Clinton, Obama on collision course tonight

The demolition derby that now defines the Democratic presidential primary race looks headed for another smashup tonight when Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton and Sen. Barack Obama meet for a debate in delegate-rich Pennsylvania, site of the nation's next big primary on Tuesday.

With the Democratic presidential hopefuls locked in open warfare as the last primaries wind down and the battle for delegates heats up, the questions now are: How much intra-party bashing will voters tolerate, and how much will the Republicans benefit?

Although past one-on-one debates between the New York and Illinois senators have been virtual lovefests, the terrain is different this time because Clinton is running out of room. Many political observers believe she must put the pedal down hard tonight if she hopes to convince all-important superdelegates that she alone has the muscle to take the Democratic fight on to the general election.

"It has been an enjoyable primary season," laughed Sacramento-based GOP strategist Rob Stutzman on Tuesday on the recent developments that have had Obama and Clinton pouring on the vitriol in the last week. Between the brouhaha over the "bitter" comments from Obama in San Francisco and the beer-and-gun-loving displays by Clinton as they have courted Pennsylvania voters, Stutzman notes, the Democratic presidential contest is "becoming the political equivalent of Vietnam. At some point, one of them catches a helicopter off the roof, but it's not clear who it will be - and how it will happen."
Clinton, Obama on collision course tonight

LMAO! "The political equivalent of Vietnam"....kind of fitting since the left seems to be experts on quagmires.

Be sure to tune into this one.....should prove to be interesting!:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

Anybody else watch this? For ONCE they actually went after Obama on his "friends" and attitude; Rev. Wright, William Ayers, etc.. IF he's their candidate he'd better buck up for the future on these issues, he didn't handle it well at all.:D

Clinton was licking her lips for about the first hour.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

Poor lil' Barrack, since he got picked on FOR ONCE he's now apparently stating that he won't debate again. The same assclown that wants to speak to the leaders of Iran and Venezuela can't handle a tough moderator in a debate?

Have a good one!:s4:

you sure do complain a lot, why don't you run for president?

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Originally Posted by Nailhead

you sure do complain a lot, why don't you run for president?

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Not complaining...just stating facts. As for running for any office, lol, IF there is a heaven I'd like to think I'm going to make it past the gates.:thumbsup:

Have a good one!:s4:

You aren't stating facts, you're stating your opinions. The reason Obama isn't debating again is because it took 45 minutes for the moderators to finally ask a question pertaining to an issue.

If you can believe it, one of the questions asked of Obama was, "Does Pastor Wright love America as much as you do?" That question literally made me laugh out of my seat because it's so ridiculous... then I realized they were serious about asking it.

They were all ridiculous questions. Again, he was asked if he really is patriotic even though he doesn't wear a flag pin. Well, I personally don't wear a flag pin, but I'm a veteran... so obviously I love the country. I don't think the questioners from ABC were wearing flag pins, so obviously they're all America hating commie terrorists!!! Are YOU wearing a flag pin? I sure hope so! Ridiculous...

This person, like the rest, are running for the top office of the United States which means that their professional and personal lives are on the table for all to see and evaluate.

Obama's Wife: Not proud to be an American until "08"
Rev. Wright: God Damn America....the U.S. of KKK A. , besides his other trash. All this BUT remained a member of the church?
Bill Ayers: "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough."
....An early organizing meeting for Obama's state senate campaign was held at Bill Ayers house,
Lapel Pin: Won't wear it? Does this reflect on the company he keeps OR their attitudes regarding the U.S.A.?

I won't hang with skin heads because they are of a different mindset....I won't hang with cops because of the obvious reasons. We choose our friends based on people that are somewhat compatible to our own personal beliefs.

These were ALL valid questions but unfortunately Obama seems to feel that he is above public scrutiny. Kind of confirms the other candidates feelings about his "elitist" attitude.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud

This person, like the rest, are running for the top office of the United States which means that their professional and personal lives are on the table for all to see and evaluate.

Obama's Wife: Not proud to be an American until "08"
Rev. Wright: God Damn America....the U.S. of KKK A. , besides his other trash. All this BUT remained a member of the church?
Bill Ayers: "I don't regret setting bombs; I feel we didn't do enough."
....An early organizing meeting for Obama's state senate campaign was held at Bill Ayers house,
Lapel Pin: Won't wear it? Does this reflect on the company he keeps OR their attitudes regarding the U.S.A.?

I won't hang with skin heads because they are of a different mindset....I won't hang with cops because of the obvious reasons. We choose our friends based on people that are somewhat compatible to our own personal beliefs.

These were ALL valid questions but unfortunately Obama seems to feel that he is above public scrutiny. Kind of confirms the other candidates feelings about his "elitist" attitude.

Have a good one!:s4:

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Honestly the only thing that really bothered me was the Bill Ayers issue. The guy admits to the crime, says he doesn't regret it and boldly states they should've done more. What more terrorist activities does he think should've occured and why does Obama surround himself with people like that.

I know if knew of someone who did that and had no remorse or regret that I wouldn't even look at them twice let alone call them friend or shake their hand.

All the other issues I such as if he believes in the flag (honestly I'm not even sure wtf that question means.) and the question about pastor Wright I felt ridiculous.

All the pastor Wright question was for was to set Obama up in a bad light. There was no right or wrong answer to that question. Anything that Obama would've said probably would've been twisted.

Really Dean is right. All these super delegates need to make their decisions before the Dem's tear themselves apart and make themselves look stupider than they already appear.

I'm looking forward to this election about as much as I looked forward to the Kerry/Bush Election of 2004.. BLEH!!

Ayers committed the crime when Obama was like... 8 years old.

This whole bit of guilt by association would mean everyone - including you and me - would be unfit for office. Ron Paul takes donations from white supremacist and KKK groups... does that mean that he needs to quit running for office because of it?

Asking if Obama's pastor loves Americans as much as Obama does is absolutely ludicrous! It's a complete disservice to all of us citizens when ABC asks such ridiculous questions. How would you personally even answer such a question? If you go to church, can you tell me right now, without a shadow of a doubt, to what extent does your pastor, rabbi, whatever love America? No, of course not. You can assume, sure... It's just ridiculous.

It's more important to hear what exactly these people plan to do when they're in office. Do they plan on seeking medical marijuana legislation? Do they want to take all my money in taxes? What are they going to do with social security? etc etc etc ... I could give a rat's ass what they do in church, I'm an atheist and I think it's all bunk anyway.

As for the "elitist" claims... I'll take a cue from Jon Stewart from his show last night:

"Doesn't elite mean 'good?' Is that not something we're looking for in a president anymore? ... I know elite is a bad word in politics. You want to go bowling and throw back a few beers. But the job you're applying for---if you get it and it goes well---they might carve your head into a mountain. If you don't actually think you're better than us, then what the fuck are you doing? ... not only do I want an elite president, I want someone who is embarrassingly superior to me."
---Jon Stewart

And by the way, Psycho4Bud, do you wear a flag pin... or are you an American hating terrorist??

This isn't a direct attack, I'm just pointing out how silly these attacks are. As a veteran, I love America, but I have one flag, and it's folded up in my closet. (I live in an apartment)