Printable View
Why do you hate Ron Paul so much?
And, also who are you voting for? Why?
It seems like the people that hate Ron Paul have a lot of negative things to say, pointing out problems, but never have any solutions. Also, for some reason, the people that hate Ron Paul are so antagonistic, and I have no idea why.
I would say it would be easy for liberals to hate him. He would undo all the big government they've worked for, for decades.
People get discouraged and disappointed. As a defense mechanism they hate instead of grieve.
I will still vote Ron Paul. even if it means a write-in. I believe in him and that is it.
Most of the people who vehemently oppose him on these boards are conservatives, not liberals.Quote:
Originally Posted by killerweed420
I think Democrats just generally consider him to be a fringe character of the other party who doesn't seriously challenge them in any way. They basically say, "He's your problem, not ours! You deal with him."
Republicans come down hard on him for a few reasons.
- He challenges them on how faithful they really are to the ideals they claim to uphold.
- He is actually very critical of his own party in many ways, so it's not surprising there is a backlash.
- He's not "on message," so he becomes a distraction and divisive figure for the GOP.
- Some probably think he reflects poorly on their party. Looney-bird, nut-case, crazy-aunt-in-the-attic kind of thing.
It really just comes down to my personal opinion. I am conservative, but I don't really care about the GOP as a whole if that makes any sense. I don't think that you are by default a republican if you are conservative, and I don't think Republicans are necessarily conservatives, obviously.
I have just used my own observations and concluded that he is one of those people that is full of shit. There has been alot of stuff already written by me and several others about this. I have posed some very relevant questions about him in multiple threads and still don't feel like they have been answered. They just get glazed over and usually people just repeat the same old boring Ron Paul rhetoric without acknowledging some glaring problems. I really wonder why so many people here support him so much? It doesn't make any sense to me, but maybe I am just a wacko. Just giving you an honest opinion.
ill have to look at those posts. though im just curious who do you support then? Seems all the other candidates are even more full of shit than ron paul.Quote:
Originally Posted by 8182KSKUSH
I will vote for the GOP nominee, at this point looks to be McCain, unless god create a "miracle" for Huck. I wasn't exactly thrilled with any of the candidates to be honest with you.
It's always just a choice between applying the hand brake on the roller coaster headed to socialism or taking your hand off the brake.
I don't have any respect for Paul, he implies that he would "legalize HEMP" which is 1 of 3 species of marijuana, he chooses that word very very carefully when he does discuss anything related. I think that he is letting people believe as much as they want and if they think he will legalize cannabis sativa, or cannabis indica, then yeah he will take their vote. It is also dishonest, because I am pretty sure that HE KNOWS that if he were the president, there is really nothing he can do aside from clicking his heels and wishing that marijuana was legal. Explain how the president can rub his hands together and magically legalize a scheduel 1 narcotic. IT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN. He doesn't care what you believe about him just so long as you send him some money and vote for him. I think he intentionally is decieving people (it's called lying by omission) whereas at least other politicians that have terrible ideas actually believe what they say. Does that make any sense?
Example, National Health Care, horrible idea, but Billary and Osama both actually believe that they are doing the right thing. They aren't out there stumping for it knowing all the time that for whatever reason they cannot deliver it.
For someone that is such a proponent of legalizing pot, there is not 1 word mentioning it on his website. Sure I can say "The war on drugs is bad, blah blah blah." Doesn't mean I am going to run for president. HOW EXACTLY, SPECIFICALLY WOULD HE LEGALIZE WEED JUST BECAUSE HE IS THE PRESIDENT? Even if Bush wanted to tomorrow, he couldn't. So how the fuck would Paul? Just because he says or implies that he would isn't good enough for me.
It's as empty as the rhetoric of "yes we can". Yes you can what? Make catchy rhymes? Chant in unisen?
All this coupled with the fact that prohibition is an issue that truly is near and dear to my heart, make me despise him. You can flip flop on issues, you can take opposing views, insult my intelligence by saying or implying that you will legalize weed if only you were fortunate enought to become president, then fuck off. He is distracting people that could otherwise use their own energy and efforts in a far better way to accomplish what they want. Just my opinion though I guess.:(
P.S.
The solution for the particular issue we are discussing in regard to marijuana prohibition, is to first get it re-schedueled. Until that happens nothing will change. And I am pretty certain the president can't just say, "ok, scratch that off the list now we're all done thanks." Anyone that is advocating for legalization would have to address this first before anything else is done. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. So go back and find out how this magical man is going to do that. I can save you some time, because he can't. He also doesn't mention this. For someone that is so smart and serious about doing this, how does he miss this little step?:wtf:
he never said he will automatically make it legal, i dont know where your getting this bullshit info. HE STANDS FOR Freedom and other constitutional rights our bullshit leaders have been stepping on for years. and has said to medical marijuana paitients he supports the legalization/decrim , never promised to make it happen. support is better than bullshit excuses like everyone else.
watch this video. YouTube - Ron Paul - Seattle WA 1/31/08
you seem to not research but just hear about stuff and assume. I really think you should research mccain more before supporting another bullshit president.
I didn't say I got this info, this is what is a "popular belief" about him. Just read this forums, they are filled with tons of examples of this misinformation about him. I actually have challenged people to show me when he has said he would legalize. So far, chirping crickets. But like you just said, I already know that he HAS NOT TAKEN THIS POSITION. Hence why there is nothing said on his campaign website.Check angry nomads sig for example. He allows false rhetoric to be spread about him for the sake of gathering "fringe group votes" that he has absolutely no intrest in representing. I do agree with some of his perspectives on the constitution and in regard to the federal governments responsibilities, but I can also find much more that I agree with from almost anyone that isn't a flaming liberal socialist. He is a full of shit. I don't like McCain that much, but I believe that Ron Paul is not in the presidential race. So why would anyone vote for him? In fact I am sure that I saw somewhere today that he was withdrawing to "focus" on his congressional seat. He's not a career politician though is he? He's different huh? Whatever. :wtf:Quote:
Originally Posted by expandingeye