wat kind of bulbs should i use for vegging, someone said it gives off a red sort of light?
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wat kind of bulbs should i use for vegging, someone said it gives off a red sort of light?
if you search around the answer is all around you. literally. i believe even in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blunt420
I'm going to be cleaning up this thread over the next few days.. you'll notice i've merged 2 other threads into it... hence the jump in number of replies and views.
This will be much more informative..and condensed.. like a true "faq".
im new too this site and am currently growing 1 plant its about 2ft and all the small leaves are starting too shrivel up and die can u plz help me , is my plant dying or wot.
GE has a new CFL on the market, to the tune of 1600 lumens @ 6500K.
Sold in a two pack at wally world for $6.44...which is a good sign that 6500K bulb's prices are coming down. I've purchased single bulbs that are 6500K, for more than the two-pack costs.
Hi all, I just registered due to this thread. It's been enormously helpful in setting up my closet.
I'm using bagseed which I germinated in a paper towel. I've got one that has germinated thus far and is planted, but had some questions.
So far I have 4 x 42 watt CFLs giving off ~2600 lumens each. I plan on expanding this to 6 bulbs soon. I assume this is adequate for a 2' x 2.5' grow space? Also, having just planted one of the seeds under the soil, how much light should it get? I have a timer setup so I can make it 18 on/6 off when I actually see a plant emerge, so should I stick with that now or leave it on 24 hours? Lastly, where are you guys getting your color spectrum info for the bulb. I looked all over the packaging and couldn't find it. It's the 42 watt CFL sold at Home Depot under the name Commercial Electric.
I bought Miracle Gro organic soil to plant it in, but saw it recommended mixing it with ordinary topsoil. Anyone have experience with this? Are there going to be too many nutes for a baby seedling?
Any advice would be appreciated. I'll post pics once the Mylar I ordered comes in and the closet looks all nice and neat.
hello bob. i would just like to say thanks for all the information you have passed to all of us who have been following this thread so closely. if i had just one question to ask you, it would be about your germination. did you really germinate your seeds directly in the soil? is this a practice you plan to continue using? this is how i also germinate, but i've been considering other alternatives. i've noticed alot of noobies seem to have alot of trouble with germination and tend to blame it on the seeds. any isight would be helpful. thanks bob. we all love you and appreciate you. mark.
I'm veryimpressed. My setup is simiiliar to yours. I have four
42w cfl, mylar, computer fan, in small 32"x27"x16" cabinet. I just need the seeds ordrered (from two different places). I can only hope I do half as good as you. Congrats! I'll try LST first grow, then I want to clone a girl and ScrOG. My concerns right now are watering and nutes. My impression with that right now is "less is more" ,or "moderation in all". Good job!
hey qdavid, if i may offer some advice on seeds, then allow me to recommend the seedbank review. i think u just go to seedbankreview.com. but i got burnt more than once online. seedbank review lets u know if they really ship international or not. always got burnt from those who ship in cd cases. it never worked for me. always got letter from airport saying "cannabis seeds confiscated and destroyed". but i did receive seeds from some others. and they're good seeds. i wish u luck. p.s. if u ordered from 2, u should get atleast 1 of them.
now is there any important CFL's you need to buy for flowering and vegging? or is it just CFL. for reg. flourescent it's cool for vegging and warm for flowering, correct?
yup that right,has any one used a bulb like this 105 Watt Compact Fluorescent Spiral Light Bulb 5000 K it says it have 6900 lumens wow!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tupamaro
Hey, i was wondering how big did you grow the plant? oh yea, and what did you do about the smell??
Hey dookie good question. It was hard to control in a small apartment, and made me fairly paranoid for a while. I kept my window open all the time. and Incense was kept going almost all the time but mainly at peak smelly hours like the start of the day and end of the day. :stoned:Quote:
Originally Posted by dookieface
Ozium Helps....Ionized/glycolized deodorant air sanitizater. I'll find a picture for you (there is one kicking around i know it.)
other than it was generally luck, I minded my own business and didn't make it know that i was growing .. well, besides here. A general level of paranoia comes with growing... which can either work for.. or against you.. depending on how well you handle it.
Just be smart. The plant only really stinks for a few weeks.. and there are simple ways to mask and deodorize it. just research. I know it seems silly..but we could very easily write a cannabis.com growing book given the amount of information collected on growing. It just needs to be found. It's right infront of you :)
Besides, everything i learned. I learned here and from a growing book that a friend leant me (I know know more about growing than him). Observing. understanding simple science helps.. math... I mean, i hate to say it...some people just simply should NOT grow, given their circumstances.
Never grow in your parents house without their knowledge.
Please..
It's insulting.
There is no and never will be one said, one given or one proven way to "grow". Every seed, every plant, every strain, every grow and every growER... are different.
