Thank you. You do make a good point as well thou. To those that are born into religion. I suggest questioning it but never loose yourself by doing so. Roots baby roots.
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
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Thank you. You do make a good point as well thou. To those that are born into religion. I suggest questioning it but never loose yourself by doing so. Roots baby roots.
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
"Why is it that if someone has made up thier own mind and chooses to follow what the Bible and Jesus say's it's not making up thier own mind?".
Well mainly because you are looking to a source for guidance through one's life. e.g. I have a problem in my life, I will consult the bible to help me through this. Maybe in your view Jehova's Witnesses are justified in allowing their children to die, instead of having blood transfusions, but in my morality they are not. Also, I'd rather you didn't accuse me of slander. You might have confused 'slander' with 'logical argument'. You might feel I am personally attacking Christians, but maybe that's because you feel your beliefs cannot be questioned. I don't feel like that; if there was conclusive evidence of God's existence, or if I ever felt his 'presence' in any way, i would be the first to convert. I'm sorry if i've offended you Rev, but when you believe something, you have to understand there are always going to be people who believe something else, just as strongly as you. As for the reply to Ghostoker's comment "alot of people are born with out religion, and never question it", that doesn't really hold up. The point you should make is that both sides are equally blinkered, but someone who lives without religion and lives by common sense and empirical evidence, is a lot less likely to convert to a religion after questioning their beliefs than vice versa.
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Mr. Chinnery-
I do believe you have ill will against Christians because I don't see where else in any other religion topic you've posted. In fact you started a thread that says as a title "Baiting Christians". You also posted a question trying to trap Christians. In my mind by just those two things you are against Christians. Thats not even counting the other posts by you. I don't care if you disagree with me thats your life choice. Who am I to question you? I spread what I believe to be God's good news of forgiveness. Thats all, wheather you "convert" or not doesn't bother me one bit. I would love to hang out in heaven with you thats why I tell you what I believe but again it's your choice. You don't offend me by what you say because I have heard it all before and a little worse. My beliefs come into question everyday by others so I don't feel my beliefs are unquestionable but if thats how I'm coming off I will make it a point not to be like that. About Jahove Witnesses, I witness to them as well. I have five verses from the Bible I question them about so it's not only pot heads I try to reach I try to reach everyone I talk to. I don't agree with there idea's over blood transfusions and if I had a relative that was one and had a child that needed one I would kidnap the child and make sure it lives. But thats just me imposing on others beliefs as you feel I do often. One day you will feel God's presence and I hope that you do talk with him and ask him the questions like "Can you create a rock...." Maybe he will have a better answer then I do. May my Lord watch over and protect you from all harm and hurt. God Bless.
Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ
I have no ill will towards Christians per se, just Christianity and religions in general. You've mistaken my scepticism as personal attacks, but that's not the case. I understand why you feel it's personal, but nothing I say is intentionally offensive. I'd love to have a chat with God, but I doubt his answers would be any better...
I'ld like to thank you guys for an intelligent and thought provoking debate. The fact that you are mature enough to be respectful of one anothers views only enhance your opinions. It's nice to see that there are some Wonderful people here that set an example of tolerance for others and their beliefs.
THE THC MINISTER RULES SUPREME
I personally love smoking pot I refrain because to me it is clearly wrong. I your Christianity is just a hobby you than you probably don't care about that.
God made arsenic and mercury so should we put it in a pipe and smoke it?
I smoked everyday for about ten years grew it in Hawaii carried it internationally.
I think pot is much safer then cigs and alcohol. It is hard on the lungs but can be vaporized.
I can think of plenty of reason to smoke and love the way it makes me feel.
It is illegal and does not go well with ministry.
All man sins so I don't think it prevents one from entering heaven just makes one less effective in ministry. If you are not in ministry "actively spreading Gods truth" then you are in my opinion a hobbiest.
Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of Gods glory.
It is an up hill battle for all.
Thats why he gave us help "a savior"
Romans 13:1-2 tell us to be in subjection to the superior authorities even as we are to God. further, we are to be in relative subjection to kings and governors as they have their positions due to God's allowance. (1Peter 2:13-17)
Considering it as obeying God, we would want to view obeying tax laws and traffic laws as the same whether someone is watching or not. That is part of what Christian integrity means.
Mike, if they ban worshiping the Christian faith, should you obey the laws of the land. How about if they begin to force immunizations (a very real possibility).
Let me give another example, the draft. We now have war on many fronts. If drafted would you go? How about for a war you believed was unjust (if you considering the current just).
We live (the US) in the most litigious country in the world (possibly in the history of the world). We have prisons full of people who did nothing other than smoke a plant you can grow in your back yard and which has been both legal and part of world cultures since the beginning.
Regarding ministry...
Please define this for me... Are you speaking of the Apostolic succession of the Priesthood? If you talking about each persons responsibility to "minister" in their environment I would say anything in excess would have a negative impact, including herb. However, if kicking back in my home office for a few minutes and burning a bowl allows me shut down the stress of the day and roll in the floor with my kids and spend quality time with them... well, let's just call it ministry.
Hello Rev. How do I join your church or however you have it labled?? I am very much interested and I admire your work.
To whom are you addressing your question? If it is to me, Orthodoxy is everywhere and they are all about the same. The only personality Orthodoxy pushes is that of Jesus Christ. As a result, who the priest may be is less relevant. Ping me directly and I would be happy to help you find a parish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sil3ntSpirit