~GUYS I REALLY NEED U ON THIS 1~

whell heres the thing.. me and a friend who owns like 15 acers of land are planning to grow a large amount of plants.. the area is known to grow plants evry year and is said a gold mine for planting.. anyways were getting 50 clones and the rest in seeds (250) seeds.. im going to add a fue feminized blueberry and maby northern lights seeds as whell.. so maby 320 - 350 plants all together..

ok i need all advice on when i should buy the seeds when should i plant em, how should i plant them, how often do i water and im gunna be germinateing alot of seeds so whats the best thing to grminate a large quantity of seeds with.. also what soil do i use/fertalizers.. i mean comon it's a plant lmao throw the seeds in the grownd and water lmao.. but i want a top profesinal set-up.. (grade A) like the best of the best :) i cant fuck this up..

evrythings rideing on this set-up.. i just got fired and i need this plan to work..

thanks all who read my hourable spelling and please PLEASE help someone in need out :)

ty in atvance

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Originally Posted by smokealot123

i just got fired and i need this plan to work..

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LOL :stoned:

From the questions you are asking it doesn't sound like you know too much about Marijuana Cultivation. I would highly recommend you start lookin' around for Cannabis growing guides because your first time with that many plants, you're bound to mess something up. A few years ago books and guides weren't as easy to get if you didn't know what you were looking for but now you could probably do an easy search on Google for some guides. I would not recommend going straight into this planting as many seeds as you plan without any experience. Maybe you have more confidence but I wouldn't risk wasting all the possible bud you could get if you had done it right. If your friend grows weed maybe you could learn from him or maybe he could help you maintain your garden.

Holly hell!

I do not even know where to start.

THE MARIJUANA GROWER'S GUIDE..........by Mel Frank & Ed Rosenthal

Start there and I will ponder your vastly overwhelming questions

Okay here is the thing... That is a huge amount of plants.

I am not saying it cannot be done, but you have your work ahead of you.

You need to look at this site in Basic Growing to learn about germinating plants. Also study every post on this site about outdoor growing.

You have a lot of reading to do.

You need to check Seeds and strains for recommendations on strains and where to buy seeds.

When You start seed depends on where you are and what is the last frost date for your area. It also depends on if you start them indoors or outdoors.

If you put over 200 plants close together it is asking to get raided.

Study the growing forums here and then ask more questions.

guys im not really a newbie.. i just wat this grow to be perfect.. like i know all the baseics, and oviously i know how to germinate seeds ffs.. so all i really need to know is things like whats the best soils and like whats the best planting method.. i can handle growing a few plants.. easy.. ive even grew plants outside before.. u might be able to find the thread i made for growing outdoors.. i even got like an OZ from that bush.. it's just i need to know the best alternatives to growng this crop.. ty

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Originally Posted by sharpestoner

Personally, if i was doing a large operation like that..i DEFINITELY wouldn't be posting this information on the internet.

Orangeman is exactly right..by the sounds of it, you aren't sure what you are doing! Getting the first few grows right is difficult enough if you're a newbie...let alone even 20+ plants!!!

I know what you want to hear..that's probably "yeh go for it! It will work out friggin awesome!" but in reality, if you are new to growing, then 350 plants is going to take at least 5 people to manage all of the work! Seriously, that's a fucking huge crop!!!!

You should plant them after than last frost, at least 3-5ft apart. You shouldn't need to bring in soil if the existing ground is good for growing. Maybe just airate the ground by turning over the first few feet of dirt.

Do you have a close source of water? 350 plants=at least 3L of water each every few days=That's over 1 ton of water every few days depending on how much rain you get+hot temperatures.

