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Originally Posted by Flameon
Hi again Rock Steady
I think we may have misunderstood each other, when I spoke about evaporation I was referring to the water boiling off in the Pan and bowl 'double boiler' method.
Regarding the temps: the recipe specifically calls for temperatures below 140 C (285 F), therefore the 'smoke points' of the oils aren't really important as we shouldn't be getting anywhere near them.
Also, without confusing the issue too much, you could use some of the oils you suggest, however, there is a very important reason behind choosing clarified butter (Ghee) or Coconut oil over them. Namely, the fact that they are both higher in saturated fat, which is generally more effective in releasing the THC into the blood stream (due to the way the stomach acids digest, break down, and absorb that type of fat). Out of the ones you mention lard is probably the best, though not quite as tasty, or as efficient.
The capsules will still work if you use other oils, though you'll probably need to 'up' the amount of weed used in order to compensate for any loss of absorption.
Hope this makes sense, there's more info on the types of oils/fats that work best nearer the start of the thread.
Anyhow, cheers and good cooking! :jointsmile:
Flame
p.s. mobyone
Getting so wasted that I call for an ambulance has never been an issue. After taking three of these bad boys I'm not capable of using the phone! lol
Flameon,
sorry, but after re-reading your reply 3 times just to be sure I was clear on what you are stating, you have definately misunderstood my suggestion.
I am in no way suggesting to change the recipe, let me be very clear on that.
what I am proposing/suggesting, is if someone (like me) wants to employ the double boiler method, water would be an insufficient media to use in the outter pot, due mainly to the boiling point of water being 212F/100C, something i had overlooked before.
the required temps in your recipe would have the water constantly boiling off before the desired temps are reached for the project to be a success.
Instead, what I am suggesting, and i hope i am being more clear, is if using the double boiler, stovetop method, one 'could' successfully utilize a cooking oil in the outter boiler to achieve the temps required for the recipe, whilst the coconut oil and keef are safely housed in the inner pot with a lid. the reason for showing the smoke point was only to point out that the required temp for the recipe is well under the smoke points, therefore no need to worry about the oil getting too hot and filling the house with smoke.
hope this helps clarify.
i was only trying to suggest what i believe may be a method to achieve more consistant temp with control.
no matter what, i love the recipe and this thread.
when i am able to aquire the nesesary ingredients, i will use this method and report back.:thumbsup:
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Ok, I changed my mind. I went out looking for a coffee grinder and only found grinders that grind LARGE amounts of "coffee". So, I bought a pepper grinder instead. The ground weed is almost dust, so I think it'll work just fine. Anyway, while at the store I looked at crockpots and found a digital one with a "probe" that I can place in the oil. So, I can guarantee the temperature in the oil. Last night I put the crockpot on high with an oven thermometer inside and the temp was a hair above 250, so I probably don't even need the probe. I will be cooking tonight and testing tomorrow. :D
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Originally Posted by Rock.Steady
what I am proposing/suggesting, is if someone (like me) wants to employ the double boiler method, water would be an insufficient media to use in the outter pot, due mainly to the boiling point of water being 212F/100C, something i had overlooked before.
the required temps in your recipe would have the water constantly boiling off before the desired temps are reached for the project to be a success.
Instead, what I am suggesting, and i hope i am being more clear, is if using the double boiler, stovetop method, one 'could' successfully utilize a cooking oil in the outter boiler to achieve the temps required for the recipe, whilst the coconut oil and keef are safely housed in the inner pot with a lid. the reason for showing the smoke point was only to point out that the required temp for the recipe is well under the smoke points, therefore no need to worry about the oil getting too hot and filling the house with smoke.
hope this helps clarify.
Ah, I see what you're saying now, sorry my misunderstanding.
It's a very interesting solution, and would certainly solve the problem of not getting the temperature 'high' enough to make sure that the THC melted into the oil.
I guess you'd need to monitor the temperature pretty closely during the cooking to make sure it doesn't get too hot , but it should be fairly easy to regulate it by tuning the gas (or electricity) up or down in order to keep the oil between the 'high' and 'low' parameters. You'd just need to keep watching the thermometer.
