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an omnipotent being that would purposely create a race of culls? you refute your own argument before your first breath ends. this god you have devised would seem to be a cruel and foolhardy master. it's amazing that such a disingenuous mythology could have spread so far.
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no he created the human race with free will
Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn? I love comedies! But one thing's for sure, you are all knowing. How did you know that i despise veggies and sprouts? But just to be sure, I have to ask...
I'm thinking of a number between 1 and .... well, I'll make you tell me the range of numbers that I'm thinking of as well. Thanks
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yea they are a show, and nothing more but guys that make money off of followers. sorry u can't put me into that group. as im sure u would hope i liked these guys but no.and im guessing around 10, as u might not be able to count much higher. as ur brain is to busy wondering what 2 rocks in space might collide next so u can have a puppy dog to play with.
The open invite was done a long time ago in the privacy of my own bedroom, using thoughts only. If you were an all knowing being, you'd have known that
Also, if you were all knowing, you'd know that I was unaware of your deity status. Cheers to deceivers
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so gods supposed to show himself everytime someone asks him to all the while doubting him all the way and he's supposed to be at ur beckin call wow u don't ask much do u?...
You seem to think that these things happen in an observable amount of time, but humans have only been part of the universe for barely a fraction of it's estimated life span
as if i did'nt know that yes i know that!lol ok u believe we came from tad poles right?or toads what ever the hell it is. my ? is as nature is plunking these lil things out by the million/billions a year or more would there not be proof? hell live ones even as nature plunks them out over and over everyday. would we not be able to see these "middle men". u know the missing link, the frog man, or whatever u think we are. i mean would we not be frogs in sum way as thats what we evolved from?
where is the remains of these half man half frog middlemen? or was it one day all of them were frogs and over nite they all changed over nite oh yea it's such a slow process so the whole over nite thing is outta the ? so as slow as a process is where are all these frog men remains why is it always just sketches?
By the way, here's an important question all you religious folks should ask yourselves. What makes you think your deity is any more real than a superhero in a comic book, or Santa Clause even? These are all fictitious entities created to bring a little joy and hope into the lives of people so why could not God have been as well? In my opinion God is just the ultimate superhero, if somebody didn't create it some thousand years ago then some artist would be making money off "The Adventures of God" comic book and movie franchise today.
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well for 1 a deity is from rome, god was known by all not some made up shit from people that wanted to make up something to fit there needs.well all i can say is i told ya so.i wonder all the people i talk to like u well remember this lil talk when ur bowed and on ur knees in front of the lord of lords
yeah so my link got burried. I'm going to now quote several posts from a "top 100 christian Fundamentalism quotes" website. they're fucking hilerious.
Fundamentalism In A Nutshell Award
"There are a lot of things I have concluded to be wrong, without studying them in-depth. Evolution is one of them. The fact that I don't know that much about it does not bother me in the least."
Highly Polished Mirror Award
"I often debate with evolutionists because I believe that they are narrow mindedly and dogmatically accepting evolution without questioning it. I don't really care how God did what He did. I know He did it."
"You got it backwards.
Creationism is based upon science, reason and tons of evidence.
Evolution is based on the blind acceptance of superstitions and fairy tales."
Fundie Debate Tactics Award
""Make sure your answer uses Scripture, not logic.""
Fundamentalism in a Nutshell
"[Am I in discussion with a human who has a functioning brain?]
"[Replying to 'as for not seeing evolution it takes several million years... incase you missed that memo...']
several million years for a monkey to turn into a man. oh wait thats right. monkeys dont live several million years."
Post of the Week (3)
What does a functioning brain have to do with the Bible?"
"But God don't talk in Arabic. He talks in a REAL language, namely, English. It's true that back in them days He translated that to some other language after Speaking it in English, but after all, it's His universe and He can do what He doggone well wants to do."
DesertFox, Free Conservatives [Comments (128)] 2006-Dec-13 <- (one of our fine boys in khaki i'm sure)
Thats sum funny shiites:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh So Grow So
Actually, what I'm asking for is a conversation. For an all powerful being, it's literally NOTHING. I'm not expecting a reply, but if it happens, awesome! Maybe I hold faultless, all powerful, all knowing, loving and just beings in a higher regard than you.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
So far, you've done nothing but belittle me at any chance you get. You smear my words and putting words into my mouth.
I never said people can/will take residence in space, you just think I did, or you ignore the fact that I presented it as a possibility, just to laugh at the presentation.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
After asking if you are indeed inferring that I am an idiot in two posts:
I attempted to clarify the situationQuote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
You don't bother to address this, and actually insult me again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardcore Newbie
In this statement you put more words in my mouth and again belittle my intelligence. To clarify, [sarcasm]because I know you must care very much about other people's opinions[/sarcasm]... I don't spend the majority of the day wondering which two rocks are going to collide.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
I've gone out of my way to not insult you. You are incredibly difficult to converse with, and not because I disagree with what you're saying. I disagree with Pass That Shit very much, but (s)he is a joy to converse with, because PTS actually adds content to the conversation. You, on the other hand, insult anyone that disagrees with your view point, and reply to very few rebuttles to questions and scenarios that you yourself ask and pose for others to answer.
