Take Your Christmas and Stuff It.

Take Your Christmas and Stuff It
By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Dec 09, 2004

"Christmas with the Kranks" is not only the name of a holiday movie this year, it is also a national trend. Once again, Christmas is under siege by the growing forces of secularism in America. Put these facts in your stocking:

Federated Department Stores, which includes Macy's, has suggested that managers avoid displaying "Merry Christmas" banners and have ordered employees not to talk about it.

In Denver, a church was banned from the "Festival of Lights" parade because it wanted a religious theme to its float.

The Maplewood, New Jersey school board has banned all religious music from "holiday" concerts. (Would somebody please tell me exactly what holiday this is?)

And New York City Mayor Bloomberg insists that the lighted tree outside City Hall is not a Christmas tree, it's a "holiday tree." (What holiday, Mr. Mayor?)

Surveys show that more than 90% of Americans celebrate the Federal holiday of Christmas, signed into law by President Grant in 1870. Despite that overwhelming number, the tradition of Christmas in America continues to get hammered.

The anti-Christmas forces say it's all about diversity, protecting the sensitivities of those Americans who get offended by the mere mention of the birth of Jesus. Somehow, I haven't been able to locate any of these people--folks who find a baby in a manger so off-putting, it ruins their day.

So the diversity excuse is a bunch of bull. What's really going on here is a well-organized movement to wipe out any display of organized religion from the public arena.

The secular-progressive movement understands very well that it is organized religion, most specifically Christianity and Judaism, that stands in the way of gay marriage, partial birth abortion, legalized narcotics, euthanasia, and many other secular causes. If religion can be de-emphasized in the USA, a brave new progressive society can be achieved.

It has happened in Canada. Once a traditional religious country, Canada has become like Holland in its embrace of the secular movement. Some facts: In 1980, 79% of Canadians said that religion was important to the country. That number has now fallen to 61%, according to an Environics Focus Canada poll.

In 1971, less than one percent of the Canadian population reported having no religion whatsoever; now that number has risen to 16%.

The fall of religion in Canada has corresponded to a change in public policy. Unlike Americans, Canadians have legalized gay marriage and any kind of abortion. Also, the age of consent for sex up north is just 14 years old. Can you imagine American adults being allowed to fool around with children that age? I can't.

Even drug legalization is close to being a reality, as the city of Vancouver is developing a heroin give-away policy, and pot has been largely decriminalized across the country.

The Canadian model is what progressive Americans are shooting for, and so religion must be dealt with. Since Christmas is the most demonstrative display of organized religion, the strategy of minimizing the birth of Jesus makes perfect sense.

I know this sounds kind of conspiratorial, but it really isn't. Most of those marginalizing Christmas have no idea about the big picture I've just presented. They simply think they're looking out for the minority of Americans who don't celebrate the birth of Christ.

But committed secularists in the media, in the courts, and in the education system know exactly what's going on. And now so do you. Merry Christmas!

I can't believe the age of consent in Canada is 14 years old... that's sickly disturbing If I had a 14 year old child, I certainly wouldn't want them going out and having sex with whomever they please (whether that person be another 14 year old or a 40 year old).

In regards to secularism, I'm not Christian, but I think it's actually quite silly to start banning Christian celebrations, displays, etc. That just leads to an unavoidable double standard for the rest of the religions that are allowed to have such things. Especially since, as everyone knows (even if they bury it in the back of their head), America is actually overwhelmingly Christian.

I don't really give a shit about gay marriage or abortion. That's one thing that justifies the "crusade" against Christianity in America. Christians are so hopped up on what others can/should do, they should take the time to see that they're doing the same thing to gays as the law is starting to do to them: OPRESS.

I say let the Christians have their Christmas, tree and all... the bright lights and Christmas cheer can't be that bad, can it? And let the gays have their marriage if they really want. I mean, are they really hurting you if their love for each other is as legal as a straight couple's? Leave them be.

Torog, whats wrong with diversity? If all shops and stores started celebrating muslim holidays, you wouldnt be happy about it, would you?

Hit the nail on the head there Ghostoker, such wisdom for one so young :op

what the fuck is that smiley?Well, you get the picture...

happy birthday jesus,budda ect ect and every other ICON of religion happy times to you too,
and ghostoker,this is america,where any religion is ok ,ya know
they wanna celebrate muslim holidays,,who cares,let them,all muslims dont want me dead (do they?),why dont ya pick on then hari christners fuks at airports,leave the santa fable tellers alone,,,,,you do know santa is not real dont ya,?
but dont knock x mas, dam man thats like saying fuck the virgin mary to a catholic
they wont take you for anything but a moron then
i do thinks it all a commerical pile of crap but,to those with fiath,its life itself,

oh yea,,,hi torog

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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR

Torog, whats wrong with diversity? If all shops and stores started celebrating muslim holidays, you wouldnt be happy about it, would you?