I'll be interested to hear if anyone gives this a go, and how they get on. Nice suggestion Rock Steady, cheers :jointsmile:
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Originally Posted by mobyone
Ok, I changed my mind. I went out looking for a coffee grinder and only found grinders that grind LARGE amounts of "coffee". So, I bought a pepper grinder instead. The ground weed is almost dust, so I think it'll work just fine. Anyway, while at the store I looked at crockpots and found a digital one with a "probe" that I can place in the oil. So, I can guarantee the temperature in the oil. Last night I put the crockpot on high with an oven thermometer inside and the temp was a hair above 250, so I probably don't even need the probe. I will be cooking tonight and testing tomorrow. :D
Hey moby, looking forward to reading your field report.
Just out of curiosity, if you leave the probe in during the cooking, could you keep a note of the 'high' and 'low' temperatures that your crock pot hits and post it up?
Also, I'd be interested to get an idea of how many caps you're making and the ratio's of bud to oil etc.
It's all good info.
Hope it goes well, and keep us posted.
Cheers
Flame :thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Flameon
Hey moby, looking forward to reading your field report.
Just out of curiosity, if you leave the probe in during the cooking, could you keep a note of the 'high' and 'low' temperatures that your crock pot hits and post it up?
Also, I'd be interested to get an idea of how many caps you're making and the ratio's of bud to oil etc.
It's all good info.
Hope it goes well, and keep us posted.
Cheers
Flame :thumbsup:
Welll, theoretically, the temperature shouldn't vary much because the crockpot will add heat or not depending on the temp of the probe. Also, it doesn't show the temp of the probe, only the temp that you want to keep the probe at.
I will put the oven thermometer in the crockpot to see how it varies with the temp of the oil (probe).
As far as ratios, I will be trying to keep it almost 1 to 1. My idea was to load my vaporizer with a normal load for one person and then multiply that by 3 (since I want to share this with 2 friends). I will then measure this out and measure out the same amount of oil. I'm guessing it will be close to 1 tbsp of weed. I'll add a little extra oil if it seems that the mix is too dry or pasty.
I'm thinking to make 12 caps. I will try one cap one night and then two caps the next night. If I'm not blown away I'll try three etc... It might take me a week or so to come back with all of the results because I can't get wasted on a regular basis. LOL
I'm hoping this works out because I'm planning a trip with friends and I want to knock their socks off. :D
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Ok, well, here's where I'm at so far. I decided not to use the crockpot because the temperature fluctuated too much. I even went out and bought a second oven thermometer to be sure that the first one wasn't malfunctioning. I decided to use the oven instead since the temperature is constant.
I did some experimenting before actually cooking. Here's what I found.
1) When SET at 270F, the actual oven temperature is 250F.
2) When the actual oven temp is 275F, a half cup of coconut oil is 190F.
3) When the actual oven temp is 275F, two teaspoons of coconut oil is 225F.
Based on these measurements, I decided to cook at 275F, meaning that the oil would be only 225F. Seemingly just barely in the correct range.
I started with 3/4 of a teaspoon of weed and the same amount of oil, which seemed like too much oil, but I went with a 1:1 ratio.
Soon after adding the weed to the pre-heated oil, there was a relatively strong smell of weed when I opened the oven door. This spooked me and from there my experiment kinda fell apart.
I decided to lower the actual oven temperature to 250F (meaning the oil is now probably like 200F) since this was the initial recommendation. I also added another 3/4 teaspoon of weed (thinking that I might have burnt off the initial weed) and another 1/2 teaspoon of oil which seemed like a better weed to oil ratio after doubling the weed.
So, at this point, I've got 1.5 teaspoons of weed and 1.25 teaspoons of oil, cooking at 250F oven temp and ~200F oil temp.
The first dose of weed cooked for 30 minutes at the higher temperature. After lowering the temp and adding more weed and oil, I cooked for another 2.5 hours.
The result seemed a bit heavy on the weed. There really wasn't much free standing oil as you'll see in a pic I'll post later. Most of the oil was sucked up by the weed.
I divided this into 12 equal portions and filled one gel cap full of oil/weed. I could only find size 1 gel caps, so that's what I'm using. I ate lunch at 3pm and took the gel cap at 5:30pm with basically no results whatsoever. If anything, I felt a little bit out of sorts and irritated, but not because it didn't work. I just sort of felt like I didn't want to talk to anyone.
The amount of weed I cooked is enough to get 5 people wasted using a vaporizer. So, it should take 2.4 gel caps to get to the same point. However, if I had vaped the same amount that was in one gel cap, it would have given me a very, very nice buzz for a least an hour or two.