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why wouldnt i post on the internet ? i didnt even say what i was growing.. whos gunna know what the fuck im talking about ? another thing is i dont understand how i would possiably get tracked down :s

First question is, where are you located (conditions) Also, your going to need the plants to self sustain for the most part, allot of pure pearlite will come in handy, as well as mulch surrounding the plant to hold in moisture. You will want to water every single plant, at least once every 10 days depending on drought or rain conditions. You will have to live in the woods all day long, once every 10 days with food, supplies, ect strapped to your back. Your gonna have get down and dirty.

ok so your plannin on 15 acres with 350 plants right? 1 acre = 43,560 sq feet of land. multiply and figure it out. thats alot of space ur dealing with. is this place hidden? how r u gonna get all that soil out there? what kind of irrigation system r u gonna use? how u gonna afford enuff nutes for the plants? and where the hell u gonna keep all this weed? just curious..

I'm going to make an anology, and at first it will sound stupid, but it is not. Outdoor marijuana growing is a lot like on line Texas Hold-em. If you love doing it, and you stick with it, and if you stay small time, it can be a rewarding hobby. If you charge into it to make money you will become a loser every single time. If any of you have any doubts that hauling out a big crop is anything but terrifying, kindly go to the stories section and read my post under -free money,the night I dash for cash. Next year, I'm staying very small. Smoke a lot, you are a free man, you can't put a price on that.

I just read your story, I can definately fucking relate.

Your buddy is running through cornfields, we run up mountains and down ravines.

I have know of a total newbie that pulled off a large outdoor grow. He did about 60 plants his first year. A person who is motivated and willing to learn can make it happen.

He did of course get busted several years later as he got sloppy.

You can read about this guy in a book called "When Money Grew on Trees".

However there is something else you should consider.

You have mentioned this area is know for growing...So how is the competition in the area going to react when you start selling in their area.

Known growing areas such as the "Green Triangle", have established growers and sellers. They have been established for years. They might not like the idea of someone moving in on their territory.

Okay so lets say you actually can pull off this grow (If you are motivated and can bust some ass, I think you can).

Okay you now have 300 pounds of sweetness. Where are you going to sell it?
I hope you know people in other areas that you trust.

Do not look at this thread is putting you down. It is keeping you in check, that is all.

I only grow personal use, so it is of no concern to me what you do.

If your balls are against the walls- Go do it. But you are going to be busting your ass to make this work. You will earn your money.

Good luck

Getting into the big boys scene is a hard thing to do.

First start you by being a middle man between someone who has lots of weed and alot dealers. The thing is though, that most dealers already have a connection, so selling to good dealers is a hard thing to do, but if you have good stuff and good prices you can establish some dealers who like your product. Then after you work for someone who has lots of weed for a while, you sorta get to know a few other people in the business. Then you can offer your services to other people who grow.

Once you have a few people who grow as your suppliers, your opportunities open as you can get a feel for what areas need weed and when. Once you get a grasp of the whole supply and demand thing of your area (usually a whole state or some area like 200 square miles), then you will know how to constantly keep people supplied and also work prices if you want to get some nice cash.

After you are established in the trafficking community as a trustworthy person, you can start running alot of herb or whatever you are working with. never worked with anything other than the great MJ as:

A) I Love MJ and see nothing wrong with it
B) Crack, coke, meth, opiates are things that I think are wrong (unless for medical, but come on...)
C) If you get caught, MJ is alot better than crack

So once you find out who needs product, then you can start making it yourself and dealing it out to people who deal to small dealers.

SWIM (someone who isn't me) would never get back into that line of work as SWIM is freakin paranoid now and it is really easy to piss people off in that business. How would you like it if you were Walmart and someone built a Target next door? Just be careful and don't piss anyone off!

I don't know anything about this subject as I NEVER DID ANY OF IT!!! EVER!!!! JUST BLOWING SMOKE!

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I'm going to make an anology, and at first it will sound stupid, but it is not. Outdoor marijuana growing is a lot like on line Texas Hold-em. If you love doing it, and you stick with it, and if you stay small time, it can be a rewarding hobby. If you charge into it to make money you will become a loser every single time. If any of you have any doubts that hauling out a big crop is anything but terrifying, kindly go to the stories section and read my post under -free money,the night I dash for cash. Next year, I'm staying very small. Smoke a lot, you are a free man, you can't put a price on that.