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Howdy Ghost,

You're right-I would be upset if shops and stores,started celebrating all the muslim holidays,as America,is primarily a Christian country..not muslim or any other religion.

I'm currently celebrating Hannukah with my girlfriend,and she's going to be celebrating Christmas with me. Even she,realizes that Christmas is a Christian holiday-seperate from other religions and Kwanza,she does favor the expression "Happy Holidays",whereas,I call it like it is.."Merry Christmas".

Anyone who hijacks Christmas to push an agenda other than Christian,is insulting and offensive to me,a Christian. We are still a majority,and we will fight back-just like we did in the election-when we re-elected President Bush.

Have a very Merry Christmas ! ...Torog :D

ah well, merry christmas :p

The problem is that people get offended for all sorts of minor stuff now. Me, well I try and enjoy what I like and not give a rat's ass about what other people choose to enjoy and participate in. Unless it directly effects me, then why should I worry if people are not Christian, as long as nobody messes with my lawn nativity scene then I won't be bothered by any santa, minora, kwanza, muslim decorations. People should worry more about themselves and less about others. Who cares what others are doing. Live your life and be happy and stop trying to change other people's lives. :)

That's because they're praying.

This incident took place at a recent ceremony honoring the birthday of the corps, and it has the ACLU up in arms. "These are federal employees," says Lucius Traveler, a spokesman for the ACLU, "on federal property and on federal time. For them to pray is clearly an establishment of religion, and we must nip this in the bud immediately."

:mad: When asked about the ACLU's charges, Colonel Jack Fessender, speaking for the Commandant of the Corps said (cleaned up a bit), "Screw the ACLU." GOD Bless Our Warriors, Send the ACLU to France.

Please send this to people you know so everyone will know how stupid the ACLU is Getting in trying to remove GOD from everything and every place in America. May God Bless America, One Nation Under GOD!

What's wrong with the picture? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING

Clearly the ACLU is once again intentionally confusing spirituality (which is embedded in our constitution) with endorsing a SPECIFIC religion! Our founding fathers were religious people and mentioned God often. The intent of the Constitution was solely to not have the government push a particular religion.

OK how do I get the picture to come up ??? ty

maybe

Everybody is offended by everything anymore. Let the Christians have their Jesus float and traditions! I find the way Christmas has become a Gap commercial holiday much more disturbing.

I've officially become offended by touchy ppl who are easily offended. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by maryjanemama

Everybody is offended by everything anymore. Let the Christians have their Jesus float and traditions! I find the way Christmas has become a Gap commercial holiday much more disturbing.

I've officially become offended by touchy ppl who are easily offended. :rolleyes:

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Howdy and good mornin MaryJaneMama ! :D ,

I gotta agree with ya,I ain't never heard of so many folks being offended by so many things..Christmas is supposed to be about the birth of Jesus Christ--not about whether the stores are making a big profit.

I try to pick the fights that count..and remember my many blessings..being humble and grateful for what we do have..would eliminate some of this endless persnickity complaining about being offended by everything under the sun.

Have a good one...Torog :D

If people are so upset about religeous celebrations why dont they just board themselves into their houses...Im pretty sure the people celebrating Christmas, Haunaka, ect... wouldnt be offended. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!

The secular-progressive movement understands very well that it is organized religion, most specifically Christianity and Judaism, that stands in the way of gay marriage, partial birth abortion, legalized narcotics



Thats funny, i say jesus freaks are the biggest obsticle to legal weed and people get all huffy about it. Its an obvious fact, your stupid religion is keeping weed illegal.




Even drug legalization is close to being a reality, as the city of Vancouver is developing a heroin give-away policy, and pot has been largely decriminalized across the country.



why would anyone post anti drug bill ofaggy crap on a weed message board.
Die torag

OMG GAYS SEX AND DRUGS HERE COMES THE APOCALYPSE!

And all because states have put an end to public promotion of organized religion. Damn Bill of Rights... its the devils doctrine I tell you!

On a more serious note you can put all the mother marys and baby jesus's that you want on your front lawn, but you have to accept that your neighboors are 15 year old homosexual santanists that shoot up. You get your freedom, they get theirs, everyones happy and high.