So, today, I've eaten lunch at 11:30am and I'm taking two gel caps at 3:00pm. I'll report the results tomorrow.
If two don't work, something is definitely wrong and I'll go back to the drawing board. The only thing I can really think to change at this point is the following:
1) Increase the amount of oil to be 1:1 or 1:1.5 heavy on oil
2) Cook longer.
3) Put the measured oven temperature up around 300F, which would put the oil temp around 250F and just ignore the weed smell and see what happens.
The problem is that I don't have the time to try a lot of different iterations. I'd like to just get it right and stick with it. We'll see what happens...
Things to note:
1) My oil color is still yellow.
2) The oil temp is about 50 degrees lower than the oven temp, but it varies with the amount of oil. The more oil, the lower the temp compared to the oven.
3) Somewhat strong smell with the oven at 275F.
I'm also thinking to try just simmering a small amount of oil and weed on the stove top just to see what happens. Too many experiments, not enough time.
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how are you.
um... i read the post right above me, and i wanted to say that its ok if you smell weed while cooking. it would be impossible to burn the weed up, as long as you have a transfer medium in physical contact with the weed.
yes.... if you just heat weed, without inhaling the smoke/vapors...... it will dissipate. but if you have the transfer medium physically touching the weed...... the thc will dissipate inot the medium.
i therorize that high heat is the best, because high heat causes rapid thc release, and it releases into your medium. in this case, cooking oil.
dont be afraid to go too high on the heat. as far as i know, you cant go too high on heat as long as you have the transfer medium right there.
let me know out there if anyone has gone too high on heat and been disapointed. as far as i know, the dissapointment comes from too low heat, not too high.
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:( So my first attempt worked amazingly, but every try after that has failed. Here is what I did, I replaced butter with coconut oil and found larger capsules. I also got a new slow cooker. This means that there are a lot of new variables. My first set of pills achieved the desired results but all of the attempts with coconut produced nothing …..No buzz, no high, nothing. Coconut oil seems to simmer at a higher temp but I’m not sure what would happen if I just simmer it on the stove top in a small frying pan. Is it better to have more or less heat and if the bud is browned after cooking dose that mean its no good? Id appreciate any answers.
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Originally Posted by mobyone
Soon after adding the weed to the pre-heated oil, there was a relatively strong smell of weed when I opened the oven door. This spooked me and from there my experiment kinda fell apart.
Hi again mobyone
A couple of things occurred to me after reading your post, but the main concern I would think is the weed smell.
In the majority of cases, most people have only been measuring and reporting the 'ambient' temperature seen 'inside' the crock pot/oven, not the actual temperature of the oil/butter, therefore, it's difficult to be certain with any degree of absolute accuracy as to how much the variance between these two temperatures is the norm.
However, I'm tempted to suggest two courses of action that I think will address the issues:
Firstly, the weed to oil ratio you describe sounds a little light on oil.
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Originally Posted by mobyone
The result seemed a bit heavy on the weed. There really wasn't much free standing oil
The amount of oil needed to successfully dissolve the THC will alter slightly depending on the weed used (how well dried and cured it is etc). Some will 'soak' up more oil than others, therefore you may need to 'top up' the oil in order to achieve at least a 50/50 split. Don't worry if you have slightly more oil than weed, that's fine. Too little oil, and you run the risk of not extracting enough THC.
In the same way that adding more than half a cup of sugar to less than half a cup of water would make it difficult to dissolve all the sugar.
For your next iteration, go with the lower heat, and make a single batch. Fill and set half the mixture in capsules (leave the other half in its container), if you're not satisfied with the potency you can re-heat the remaining mixture at a slightly higher temp and then compare results.
I'm more than confident you'll find a way to crack the technique, as clearly you've done your homework and really understand the principals involved.
Good work and thanks for keeping us updated.
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Originally Posted by bogoljub777
i therorize that high heat is the best, because high heat causes rapid thc release, and it releases into your medium. in this case, cooking oil.
dont be afraid to go too high on the heat. as far as i know, you cant go too high on heat as long as you have the transfer medium right there.
Sighs. Talking about 'doing your homework and understanding the principals'.
Bogoljub, If you've returned from your recent month long ban with the intention of making a useful contribution to the site and it's forums, then welcome back.
However, if you're just posting on this thread as a provocation or to re-start your vendetta against me, I'd rather you didn't.