I will give my only fact in the thread.
I think you are the idiot that you speak of in your signature. FACT.
Good day, sir.
In this statement you put more words in my mouth and again belittle my intelligence. To clarify, [sarcasm]because I know you must care very much about other people's opinions[/sarcasm]... I don't spend the majority of the day wondering which two rocks are going to collide.
I've gone out of my way to not insult you. You are incredibly difficult to converse with, and not because I disagree with what you're saying. I disagree with Pass That Shit very much, but (s)he is a joy to converse with, because PTS actually adds content to the conversation. You, on the other hand, insult anyone that disagrees with your view point, and reply to very few rebuttles to questions and scenarios that you yourself ask and pose for others to answer.
I will give my only fact in the thread.
I think you are the idiot that you speak of in your signature. FACT.
lmfao that was good but wrong what have i said that insults u im talking to everyone here u act as if im sum "matter" under ur feet u look down ur nose at people like me as if ur far more advanced in thinking as to me.and i've tried to answer all ur responces but no "matter" what i say it makes no "matter"as what ever i say makes no "matter"too u so good day to u sir....no wait let me ask u this then what do u really think happens when u die??? nothing??
God is simply a widely believed manifestation caused by the need to explain that which we do not understand, in a way that can be understood. When people have no way of explaning where they came from and how it came to be they feel uneasy and restless.
"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to create him" - Voltaire
so u don't believe theres a good/ evil,..ying&yang,no good karma/bad karma,no soul just ur brain that guides u what??and no im not putting words in ur mouth, but with what u say u think to be true goes hand in hand with the stuff i said/asked u. so u can't half ass it, i mean if u don't believe in nothing and were all just matter, then life would'nt matter to u much, or why should it? i mean were all just matter, and theres no higher being that has a plan beyond our lifes, so why would it matter?
if people kill each other, and do all the bad things they do cause thats what matter does.it destroy's,creates over and over that means all the people out there raping, killing,and wars, all that is happening like it's supposed to right?or is it that the matter that make up humans, is/are the exception to the "matter"rule??
God is simply a widely believed manifestation caused by the need to explain that which we do not understand, in a way that can be understood. When people have no way of explaning where they came from and how it came to be they feel uneasy and restless.
"If God did not exist, it would be necessary to create him" - Voltaire
can that not be the same for the big bang theroy??or any other for that matter?
Since you have a hard time responding to paragraphs, I'll put it in point form, with all of my questions and concerns in bold.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
But in answer to your question, I've already said that I don't know what happens. Let me reiterate. I don't know.
- You say that your insults are not directed at me, and then state your insults are directed at everyone. Do you not see the contradiction? Wouldn't it infer that if you're insulting everyone, that I am included?
- Also, you claim to be speaking to everyone with your insults, yet you address me by quoting my words, and insult. Here is a post, in its entirety, posted by you, including the post of mine that you are addressing. I will add emphasis.
So are you still claiming to be speaking to everyone? If so, why are you using "u" [sic] after quoting someone? Are you inferring that "u" is in fact plural, and that you're insinuating that nobody in the thread (except yourself, of course LMFAO!! LOL) has the knowledge to count that high?Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
- The reason your responses have less and less meaning is because you are very selective in your responses, and the one that you do are filled with insults towards people, towards their ideas, and scoffing laughter.
I think that nothing happens, you just die, people mourn, and you are remembered for your time and contribution on earth.
I figure you response will start with putting my post above yours but not bothering to use the quote button for easy formatting. In your case though, it will be easy to tell where my text stops and your text begins, we have a very different approach to writing. I prefer to be clear and concise, and you prefer to "keep ur brain going", not by what you say, but because you can't be bothered to type coherently. I think it will look something like this:
"lol absurd, u no as much as i do that god is real and you have to answer haha what you think he dont know u or what you do you think you can talk to god who made you so special tadpole worms from space away from supernovas that explode? that makes life and takes life, you can believe that but you can't believe in god everything is ok untel you dont like it he does a good job to me now lets talk about something totally different like gravity you believe gravity whats up with that? how did the universe make gravity oh yeah spaceships brought it so we can eat cake"
You say that your insults are not directed at me, and then state your insults are directed at everyone. Do you not see the contradiction? Wouldn't it infer that if you're insulting everyone, that I am included?
