First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!
Hey everyone, first grow and having some droopy leaves problems. Please help me cure my baby!! It's my only one!!
indoor or outdoor-Indoor
soil, soilless, coco, aero, or hydroponic-Soil
Soil type/brand-Miracle Grow Moisture Control
SCL-Anything you have added to the soil-Sprinkled some Perlite (the white stuff right?) in the top part of the soil because I thought it might help with overwatering (which I thought was the problem).
Soil or slab runoff pH-6.3-6.4
Water sourceVaries. I started with mineral drinking water (I know....) , then bought some distilled water but read it's acidic. So ended up using half mineral water and half tap water
Source water pH-~6.6
Age of plant-Planted two weeks ago and one day (sprouted in about 2 days).
Type of fertilizer-None as of yet
Lighting source and distance from plant-(3) 20W 6500K CFL's kept ~4-5 in. mostly, but sometimes closer sometimes further away
Air temperature-Started seedling outdoors at ~95 F, after 1 week moved it inside where my A/C runs at ~75. So with the heat of lamps I would say plant sees ~80 F
Air % Relative humidity-Pretty dry weather here, I'd say about 30% RH
Lighting schedule-Started seedling outdoors which was 12/12 for a week, then moved inside at 12/12 for a day, then slowly increased light period to 13/11, then next day to 14/10, then next day to 16/8 and using this eversince
Type of ventilation your room has-Plant is being grown in the room where I sleep where there is a ceiling fan at full blast and A/C vent. I'd say plant gets decent ventilation
I ran a dip test and I came up with these numbers:
(soil runoff from ~6.6 pH water)
Alkanility - 40 KH ppm (before runoff 20)
Hardness 300
Nitrite 0.1-0.2 NO2- ppm mg/L
Nitrate 10 ppm NO3- ppm mg/L
Some background. First round leaves, one of them came out yellow and half dead (I am thinking it's because of MG). But the first set of serrated leaves came out great. Then the next node leaves started coming out a bit more yellow then the first ones but not that yellow. Right before I moved it inside, the same leaves started drooping, then the first node leaves followed (not as bad as the second one though). Now the two next sets of nodes are coming out (symetrically and simultaneously) and are looking a bit yellow also. I watered with a sprayer about twice a day (never actually giving the soil runoff because of the sprayer). So I thought it was overwatering, so I stopped putting water for 1 1/2 day (i usually let the top of the soil dry out in between watering and sink my finger into the soil to see if it needs watering below the surface), but today I came back from work and it still looked droopy. So I flushed it with the same water and went to buy a test kit to give my official report. This was the first time I actually let the water runoff through the bottom holes since I did not use sprayer.
I went today and bought some Superthrive since I heard it can revitilize your plants a bit and make them stronger. I have not applied any yet, so it'd be nice if someone could tell me how much to use for such a young plant.
You can see pictures below. Soil looks really wet because I just flushed.
I am so sorry for the long post, but I'd thought you guys would like a lot of detail. Stinky, please help!!!!!
First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!
If anyone does suggest any additives or nutes or anything to add, please bre really specific (brand, where to get, etc.). I live in a small town so my choices may be limited. Also, right now I'm VERY poor.
Thanks in advance for any help and sorry if I am annoying you wity my ridiculous long post. I'm a noob at this... :(
First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!
you have to be very careful seedlings overwater easily, you could list the available stores in area but a cheap "grow" fert Alaska fish emulsion
First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!
My first thought would be with veggi....overwater or perhaps check your soil runoff and make sure its coming out the same way as going in.......whooops....you already did, good for you!!
My vote is for overwater and keep your lights about 6 inches because she's obviously a bit stressed.
Raise tropical fish or something do you? You probably talk Rusy Trichomes language.
First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!
Stop using a water spray as it is probably just leaching the leaves out further with that......you can add ST at ONE DROP a gallon for seedlings......warning....will lower ph a bit so check. Water small amounts.....not necessarrily to runoff, just get the medium damp/wet and not have runoff each time...... lots of runoff means you could be flushing the good stuff straight though as I found it from personal experience . Stinky may suggest some sort of foliar spray with nutes but I wouldn't really know how to give instructions for that or even if it's needed because I'm just not knowledgable in enough in soil to say.
If you can spare the $8-10 ish dollar to buy a nice big bag of Happy Frog soil for your plant and it will reward both you and the plant with good soil ph and some good nutes perfect for seedlings along with great growing for quite a while and make your life a lot easier at the same time. A quality soil (MAKE SURE ITS THE RIGHT KIND FOR THE JOB! YOU WANT!) will save you both dollars for extras and give you MANY less headaches with playing around with a lousy soil like Miracle Grow and pay for it self MANY TIMES OVER per grow. ;) Worth every penny.
First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!
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Originally Posted by Weedhound
If you can spare the $8-10 ish dollar to buy a nice big bag of Happy Frog soil for your plant and it will reward both you and the plant with good soil ph and great growing for quite a while and make your life a lot easier at the same time. A quality soil (MAKE SURE ITS THE RIGHT KIND FOR THE JOB! YOU WANT!) will save you both dollars for extras and give you MANY less headaches with playing around with a lousy soil like Miracle Grow and pay for it self MANY TIMES OVER per grow. ;) Worth every penny.
LoL everytime I hear someone cry GNATS!!! I know their using MG soil !
I have heard that the Happy Frog Soil Conditioner is Excellent Also !
I used FF/OC this time, but next time I'm going with the Happy Frog :D
Plant sex
First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!
veggie I use Happy Frog initially for my seedlings in 4 inch pots and then go to 1 gal pots and straight FFOF and perlite.....working great for me so far.
First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!
weedhound , have you used the Happy Frog Soil Conditioner ?
First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!
I'd probably lose the mineral water as well and go with tap water.....ph correct after adding ONE DROP of ST. And quite frankly......I don't use ST with the Happy Frog or FFOF soils...they don't seem to need anything extra.
Good luck.
First grow - Help me grow my baby, it's drooping!!
No Veggi , I use strictly the Happy Frog soil itself in 4 inchers.....worked great and all sorts of beneficial things in both soils.....another plus. Same with FFOF....no additions; just good tap water at correct ph for soil (about 6.5) and so far its been great. I WAS doing what White R here was doing.......watering too much and just flooding things out and leaving the soil too wet at the same time so I think the problem isa little of both of that in this situation.
I DO use a product called rhizotonic for my roots but its fairly expensive and not a necessary with a quality soil like HF or FFOF imo. ;)