To give you the benefit of the doubt, in order to understand what mobyone is talking about (rather than reading and replying to just one post), you'd need to spend a little time trying to understand what it is that we're trying to achieve in this method and the techniques involved.
In order to do that you'll need to read through the thread and understand the differences between: the 'low' and 'high' settings on a crock pot (and how they vary depending on make and size), the differences between temperatures in Celsius and Fahrenheit, and what the difference actually is between a 'low' and 'high' temperature as far as cooking is concerned.
You''ll find it easier to offer advice to people once you've had first-hand experience in preparing and making your own capsules.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by spector
So my first attempt worked amazingly, but every try after that has failed. Here is what I did, I replaced butter with coconut oil and found larger capsules. I also got a new slow cooker. This means that there are a lot of new variables.
Hi again spector, how's it going?
The easy answer I guess would be to suggest going back to how you did it the first time. 'If it ain't broke. . .' etc
However, if you're after a slightly more scientific answer, I'm thinking (given what you've already said) that the crock pot is your biggest change (i.e. how much temperature is being applied).
Can you remember what setting it was on and for how long etc, also, the quantities used: oil and weed?
As a (wild) guess, I suspect it may have been running at too high a temperature (was it set on high?). Although it's not uncommon for the weed to turn brown during cooking, normally the oil itself is a pretty dark green-ish colour when done.
Once we sort out the differences between the two methods you've tried you'll be on to a sure-fire winner, especially given you've now got coconut oil and the bigger sized caps.
Good work :thumbsup:
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cheers flameon for a top post!.
i made these using hash of my last northern lights crop(which was made with the CWE technique),the resulting caps were very potent and well worth the effort.
does anyone know whether different strains result in different highs?.also i'm sure that using a better grade of hash results in a higher potency in the caps(i used A grade the finest i made),maybe explaining the lacklustre results others posters have reported.
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Great thread, I just have a couple questions. I just ordered my capsules and coconut oil from amazon. Did I get the right stuff?
I can just stick a ceramic coffee mug inside of my crock pot, and use that? Will that still transfer all the heat correctly? Should I use the 'low' or 'warm' setting? I dont want to over/under cook my stuff..
Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by EmoRebellion
Great thread, I just have a couple questions. I just ordered my
capsules and
coconut oil from amazon. Did I get the right stuff?
Looks fine to me, I have used similar stuff with amazing results, just different brand names.....
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Ok, so the first time I took one gel cap and nothing happened. The next time I at two and then 1 hour and 20 minutes later I ate another one. I had a pleasant but very mild high for about 5 hours. A bit disappointing considering that the same amount in my vaporizer would have made me go hide in a corner somewhere LOL.
Anyway, one thing I found out is that my gel caps (size 1) are 1/2 the size of what most people are using (size 00). So, two for me is like one for you.
I decided to take what I had left and cook it again in the crockpot for 4 hours. The crockpot is in my garage where it is very cold, but the temp still gets up around 300 for the last few hours. I haven't been able to check the results yet, but I will. I added a bit more oil and I'm hoping to see an improvement in the results. The tell tale sign for me will be if the oil changes from green to yellow (good) or yellow to brown (bad).
Either way, I'm taking two the first time to see if cooking at a higher temp for longer makes an appreciable difference. After that I'll try 4.
It's amazing the amount of contradictory recipes and stories you find on the net. I've seen time/temp/quantity variances all over the place. It's crazy. I guess you just have to experiment for yourself.
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Unfortunately, every "experiment" costs $60, depending on what you are using.
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I'm doing this for the first time with hash and curious how long i should let it go compared to using bud. Also how much residue should there be at the bottom or should most of it dissolve and there shouldn't be a lot of residue.
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i just got 7 grams of morroccan hash in a coin that has arabic writing stamped into it!!! smoked some and got an AMAZING body high that had a very light headed feeling too...sounds like a PERFECT specimen for cannacaps huh;)
let yall know tomorrow...if i can type
:smokebong:
whiskeytango
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Originally Posted by mobyone
I decided to take what I had left and cook it again in the crockpot for 4 hours. The crockpot is in my garage where it is very cold, but the temp still gets up around 300 for the last few hours. I haven't been able to check the results yet, but I will. I added a bit more oil and I'm hoping to see an improvement in the results. The tell tale sign for me will be if the oil changes from green to yellow (good) or yellow to brown (bad).
