I got stoned and thought of a God experiment...

I don't know what religion I am if any. Anyway, I was stoned watching Mythbusters on the Discovery Channel where they were trying to figure out if talking to plants helped them grow. It was determined that any kind of speech or music helped, probably due to sonic vibrations or something.

But what would happen if you prayed for them? Like, if you asked a Higher Power to make them grow. Then, your other batch of plants you could ignore. And then maybe the other batch you could sacrifice to the devil...lol..then see which plants were the healthiest and biggest. Prove the power of prayer. Because sometimes, when I "pray," I basically feel like a person talking to themselves in an empty room. I want to know if anyone is listening.

If I end up doing this experiment, I can take pics in case anyone cares. If you do care and want to find out the results or do your own experiment on proving God and tell me what happens, email me at [email protected]

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Well said :)

funny i was just watching mythbusters at my friends like 30 min ago
pretty gnarly show

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Originally Posted by UnitedWeFall

If you don't pray with faith, then no one will listen.

There is no need to prove God's existance.

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A scientist is a scientist. It's difficult to resist proving and disproving things ... just for. But, as stoners and as anything else we all may be ... let people be, and let them do. That's all. :)

This is what you should believe
We won't tell you why you should believe it
but if you don't ask any questions and believe it anyway, we promise a super-duper reward...


This is essentially the essence of "faith" that bothers me. If I used such logic to make any other claim people would say to me "what, do you think I'm stupid?", but call it "faith" and you can't touch it. The whole concept is a means of making sure people don't ask questions, and I would think any true claim could stand up against any and all questions.

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Originally Posted by mrdevious

This is what you should believe
We won't tell you why you should believe it
but if you don't ask any questions and believe it anyway, we promise a super-duper reward...


This is essentially the essence of "faith" that bothers me. If I used such logic to make any other claim people would say to me "what, do you think I'm stupid?", but call it "faith" and you can't touch it. The whole concept is a means of making sure people don't ask questions, and I would think any true claim could stand up against any and all questions.

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Most people can't even tell someone exactly what the bible is..the Bible is very unique.

You and your stoned ideas, sophia. :stoned:

In the book "The Celestine Prophecy", they give the plants their energy to help them grow, sort of like praying. Or meditating.

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Originally Posted by Shelbay

Most people can't even tell someone exactly what the bible is..the Bible is very unique.

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I wasn't actually referring to the bible in particular, just blind faith in general.

Regarding the original post, I've also heard proponents of Reiki claim that prayer helps people get better because they're collective mental possitive energy, with the intent to heal, aids in the victim's recovery (rather than god). It's all open to speculation really.

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Originally Posted by mrdevious

I wasn't actually referring to the bible in particular, just blind faith in general.

Regarding the original post, I've also heard proponents of Reiki claim that prayer helps people get better because they're collective mental possitive energy, with the intent to heal, aids in the victim's recovery (rather than god). It's all open to speculation really.

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Maybe the more people you have, the more energy is going to be used for a specific purpose. The more people that are involved with these kind of things, the more powerful the healing or the curse will be.
Energy flows where attention goes!:stoned:

God answers and honors prayer but there are formulas for succesful prayer. One, the person praying must submit their lives to the will of God. The person must pray in accordance with God's will and for God's purposes. Also, prayer must be accompanied with faithful action.

For example, see two hungry men. Feed one and pray for the other and see which one's belly fills up faster. God loves prayer but God requires loving action on our part, in all situations.

God has a plan and a purpose for our lives. God will provide for us everything we need and if we have an active prayer life then God will pour out His heavenly blessing upon us, but, He will not necessarily help one batch of plants grow more than the next just to prove to you that your prayer works. Instead, pray to God for success in all areas of your life and then take all the required steps to reach success and God will bless your actions and deeds and you will prosper. You will prosper with true wealth - the peace of the spirit.

Prayer is powerful. God is the most powerful force in the universe. When you tap into the power of God then God's power will flow through YOU! For what purpose does this serve? The purpose is for the glory of the Living God of the Infinite Universe. We are alive to serve, honor and glorify God and one of the best ways to serve God is to serve others.

Jesus told us that the Kingdom of God is within us. Our main goal of LIFE is to realize God's Kingdom within us and to further the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. That is to say, we spread the realization of God's Kingdom in the hearts of as many people here on this earth as possible.

So what is prayer for if it is not to put food in the strangers belly or to make the plants grow? The purpose of prayer is to enter into a voluntary communion with the Living God, the Great Creator of all things, an ecstatic union with El Shaddai -the God of abundance, of more than enough. The God of Wisdom and Might, of Love and Peace. The Great God in all of His attributes. Prayer is not sternly commanded by God as some kind of a threat, it is an invitation, made out of Love, to enter into something so profound you could never fully comprehend the mystery but just be blessed beyond measure. This is what pleases God, when he gets to reveal His glory to one who has sought Him out with true intent, a sincere heart and child-like faith.

We are to seek out God with all of our heart, all of our strength and all of our minds. That is really what prayer is for. You can pray for your plants and I strongly encourage you to do so. In fact I encourage you to pray about every aspect of your life. Pray dilligently for your life, seek out the Kingdom of Heaven within yourself and God will reveal it to you. Pray this the entire lifecycle of your plants and one thing I will guarantee is whether or not you have noticed any difference in your plants, you yourself will have grown, and much more dramatically than your plants, I don't care if they get 9 ft. tall!

Jesus said that if we have faith just the size of a mustard seed then we can literally move mountains. Now, you might be saying now come on, how could I move mountains by just faith? Remember, faith requires action, not just any action but true and right action. Mountains can be moved, we all know that.

So there are mountains made of rock that we could actually move if we had the proper equiptment and made the required effort. But I don't think Jesus meant just moving actual physical mountains but that we could overcome all mountains or obstacles in our lives if through faith and the power of God if we apply right thought and action toward our goals and that our goals are in accordance with His will and for His purposes and that those goals in some way bring glory and honor to God and advance His Kingdom. (Again, where is the Kingdom?)

Jesus says "Seek first the Kingdom of God and all things will be added to you." The mustard seed of faith that Jesus talked about is a metaphor. The mustard seed is very, very small but the mustard plant grows very tall, a small tree that shelter birds in it's branches. I can tell that you have faith that is larger than a mustard seed - perhaps as large as a Sequoia tree? Water that seed and nourish it, pray for that seed to grow, then report back on how large THAT plant grows!