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Originally Posted by nitepharmer

I'm going to make an anology, and at first it will sound stupid, but it is not. Outdoor marijuana growing is a lot like on line Texas Hold-em. If you love doing it, and you stick with it, and if you stay small time, it can be a rewarding hobby. If you charge into it to make money you will become a loser every single time. If any of you have any doubts that hauling out a big crop is anything but terrifying, kindly go to the stories section and read my post under -free money,the night I dash for cash. Next year, I'm staying very small. Smoke a lot, you are a free man, you can't put a price on that.

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dude that was a fucking awsem post ty bro.. i love online texas holdem but unfortuneately the site that i play on sais im $9500 in the hole lmao.. ive lost so many times through dumb bluffs and thinking i can bully someone heads up with an ace or weak pair.. it truely sucks.. and i did talk to my partner abut this and we relized it would be too much work to plant the 250 seeds and then scaveng for all the males before they polinate the ladies :) so we have desided to get 80 feminized clones that are all 2 feet tall, and the guy whos selling them to us sais there really strong plants that produce alot of thc and big yeads.. it's his favorite strain from growing for 5 years..

and erwict lmao when i seen that fucking tiger i thought u would bash my thread and poke fun lmao idk just because the tiger kinda resembles in your face attatude.. but ya ty for that post.. i dont think we will have any flaws with growing 2 foot clones :)

and someone asked if the guy would be pissed off by us moveing in on his teretory.. na.. hes my mates bestest friend in the whole world lmao.. there really tight so he wont mind at all..

and as for the long walk/takeing water/fertalizer/and evrything else.. thats no problem because the place is about 500 meters away from my bros house and he has a 4X4 and u can drive right to the spot.. convienent eh.. and yes this place is so godalm well hidden.. and theres no corn fields.. i hear cops fly those hella cocksuckes over the corn filds.. it's just all farm/hourse land and verry rich looking property so we have no problems:)

ty all for helping me out on this 1 ima go smoke a bowl of jack herer we got from the guy whos selling the clones :):):)

oh ya forgot.. i know this is the most top rated questions here *how much* so im just gunna go and say it now.. the clones we are getting at an unbeatable prce of $20 each :) not bad at all for 2 foot amazing plants eh

Jack Herer :jointsmile: That stuff is nice!

I am thinking of trying this when I get a whole bunch of seeds:
Sow the wild seed Sow the Wild Seed

It is about planting seeds in the soil directly and letting nature take its course.

$20 is good for a 2ft clone.

I am not quite talking about your best friend in the whole world for competition, I'm talking about the guy 20-40 miles away who produces 100 lbs at a time. Just be careful!!!!!

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Jack Herer :jointsmile: That stuff is nice!

I am thinking of trying this when I get a whole bunch of seeds:
Sow the wild seed Sow the Wild Seed

It is about planting seeds in the soil directly and letting nature take its course.

$20 is good for a 2ft clone.

I am not quite talking about your best friend in the whole world for competition, I'm talking about the guy 20-40 miles away who produces 100 lbs at a time. Just be careful!!!!!

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ty i agree all my contacts are gunna be pissed because for 1 thing they dont have alot of ppl who pick up off them and they would be buying pot from me lmao *payback time* but it's all good i know people in scarbrough (ALOT) of ppl in scarbrough that are always looking for the sweet cool pound of dank.. and theres about 20 - 30 people within a 2 minute walk from my house who are looking for a new ounce a week.. this place where i live is low drug area.. not too many dealers just buyers and scavengers.. id say i could sell out a pound or 2 at a good high price in 1 day and just a stone flick away.. i also know alot of ppl in bradford/brampton/toronto/maby even get a little vacation to my pad in newfoundland where i lived for 12 years.. and evryone knows that theres nobaudy in newfoundland that doesent smoke pot right :) as a matter of fact i have about 20 family members that i know who smoke .. out of 23 or 25 lmao.. i even have 2 that has a marijuana medical card.. lucky bastards !!!