Some plants will smell from early veg stages, some will never smell up until the day you cut them.
It's nature,baby.:rasta:
I hope i didn't ramble to much for ya. I know i don't pay enough attention to this thread as there's almost a daily flow of viewers.
And again, i appologize...but hey, you know how it is.
I will continue the cleanup and refining of this thread and soon hope to post a very informative recipe on how to make CannaButter for medicinal and recreational consumption.
Cheers all, stay stoned. ( you can always find me in the chat )
Happy Growing,
Bob.
Are those little flouresent lights all you use to grow, and what strain of plant is that, I use 2- 3' florescent and a 250 w. hps, mine are about 3 mos old and only 18" high, white widow>< going on to 12-12 now, first time indoors.
Can anyone tell me whether it is worth buying feminised seeds for £35?
I want a second generation in some way or another, so can this be acheived with all females, taking a cutting from my best plants?
Plus I don't have a clue about the sex of plants. I always thought they were asexual...if I were to have males and females growing in the same area, could someone advise me what risks are present (in terms of spoiling the crop) and their recommended precautions to counteract them? Do I even need males to enter the equation in order to harvest in the future, using just the basic 10 female seeds bought from the internet?
If males are anywhere near females they will pollinate them and this is NOT good, right?
When people say cuttings, do they basically just meant a branch of the plant cut off and stuck into a fresh pot?
Someone willing and divine please divulge their omniscient knowledge of this complex matter:D
I have a cupboard with a floor area of 1.1m x 60cm, which extends to over 5ft in height.
Could anyone tell me how many plants can safely be grown in this space, and whether I should use the normal method or the sea of green method?
THX
hey white widowmaker i think its defo worth buying feminised seeds especially at £35, i paid £40 for mine i spent the same on 20 unfeminised seeds and ended up with 1 female which was really shit you dont want males they will pollinate females if they are in the same room as the pollen is spread from plant to plant in the air circulation (wind)
the plants arnt asexual they are either male or female although you may get mutations which can make the plants both sexes doesnt happen a lot tho this is called a hermaphrodite
i grow mine in a small clothes wardrobe probably about 1metre in lentgh across and bout 2m in height its not very wide tho i can get 10 plants in there comfortably
its up to u if u get feminised but id rather spend that lil extra to garuntee they are all females
people say that the sex is genetic and cant be changed i feel this isnt true as if the plants get a deffiency or too much of something or stressed jus before you flower they is more chance they will be male
oh and if you leave males in there and they pollinate the females youl jus be left with a fuck loada seeds and no bud
throw away any males you get asap unless u want to get seeds to grow more plants
Cheers oliwog,
I think I am definately gonna get all females. Did you use a Sea of Green in your small cupboard?
Or do you think I should utilise the height of my cupboard for better results? Iv'e heard that indoor plants get thin and weak when they grow too tall and I obviously don't want to risk ruining their structure.
I'm starting my first grow. I've been reading as much as I can about closet growing techniques and have been an outdoor vegetable gardener for some time so I have experience with a lot of the basics.
I've also assembled an assortment of regular fluorescent tubes and CFL.
Some 6500k
Total lumens = 9514
Total watts = 280
And some 3100k and 2700k
Total lumens = 9200
Total watts = 380
I understand using the 6500k for veg stage and the 3100k and 2700k for flowering.
I'd like to use them all for veg and flowering. That would give 660 watts total.
Would the 3100k and 2700k help at all during the veg stage and would the 6500k help for flowering?
P.S.
BobBong, your information has been invaluable! Without it I would never have seen how easy it can be to grow some fine bud. I feel like I owe you part of my first crop! (I'll need to save some for research purposes:rasta:)
Thanks, thanks, and thanks again.
I just returned some of my tubes and picked up more CFLs
Now I have:
6500k
Total lumens = 17,385
Total watts = 780
2700k
Total lumens = 5400
Total watts = 300
That's quite a bit more 6500k. Is there any reason to add the 2700k to the veg time? I'm trying to grow two lovely ladies from bag seeds.
Actually that's a pretty dumb question :o seeing as BobBong basically exclusively used something similar to 6500k for veg and flowering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horsefeathers
I guess my question would be, would the 2700k be beneficial at all to the veg stage?
i see u have 3 42w compact fluorescents and everyone else usually has 400 watt hps
did u add an hps light or did u keep the compact fluorescent lights the whole way, even through flowering
i dont really kno wut im talking about im just trying to learn so i can start my own plant
A 600W 88000 lumens a 400W 55000 lumens
hey bobbong.. great grows and info.. really lookin forward to ur next grow.. any plans to have another one soon?
i was wondering how u got so many crystals on there i dont see anyone elses anything close to urs
I just ordered 2 warm white odor control CFLs
http://www.fresh2.com/light-bulbs.html
as I understand it these are for real
23w (~100w)
2700K
BobBong are you still around You are truely my new hero. I have just read every thread going back to april 05. I am new to forum but am amazed by your results. I am sitting here over wealmed by the cost of getting things rolling and you have "brightened" my day. I Do have a few questions though that i could not find in the threads.