Hi Moby
I hope your having a bit better luck with your capsules now. I'm still a little apprehensive as cooking for an additional 4 hours (on top of the original time), seems like it could be too long to me, especially if your crock pot is hitting 300 degrees. However, as you say, the process tends to require a bit of experimentation to nail down what works for you depending on the equipment you're using.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.
Two last Q's, seeing as you were using much smaller caps, what sort of numbers were you getting out of each batch?
Also, why are you wanting the oil to be 'yellow' instead of 'green', or have I misunderstood?
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Originally Posted by EmoRebellion
Unfortunately, every "experiment" costs $60, depending on what you are using.
Wow Emo, if you're paying $60 for a couple of grams you either need to give your dealer the boot or think about growing your own. If you want to keep the cost to minimum (at least until you're confident about the results), you can try making it using just half a gram and a level teaspoon of oil. Less than $7 or $8 surely?
Anyhow, to come back to your earlier Q's, your caps and oil look good to me, the cup should be fine, and I'd go with the 'low' setting first to see how you get on.
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Originally Posted by Chrono420
I'm doing this for the first time with hash and curious how long i should let it go compared to using bud. Also how much residue should there be at the bottom or should most of it dissolve and there shouldn't be a lot of residue.
Typically, when I'm using hash I only cook it for about an hour, or an hour and a half (it doesn't need to be 'broken down' to the same degree that 'raw' plant material does). As for residue (depending on the construction method, and contents of the hash), you'll end up with a kind of brown sludge/mud that settles at the bottom of your cup. I usually give it a stir before dividing it into the caps. N.B. use every last bit in the caps.
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Originally Posted by SnSstealth
i just got 7 grams of morroccan hash in a coin that has arabic writing stamped into it!!! smoked some and got an AMAZING body high that had a very light headed feeling too...sounds like a PERFECT specimen for cannacaps huh;)
let yall know tomorrow...if i can type
:smokebong:
whiskeytango
Boy am I jealous. Last year I made some using a real strong Dutch 'nederhash' (moonshine), that sent me into 'shamanic hippie land' for 16 hours straight. Was expensive, but nothing else (so far) has been quite so explosive.
Good luck, I'm very envious.
:jointsmile:
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hey this is one of the best guides that i have seen here so far. it is very in depth and i wanna do it now kudos:thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Flameon
Also, why are you wanting the oil to be 'yellow' instead of 'green', or have I misunderstood?
I was only noting that the oil color was still yellow. I want it to be green as others have noted. So, the oil did turn greenish brown and I tried one cap which actually had an affect when 1 cap before didn't have an affect. I will try 2+ caps soon.
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"sent me into 'shamanic hippie land' for 16 hours straight" i thought that it was just me! mine was very introspective,i sat there watching deal or no deal and richard and judy thinking how profound and what spirtual depth they posessed,then spent another couple of hours contemplating the meaning of life;-)
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Originally Posted by Flameon
The essential cookery â??Equipmentâ??:
1. A Slow Cooker (see the first picture). Also known as a â??Crock Potâ?? in the States.
Or:
A medium sized pan, a mixing bowl and a lid (see the second picture), and some hot water.
2. A quantity of size 00 Gelatine Capsules. They can be bought from some pharmacies, health food shops or online in quantities of 100+ (see third picture).
3. A teaspoon (hopefully everyone will have one of these).
The essential cookery â??Ingredientsâ??:
Either: 1 gram of good Hashish (not soap bar).
Or: 1 gram of fine grained â??keifâ??.
Or: 1.5 grams of good â??Budâ?? (no stems, no seeds, or pointy leaves).
And: 7 grams (one and a half teaspoons) of Coconut oil or clarified butter*.
The optional cookery items:
A capsule holder to help when filling (see part 3).
A syringe or pipette to fill the caps with a measured dose of oil (see part 3).
A set of accurate measuring spoons (see part 3).
OK, assuming youâ??ve got access to a â??crock potâ?? (or a least a pan and a mixing bowl), and a little â??weedâ??, what else is required?
The other main essential items are the capsules to put your activated mixture in, and (possibly) a few other extras to help in the measuring and filling process, and thatâ??s it.
Instead of buying those capsule things can i just empty like a ADD medication capsule and fill it up?
