring, but didn't just in case. She wasn't pregnant, oops. Also my in-law was congradulated 2-3 times before she got pregnant. Some women just get fat guts.
your job isnt surgeon general, or better yet moral judge. its bartender.
you pour, you serve. you dont question. your job isnt to imply or push your beliefs.
this establishment reserves the right to refuse service to anyone.
fuck no.
I personally wouldnt serve her.
if you failed to serve another race with no explaination, it would be construed as racism, and you would possibly be facing a potential civil rights lawsuit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Polymirize
that term doesnt mean the establishment reserves the right to pass judgement on anyone. and personal belief should not be enforced in the workplace.
thats my 2 cents.
I'd probably explain to her the risks and then let her make the choice and go with that :jointsmile:
would you be fired if you didnt serve her? I know you its bad to pass judgement, but thats dangerous. If it was like a glass of whine I might look the other way, but beyond that I dont know what I would do.
well we cant be judging what alcohol is good and what is bad. alcohol is alcohol.Quote:
Originally Posted by napolitana869
you know that totally brings to light a cultural bias I didnt realize I had. You're right though. I get more of a buzz from a glass of wine than from a beer. I never thought of it that way.
well most wine consists of roughly 12-15 percent alcohol content.Quote:
Originally Posted by napolitana869
most beers around 5-6 percent.
thats most likely why!
yeah I know, but culturally we're taught that drinking a glass of wine is "better" than drinking a beer because its a high status activity. Sorry I'm having the type of high where I really read into things
what about the crust punks drinking boones farm wine? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by napolitana869
Heres a similar example of personal ethics in the workplace which I think is bad
Rightwing and catholic pharamacists started refusing to sell morning after and birth control pills because of their own personal beliefs, which should have nothing to do with someone elses business
I dont think the two are comparableQuote:
Originally Posted by NextLineIsMine
hes more so replying to my statement "personal ethics dont belong in the workplace" rather than comparing the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by napolitana869
but it is comparable in the sense of personal ethics being enforced in the workplace.
sure, i'd do it.
oh god, that happened to me a few months ago and i felt horrible...Quote:
Originally Posted by cfvgcfvg
i was at walmart and i saw a woman alone near me who looked unmistakeably pregnant. and i, just trying to be nice, said "congratulations on the baby, whens the sweetheart due?"
oh god i was so ashamed...:(
Would you let your friend, who is smashed, drunk, totally inebriated drive home? Or would you be concerned for their safety?
whats that have to do with this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by midlifecrisis
drunk driving is illegal.
drinking whilst pregnant is not.
OK, Let's say your friend wants to practice juggling chainsaws (for the first time) would you stop them???Quote:
Originally Posted by halfassedjediknight
The point is, if you know something is not right, would you let it happen?
The law does not always dictate your conscious.
whos to say juggling chainsaws isnt right?Quote:
Originally Posted by midlifecrisis
dude youre 12.
edit: that was wrong of me to say. but still, if someone is juggling chainsaws, they obviously are skilled enough to be.
i have yet to hear a reasonable arguement from you.
ps, this brings me back to "personal belief does not belong in the workplace"
you can push all your consciencious beliefs all you want..but that all stops at work.
I think what he's getting at is that its dangerous and you can kill or damage someone for the rest of their lives. Thats a fact, not a personal belief. Thats the argument.
yeah well anyone drinking can kill or damage. its a bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by napolitana869
the fact is that it is a pregnant woman, and youre debating weither or not to serve her, makes it an entirely personal debate.
I am not condemning chainsaw juggling, however if my friend (who is drunk) decided to try this for the first time , I would like to think I would talk some sense into him.Quote:
Originally Posted by halfassedjediknight
Do you think it is OK for a women to drink whilst pregnant? Or it is just none of your business what she does?
By the way, that was sarcasm in the other thread. :jointsmile:
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Originally Posted by midlifecrisis
actually yeah, it is none of your business.
you arent her personal babysitter, and you arent here to make her choices for her. the fact is that she is a grown woman, and capable of making her own decisions.
and to humor your first comment..yeah if my friend was drunk, had no prior juggling experience..of course i wouldnt let him juggle chainsaws. that is common sense. darrgh.
The person the pregnant woman would be damaging is the child. It’s a debate of if you should intervene in a woman causing permanent physical and mental damage to her baby or should you stay out of it. I don’t know, maybe I’m missing your point.
my point is, its none of your business what the woman is doing, because it is her body.Quote:
Originally Posted by napolitana869
and im not saying drinking doesnt do any harm. trust me i know what fetal alcohol syndrome is.
to get to the point and bottom line...it is a bar, it is your job to serve, and not to push consciencous, religious, or personal beliefs on anyone. period.
I wouldn't serve her. But I'd tell her that there was certainly nothing stopping her from having a drnink in the privacy of her own home, where the only potential liability would be that of herself and her unborn baby.
I also wouldn't serve her if she were drunk and apt to try and drive a car. Again, the liability issue.
I just can't help but think of it in the same way as seeing someone beat their kids.
if drinking whilst pregnant were child abuse, there would be a law against it already.Quote:
Originally Posted by napolitana869
That's how we got the FDA-driven liquor labeling laws in the United States that warn that drinking alcohol may cause harm to a fetus. . . . because it is essentially considered a form of choice-based fetus abuse.
I can't help but feel a little bit sad right now.