That is the best way to go in my opinion. If you get into a drug network, crazy shit can happen. If I was to grow for money, I would grow inside, producing around a pound every 2 months. I would have a clone/mother room under fluorescent tubes, then have a flowering chamber with a 600w HPS. You can produce about a pound dried every 2 months that way. Just sell that stuff as soon as its done curing, and stagger curing times so the last jar is used right when the new batch is ready.

Outdoors you can't have perpetual harvests (I think thats the word for it). 1 huge crop every year.

I am working out a deal with my dealer so I can get fresh pot all year around. He is a really good friend of mine so I trust him. I am going to be trading him an oz of dried bud that he will sell, then I am going to get 80% of what he sells it for as credit. Then use that credit to get an 1/8 at a time off of him for the market price.

Take care of those clones until you can get your site ready.

Remember the dude that you bought the clones from is a good resource for any questions you might have about growing them.

Good luck and I am wishing you a bountiful harvest.:thumbsup:

WTF!!! lmao you dont sound like you know alot about pot so why the fuck are you talking about growing 350 plantes and you will only get done by the cops with a crop that big dumb ass damn a good heathy plante well grow two ro three oz so wtf are you going to do with that much pot grow some brains and you will get all males becuse you really have know idea what you are looking for so it will be one big fucking waste any way and the a mont of water and fert you will need for a crop that big fuck you and you're mate are a little retarded!!! lol if you are going to grow a crop that big you would ned about 15years experience and about $600 a week or more to put in to you're crop pffff lol how dumb and even growers that have been growing for a long time still get fucked up and done by the cop's dont come ask some retarded thing like that by the sounds of it 10 plantes would be to much for you and you want to grow 300-350 bahahaha well olater dumbasses ow and you think peoples will not find them you will wake up and have know crop's left lol thats if the animals and the cops dont bit the stilling little basteds to it lol :) lol

I would start with a much smaller number like 20. You need to learn routines and get a feel for how much work one plant will take. I think the most I ever grew was with 2-3 other people was around was 60, and that was a legal grow. Hard work. You should spend a year doing research and apprenticing yourself to someone who knows what their doing. :jointsmile:

Good luck with that.

go for it
just id grow n sell a pund to get the funds to grow ur 80clones
like funds for ferts n shit
peace

hello
I saw your post and thought i would give my advice.

(1)grow alone. why? "less chances of somthing happening or someone ripping you off, less people that know the better"

(2) Too many plants for so few hands. why? "2-3 people can not take care of that many plants properly. Plus going with seeds and clones you never know what you will be getting, Plus knockin up your crop would suck balls.."250 + pollenated plants "seed breeder?"

(3) Get busted. why? "Your friends house family or w.e is at risk and you just need to ask your self is it all worth it? andthat many plants from a choppers view..pfft no problem HELLO CROP. GOOD BYE CROP.

Like i said though dont trust anyone when it comes to that stuff. work alone and do research on growing before you grow, or you will end up with a bunch of doo doo bud/seedy crap etc.. or you will put in alot of work and time and end up getting screwed.

other then that .. good luck and happy farming

hope you think before you do.

take care


BcGrown

Just the thoughts of an old feller thats been around a while.. Don't do it! From your post you seem to be a novice and you want to start growing a forest in a place you have already said is well known to be a good grow site. If you Know its a great grow site because others have told you so I would lay odds the others know also.

I feel for you losing your job but its much better to flip flap Jacks at Waffle House than flip your rear end in the local lock up.

Your speaking of a mix of plants that will require attention, unlike local wild stuff speckled about. And one day with a bright smile on your face you'll trek out to add a bit of water,nutes and love to your investment, while the sun shines bright and all's right with the world, Then 5 men with guns will screw up your whole day, week, month, years...

Rules number 1 when growing outdoors ... No One Knows where you grow! You don't tell your buds, you don't tell your Dog, and you Never plant where others tell you is a great space..

With what your suggesting you wish to do in a fixed area is gona be like sticking a Big Red Flag in the ground and putting up a Come and Get me sign next to it... Just MHO