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what do you think would happen if you used the oil to make brownies or something like that?
sorry if this has already been mentioned, i just dont have time to read all of the pages right now
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Originally Posted by Weedhound
If you had all 12 capsules in your hands when the cops came......you'd be busted with a handful of coconut oil and 1.5 grams of bud. That's all you have ....that's all they can do. ;)
This isn't exactly true. The law states that when determining the weight of the 'marijuana substance', it is the total of the smokable portion of marijuana (THC) and any other combined substances. (Eg. You get caught with weed. They weigh the whole bud including stems and seeds, which aren't smoked.)
But im not sure about the caps. It would probably be one of the situations where the court will have to determine the action and not just use stare decisis.
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Unless you have a nice stem or whatever in your capsules you've still only got 1.5 grams of weed so I'm not sure what you are saying there......
If what you mean is that the OIL is now illegal because it's got THC in it.....that might be something to think about.
Thanks for the tip. ;)
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Exactly right. From how the law states in most US States, the oil would be illegal now. But since this would probably be different than any other case the judge has determined, he will probably have to either hold up the idea that the oil is illegal (stare decisis) or make a different ruling. The problem is, that the oil will probably be included in the weight because there is no way to determine how much weed you actually put in them. (They won't just take your word on it).
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Well you make a very good point...starts me to wondering if they would call it some sort of "hash oil" or something. I DO see what you mean about weighing the oil (and the capsule itself) as part of the process since they normally DO include stems and such in weight.
You say a judge would have to decide. Do you happen to know if the police could CHARGE you with something else (possession of hash oil) or just possession of mj or could they decide pretty much whatever they wanted as far as the original charges go?
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Bogo....
I used to follow a recipe for cannabis cooking that inlcluded instructions to cook the ganja at approx 350-375F. I can tell you EASILY from personal experience that cooking over 300F caused me BIG issues in burning off thc. High heat certainly did destroy some of the thc because I NEVER made capsules as anywhere near as strong as the ones I make now. The difference......I now cook only on low heat and monitor my temps carefully. I recommend between 200-250F just from my own experiences in cooking. :thumbsup:
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Very fucking cool !!! The thought of tasting that clarified butter as it cooks, has my mouth watering. I can hardly wait. Thanks!
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Ok first let me say i have read every post in this thread.
I am a Certified Exec Chef at a Widely recognized Hotel in the #1 tourist destination in the world.
I have a degree in culinary Arts and a Minor in Nutrition as well i am a avid smoker of cannibus. Until recently when i came across this thread. :D
Now I used my own knowledge as well as your original recipe(FLAME & HOUND) as a guide. I decide anything worth doing is worth investing a little cash and doing right. ( i went through some trial and errors)
Eventually we decided on a digital crock pot with a tempurature control.
Inside and this is where most of you a getting variances. . . is what your putting inside the crock pot to hold you oil and cannibus powder. I hear some of you using coffee cups okay but what is the coffee cup made out of?
ceramic has a higher heat threshhold then say phaftzgraft. As well the surface area of the bottem of the cup plays a roll in heating times and simmer times.
From Culinary Knowledge i'd say use something highly heat conductive like aluminium, and make the cooking surface area as large as possible depending on how much your cooking off. This will heat up to temp faster and produce less time to get the desired effect. Before warned that speeding the time requires a more close eye to be kept on your product as well.
I also used the idea for the gardening foam to use a mold for the capsules (whoever posted that great idea and a steal at 2.50 each )
Being the nutrionists i found a organic store that had extra virgin 100% organic coconut oil. (unbeatable i think) The saturated fat will even help break down extra surgar that is ingested which would lead to less chanch of diabeties, obesity, liver disfunction ect.
If your after the killer buzz because the stomach is more active during exercise the best time to take these to make for quicker release would be to take them just before working out. It will speed your metabilism and break down the capsules even faster.
about the 5th batch i made i found my magic temperature for the tray i was using in the crock pot.
Now that the method was secured it was time to see how valuable this product would be.
Flameon i don't think you expected this but i'm sure deep down you knew some capitolist entrepenure would put your idea to good use. :D
Well we took hounds 1/8 recipe and did a x128 yield basically 1lb of cannibus. It yielded approx 3200 capsules :cool:the capsules that were sold at a Lincoln Park Concert in the Parking lot for $3 US each. . . Sold Out in 3 hours:pimp: (they were tested for potency prior to sale). :rasta:
so $9600 US
Supplies-
- 4000 - cannibus
- 75 - digitil crock pot
- 20 - thermometers
- 35 - 2foot (hand held pepper mill tighten for fine grind)i found this to be way better then grinders)
- 42 - capsules
- 10 - gardening trays/ metal scraper
- 22 - coconut oil
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- 4204
9600 - 4204 = net profit 1 weekend = $5396.00 US
Flame/Hound if i ever meet you i owe you big time!!