Also, you claim to be speaking to everyone with your insults, yet you address me by quoting my words, and insult. Here is a post, in its entirety, posted by you, including the post of mine that you are addressing. I will add emphasis.
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as u might not be able to count much higher
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still no insult just a smart ass remark, as i do seem to remember u starting out first. if i do recall i mean me being a kid and all right, so is that not expected of someone thats not as evolved as everyone else? i sure hope i end up doing something that "matters"someday.man im funny i must have used the word "matter"a few hundred time so far so that tells me thats gotta be the truth...i guess.
u know what it's weird the system that u hate so much as is against pretty much everything u stand for u know weed, free thinking,beer,ur rights as a person,u know the system that everybody on this site hates, the gov and all the other bs thats out there.this same system has brain washed u cause most of what u know about what u think u know came from where?school right books that were approved by who... the government. the same people u have grown to hate and disagree with. so it's odd to me that u say u hate/disaprove of this government, but yet u will believe anything they cram down ur throats....funny to say the least.
The reason your responses have less and less meaning is because you are very selective in your responses, and the one that you do are filled with insults towards people, towards their ideas, and scoffing laughter
no really if we were face to face we could talk. and i could say everything on my mind. not just bits here and there trying to reply to what u say. and really i don't have the time to sit here all day typing, i'd be here all day.and there u go insulting again and to put the blame all on me..nice and for the record, and i know i'll get sum good repercussion off this. u ready this u will get a kick out of but i don't care. as i know what i have done, and it's been all on my own. so thats more i can say for most people but anyways, i think i write pretty good and know quite a bit for having only a 5th grade education. and everything i know is self taughtand i don't think sitting here to learn how to type perfect will pay my bills. so no i have had no corruption from schools that try to push there views on someone. i mean sum are good but some are'nt. so u can bash me all u want for not knowing or caring where to put the periods commas and all that. i don't have a desk job where i write too much anyways im to busy running a business. i build and repair computers i can build/remodel houses and i grew up in locksmithing, and i love geology and prospecting for minerals so call it what u will.
god doesnt exist because if he did id see amputees regrow their arms or legs.
Are you a troll? Seriously... or are you just 12? I didnt think it was possible, but you completely misinterpreted everything I said. You are so off, the only way I can see it, you did it on purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Or maybe you should not get so high.. whatever you are doing before you post maybe you should not...
Instead of saying you think that i did something, find the passage, quote the post, and point it out. I've directly quoted what you consider a 'smart ass remark'Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
The following is sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Yes, everyone knows the person who uses "matters" in quotation marks, no "matter" what the subject, is automatically telling the truth, and is therefore right. "matter" "matter" "matter" "matter" "matter" "matter" "matter" ... oh shit i'm winning. :wtf:
yep, you definitely know what you're talking about, weed and beer come from the government, free thinking is taught in school (far from it).Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
I don't think the government is evil the whole way through. I just belief that their laws are stupid. We have over 6,000,000 statutes that we're supposed to abide by, which only serve as money making tools for the government. that's the part of governemnt I don't like. Firefighters? Awesome. Hospitals? Amazing. Law enforcement? well, the peace officers are cool and needed, the lawful officers are another a word, ... it ends with "sshole"
How would a face to face conversation be different? I'd still be asking the same questions that you don't answer. Big people discussions take time. Typing them is a much better way because you can keep a log of who said what. Oh wait, no wonder you'd rather talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
I see no insults. Again, if you want to show me an insult, quote it. Otherwise, you have nothing to complain about. I can't argue against a claim which you can't back up. My "blaming" you wasn't just saying "oh he's dumb look! hahha", I showed you how you were insulting me, I showed you how you were being selective in your response, I showed you that you insult peoples ideas, I showed you your laugher.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Instead of saying "no I didn't mean it like that, this is what I mean" and proceed with explanation, you instead say "look you're blaming me". Yes, I am blaming you, you aren't debating the points I'm making, and you certainly aren't refuting my claims. This tells me that you either agree with me, or you don't care enough about the argument, so you won't contest them. *BUT* it can't be the latter, because you are expressing your concerns, you're just not doing anything about it.
This isn't really related to the discussion, but it's cool learning about the people you're talking with.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
The reason I wanted you to type with better grammar is because I want to know what you're saying. It's been decent these past few posts. I'm interested in what you have to say, I just wish you'd say it. Take it as a compliment.
Edit* And please use the quote button. Please.
Edit* And please use the quote button. Please
don't know how to this is the first forum i've been to so i don't know all the in's and out's of everything on here.
Ok, insults aside, I can barely read what you're typing." It's not just the spelling and shorthand", but the grammar makes it barely readable. If your first language isn't english, I apologize.
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i think that was the first time u said something, as if u don't see it all over the place on here...but not that i was counting but since it was brought up.
Go to the persons post that you want to quote. On the bottom right hand side there is a button that says "QUOTE"Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Press it.