1. Is there a difference good or bad in using 2 ft tube fl vs. cfl
2. Would this light source work for hydroponics (electrical risks not included)
3. Where did you get your Weed grower degree!!! Some people are thankfull for people in the military social workers firefighters... To hell with them you truely make our world a better place... at least helping to forget we live in it.
Thanks for the detail and updates its amazing you find the time us "potheads" are not very good at remembering or doing what we plan while enojying fruits of labor.
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by kblovr
Thanks alot bud, you made my day "brighter" to !
In response to your 2ft. tubes vs. cfl it could really just depend on the output of the bulb. The 2ft tubes are high output if i'm not mistaken and if you have the room for it.. it may not be a bad idea. You would want to compare the difference in specsifications on the bulbs.. kelvin temp, wattage, lumen are all things to be considered. The nice thing about the CFL's is the size and ease of which you can set them up. most of them use a medium sized standard socket wich can be setup very easily using parrallel circuits and ceramic fixtures. Or even pre-fab'd fixtures.. as we've seen. CFL's can be cheapers, but aren't always.. there are varying size of CFL also, going as high as 125watts+ in one bulb.
Fluorescent lighting CAN be used for hydro, i've recently learned this from talks with specific growers..(although may not be news to some) As long as you have a light source that can support the plant in the proper spectrum.. the difference between hydro and soil is in the medium. Not the light.
Now weed growing degree here :) Just simple understanding of physics, science and nature.
Understand what the plant needs.. and you'll know exactly what it wants.
Cheers and stay stoned,
Bob.
You want to give the seedling and plant as much blue as possible.. this means keeping as much red away from it as possible..until you begin flowering.Quote:
Originally Posted by Horsefeathers
Hope this helps.
Bob.
Thanks for the reply
Ok well I am pretty much ready i guess thank you. I only have 2 other things if you know. What light to plant ratio is a safe bet. I want to use an 8 pot hydro setup in a modified shower!! who needs to be clean as long as your high. I am almost 30 so not wanting to have a crazy amount but you know. Also way off topic but have you used a seed bank or know of people who do this is 90% of my paranoia so any reassurance would help. Once again Thanks
R U currently working I havent seen a new batch in a while.
also are actuall mirrors in a room a good thing? light reflecting purposes
oh and 1 more thing then ill burn in hell i promise what was your average yield per plant under cfl
Thanks Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by BobBong
I found this posted at
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthrea...t=10956&page=2
Quote:
From The Cannabis Bible by Greg Green:
CTT in Kelvin (K)/ Light Color/ Effect/
5000 to 8000/ Deep blue/ Encourages excellent leaf and stem growth.
4000 to 5000 / Light blue/ Encourages good leaf and
stem growth.
4000/ Neutral white/ Promotes normal growth.
3700 to 4000/ Warm neutral/ Promotes rapid growth.
3000 to 37000/ Warmer yellow neutral/ Highly active
photosynthesis for all stages of growth.
1500 to 3000/ Hot orange or red/ Promotes flowering.
Don't use mirrors. The best thing for the walls is flat white paint.
woot, just picked up a 105w (400w eq) 5000k bulb , and a 23w 2700k bulb for a pair of lowryders. im excited. the 105w is huuuge... over a foot long.
hi i am new to this site so bare with, im doin my 2nd crop and am 3 weeks in and was wondering what sort ov hight the light (600wt) should be from the tops ov the plants? and since its big bud im growing ppl have told me to get a crop suport net is this realy a must? will the bud realy get that heavey?--repleys welcomed -thanks and cud use sum big bud photos if anyones growing it out there?:rasta:
thanks for the replys guys anyone ever tried a 70w hps? only 50 bucks whoo hoo but i figured i find out if it was worth the effort first
hey what do i know, but,the compact flouros i have are large units!,, i mean large, the most common are agrolight, they kick arse, those look like white light mix compacts, and i would want to mix it with some grolux coloured lamps between, the agrolights come in veg and flowering bulbs, although i wouldnt recomend the flowering abilities of them, i just wonder what sort of light mix those are! they look almost like the type used in the lamps in my house,,, which are not IDEAL for growing, not enough blue!,,thats why i think the suplement of a growlux would make for very interessting developements growth wise!, a UV light or several would also be good!
but like i said what do i know ,
good luck man, stay cool.
I love this thread, very nice work and very informational.
Recently ive been thinking about doing an indoor grow with floros for cheap and I was looking at your setup and i had some questions about the way you wired your lights. Do you wire all the lights to a single cord? are they grounded? can u possibly show a pic of how they are wired