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
Great, so do you care to tell us your temps, methods etc...?
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
Flameon,
Thank you very much. Seems like forever ago since I begged for this tutorial, and I'm just now getting around to reading it. I guess I just now am in a position to do something about it. Very well done, and I can't wait to try. Thanks again and... hey whadda you know? I'm actually able to rep someone for once.
tenag,
The others are right about eating weed as opposed to smoking. It is completely different in my book. Much better actually. Crisper and cleaner or something, and definitely stronger, and most definitely longer.
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
Oh crap. There's 15 pages?
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
I got my capsules last night, but am still waiting on the oil. While messing around I decided to inject a little water inside of one of the pills. After about 10 mins, the pill started to disintegrate. Did I get the wrong type of capsule, or will this not happen with the oil inside?
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
emo...let me try it with one of mine.....what kind are yours? Gelatin or vegetable oil?
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
anyone know if it will work with walnut oil? thanks
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
Great, so do you care to tell us your temps, methods etc...?
Certainly mobyone i used a aluminium lid from a cookie tin instead of the coffee cup this tin lid was circle and 6 inches in diameter.
i heated the crock pot to to 285F on the digital reader although inside thermometer temp was 290F. Then put the lid in and within say 60 seconds the tray was up to temp as well. Add your oil approx. 5min till oil was to temp then added the herb and slow cooked it. After the first batch its even faster because the pot and tray are near temp already. us a rubber spatula to remove everything from the tray quickly.
we cooked each batch 2h 45 min each.
Immediately dumped into a Tupperware Container
(FYI Tupperware has 100% replacement offer so anything gets ruined i can get it Replaced for FREE) here's a link to a consultants website i know [URL="http://www.My.Tupperware.com/ThomasR"]
then we took the foam garndening trays with a 1/2 capsule in each hole. Filled each capsule 1/2 with semi hard oil from freezer with a cake decorating pipette.
We filled both 1/2's then pushed the foam pieces together closing the capsules. Some of the oil squirts out like playdough from over filling. ( but not enough to make me use a different method when mass producing)
We then took a metal scraper and scrapped the remaining excess.
all the Medication was stored in those HEat-N- serve dishes( there designed to go from your oven to , freezer, fridge, reheat, served, and dishwashed.
FYI i walked right past a police K-9 unit at the concert and it wasn't alerted in the least bit, i even reached out to pet him and his master was like please don't touch him he's working. I smirked and thought to myself "YEah Right, that what you think! That dog is just benine to todays technology "
to take it to the concert we just stuck them in the cooler in vitamin bottles like protein tablet for lifting weights.
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
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Originally Posted by Weedhound
emo...let me try it with one of mine.....what kind are yours? Gelatin or vegetable oil?
They are supposed to be gelatin. These are what I ordered: Amazon.com: Double '00' Gelatin Caps by NOW Foods - (250 Capsules): Health & Personal Care
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
The caps will disolve in water not oil..put a capsule in ur mouth and after a while take it out and it will be much softer.
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
Hey emo, I have both kinds....gelatin and veg oil.....my gelatin ones melted right away in water but the veg-oil ones didn't.
PS....I have used both kinds (and still do) and haven't had any problems with them melting. I would make sure to keep your caps in the fridge to solidify the oil as well. But I can honestly say I don't even worry about what kind I am buying.....they both work fine for me. ;)
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
I am making some right now. Got 30 min left. I made it with reggie. Used about 3 grams 1 1/2 t spoons of oil. I wanted to work out kinks with cheaper weed first. Ill let u know how it goes when it take em tomorrow. I also used a metal container ( a jigger) to put it in. see how that works too.
Oh, weedhound. I don't know what the cop could charge you with. Probably marijuana substance. Dunno about calling it hash oil. dunno if that carries a stronger sentence.
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Cannabis Capsules â?? A step-by-step guide.
cooking up a batch at the moment :thumbsup:
about an hour left. 1.5 grams of extermly fine bud (looks and smokes like keif). temps are between 180-220F. im using high mids. this stuff is actually good for mids. one bowl does me fine and ive been smoking for 10+ years.
i plan on doubling up the pills. so 1 = 2. i'll let you guys know tomorrow how they turn out.