The following is sarcasm.
Yes, everyone knows the person who uses "matters" in quotation marks, no "matter" what the subject, is automatically telling the truth, and is therefore right. "matter" "matter" "matter" "matter" "matter" "matter" "matter" ... oh shit i'm winning
well iv'e been taking just about everything u say as sarcasm, as most people that think the way u do and others seem to be fixed on one way. and im not saying thats all of the things u say are wrong, but more sarcastically said. as to just prove im wrong and there is no master plan. as where i believe in god, and a master plan. with out all the bs put in there by man like the bible thumpers believe, that the worlds only 6000years old or sum shit like that.
and no im not for all the bs that preachers preach on t.v, and in churches, as there all just a show and prowl on the weak. and people that say that religion is something made up from the government of the time, to control people is true but god being made up, no i say. just look at the book of revelation, would a government or who ever "made it up" so to say it's not real "god" would they put a book like that into the "bible", condemning themself? cause thats what the book is really about judging the churches. and all the diffrent regilions that man has morphed god into,a business none the less.
Go to the persons post that you want to quote. On the bottom right hand side there is a button that says "QUOTE"
i know that but i don't know how to get 1 part not the whole thing.
The above is your quote with my quote in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
I fail to see the insult. "insults aside" and an apology before you even got to see the message. The statement without the meat basically says "this isn't meant to be insulting, and if you do find it insulting, I apologize". I offered an apology before you even had a chance to be insulted. If you're offended by this somehow, then you're taking offense to a genuine criticism, not the alleged insult.
Because creation 'Ex Nihilo' (out of nothing) is not an option.
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Look what I found, THE PROBLEM. By your own words, you are taking very little of what I say seriously, despite my best efforts to engage in big people conversation with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Another problem, you're stereotyping me into a group of "most people (that think the way you do). Ever stop to think that maybe, maybe I'm not most people?Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Why be sarcastic when it doesn't translate well in an argument, or in text? Why not just state your beliefs, or refute what I say? It works a lot better than exaggerate what I say and pretending that's the way I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
I'm not "out to get you". I'm just asking questions and figuring out your reasoning. If I see something that I feel is wrong in your reasoning, I'll point it out. If you think my logic is wrong, point it out and explain why, instead of just saying I'm wrong and putting words into my mouth through "smart ass remarks" and exaggeration.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
I've never lumped you in with anyone. I'm not assuming I know your beliefs, because we're all individuals. You seem to think that I'm lumping you in with every bible thumper, and I plain and simply haven't done that. My questions are not attacks and attempts to stereotype, they're simply questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
Question: If I make a tutorial on how to use the boards for you, will you read it and attempt to use it?
I'm going golfing, haven't gone in a long time, and I'm expecting a bad game :p
Sorry I must have been stoned! I thought you said "one reason why God DOES exist" ha ha
Great to see so much communication though...
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Question: If I make a tutorial on how to use the boards for you, will you read it and attempt to use it?
yes i would
no attempt i would read it and put it to use
Cool, i just got back and I'll write it either today or tomorrow. Right now I'm beat, the sun has gotten to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
You just highlight the text that you dont want, and press the "Backspace" button.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
You strike me as a very lost and confused youngster. You seem to expect that everybody should share your opinion on the subject, yet you seem to have a very hard time communicating that opinion in any feasible way that makes sense. Im not trying to insult you, I am simply confused by the way you work. And I believe its because you have confused yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by palerider7777
+ favorite :rastasmoke:Quote:
Originally Posted by KK5
LOL,Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithBarry
All is welcome. As you can see, everyone drops their two cents in here. :hippy:
The sun is my god. It gives me all I need and its why I'm here.
You are a very decent pro-active guy hardcore-newbie. :thumbsup:
God doesn't exist as I never won the lottery again this week.
NCM
well first off im alot older than u. and the way i think is'nt childish thats the problem with "u" youngsters, i noticed growing up and i was born in the 70's. and i could tell at a young age all the bs they started putting in schools in the 80's. u know the whole white mans evil, don't fuck, but if u do just have an abortion, parents raise ur kids right, but don't discipline them, and i might add all these professionals that tell u how to raise ur kids don't even have kids, the whole school/t.v teach ur kids era, well the 80's were where it really started to take off the whole i can do but u can't era.Quote:
Originally Posted by GraziLovesMary
i mean i could go on for ever pointing out facts. but the whole free speech thing don't seem to go over to well on here. and i'd be labeled a great many things as well, im sure for just askin ??.i mean the shit they teach in school about history is alot of bougus shit. i tell ya but i know im wrong the schools teach nothing but the truth so help them "god"opps
Of course god exists. Otherwise i wouldn't have been created so perfect.:)
Again? How much the first time? :smokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightcrewman