The current state of hip hop

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Originally Posted by suhl

i guess what i consider good songwriting and what you do is a little different. its all good differing opinions make the world go round my brother:rasta:

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Let's just leave it at this: suhl speaks the truth. I'll take Neil Young any day thanks, where 'less is more' if you know what I mean. Speaking abstractly about God knows what with little-to-no rhyme pattern isn't what I'd call hip-hop, more like poetry? That was a nice poem you posted. Poem.

And I am being open mined about it. That's why I said "I'm willing to learn". You're the one that took it as sarcasm, not me.

One love. ~

Immortal Technique, disintegrates mic's when I spit
I cause more casualties than sunken slave ships
Full to capacity, I bring tragedy to rap without my man Kadafi
The government took Nazi scientists from Germany
To design nuclear rockets and ways of observin' me
'Cause their pathetic attempts, didn't work to murder me
When this country was conceived, these bastards never heard of me
But now I hold the souls of slave masters eternally
Bleeding internally, burnin' D, durin' surgery, verbally
'Cause I'm a spiritual witch
Devils are incompatible
I've been around since the planet was inhabitable
I spit in the ocean and created microscopic animals
Which involved into two species, the righteous and the cannibals
But until then, I had alien women suck me off
When God said "Let there be light", I turned it the fuck off
And that's the reason that the earth is only 5 billion years old
I made the sun shine, and permitted time to unfold
The surface was lava, but when I stepped down, it became cold
Fuck what you've been told
My spiritual form became a swarm of molecule sickness
Manifested liquid trapped inside a mountainous region
Until the skies starting raining, continuous seasons
Immortal Technique, at long last, reincarnated
Undebatably reinstated to leave you decapitated
Je suis fou, but my crazy words make sense
I'll split every pound of your body into six pence
I'm sick of simple similes about The Sixth Sense
I'll leave your body drenched in the blood of all your ancestors
You'll never be at peace, like the souls of child molestors
I'll cut you and bless your festering wounds with alcohol
Drown you in a clogged toilet, in a public bathroom stall
I'll rip you down, take a chunk of you home like the Berlin Wall
This is the final call, for all the rappers that wanna brawl
Immortal Technique, the wrong motherfucker to diss
'Cause I allow God to let you motherfuckers exist

Hahahahaha yeah, real oh
We about to crash somethin' now, yo
Yo, yo, yo
I'm the stronghold on your neck that doesn't let you breathe
Stronger than the fake image of God in which you believe
More dangerous than your ignorant ass could ever percieve
A European virus, mutated in Africa, overseas
Transported by mosquitoes and fleas to where you live
So lock yourself in your house with your wife and your kids
You're such a bitch, somebody probably made you out of a rib
My arrest record just scratches the surface of what I did
My bid locked me up and brought my life to an end
I was forgotten, abandoned by my bitches and friends
You don't want beef with people like me so don't pretend
I'll resurrect your aborted baby and kill it again
You get no props in hip-hop like feminine men
I'm iller than any plague God gave Moses to send
You wanna make amends, 'cause I'm the reason that the earth shakes
Burying your fam like Central American earthquakes

Immortal Technique
Harlem to Canada
Lyrically damage ya!

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Originally Posted by Its a Plant

Let's just leave it at this: suhl speaks the truth. I'll take Neil Young any day thanks, where 'less is more' if you know what I mean. Speaking abstractly about God knows what with little-to-no rhyme pattern isn't what I'd call hip-hop, more like poetry? That was a nice poem you posted. Poem.

And I am being open mined about it. That's why I said "I'm willing to learn". You're the one that took it as sarcasm, not me.

One love. ~

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see, why isnt it hip hop? just cause its poetic now its all of a sudden no longer hip hop? thats what im trying to tell you, that rap isnt just plain rap, rap can be so much more, but you seem to not want to accept that, yeah ok you like neil young, great, im not gonna say anything about him, you like him, great, so why did you choose to post in this thread then, i was simply discussing how horrible mainstream rap has become, and then you come in here saying, "other genres have better lyricits" well good, no one said only rap has good lyricists, in a way your making it seem as though rap has NO good lyricists, which is my reason for posting what i did, there are some, it just depends on your opinion of good, you say its good poetry, but the simple fact of the matter is that Aesop Rock and Illogic are both, rappers, not poets, rappers, they rap, and the song, not poem, is a rap song, and if you are willing to learn, like you said then why not act like it? sems like you just said that so you could later claim to have an open mind, anyone can say theyre open minded, my little cousin could say it, but that doesnt mean you are being open minded, but its ok, you can continue to listen to your neil young, and ill listen to my music, just wondering why you even posted in here if all you could contribute is "rap has no lyricists" and then once i post one, you automatically say its crap, whatever its cool at least you didnt swear and bitch like some kids and were mature about it, just wish you were more open minded o well

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Originally Posted by hempilation311

i just saw a commercial for some new song called "chain hang low". wtf man... I don't give a damn about your bling. i just hate that apparently some people do.

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That is one of the worst songs I have ever heard.

Mainstream hip hop is terrible.

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Originally Posted by K_Shootz_Den

see, why isnt it hip hop? just cause its poetic now its all of a sudden no longer hip hop? thats what im trying to tell you, that rap isnt just plain rap, rap can be so much more, but you seem to not want to accept that, yeah ok you like neil young, great, im not gonna say anything about him, you like him, great, so why did you choose to post in this thread then, i was simply discussing how horrible mainstream rap has become, and then you come in here saying, "other genres have better lyricits" well good, no one said only rap has good lyricists, in a way your making it seem as though rap has NO good lyricists, which is my reason for posting what i did, there are some, it just depends on your opinion of good, you say its good poetry, but the simple fact of the matter is that Aesop Rock and Illogic are both, rappers, not poets, rappers, they rap, and the song, not poem, is a rap song, and if you are willing to learn, like you said then why not act like it? sems like you just said that so you could later claim to have an open mind, anyone can say theyre open minded, my little cousin could say it, but that doesnt mean you are being open minded, but its ok, you can continue to listen to your neil young, and ill listen to my music, just wondering why you even posted in here if all you could contribute is "rap has no lyricists" and then once i post one, you automatically say its crap, whatever its cool at least you didnt swear and bitch like some kids and were mature about it, just wish you were more open minded o well

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i really have no idea if any of that was directed at me or not but i actually took the time to look at his lyrics and didnt find them to be good. i posted here because in my opinion rap doesnt have any lyricists and the post asked your opinion on the current state of hip hop. i iwish you could be a little more open minded and not accuse people of being closed minded when they dont agree with you. thank you:pimp:

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The current state of hip hop

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Hmmmmm I am going to have to say Iowa:D

I read the 1st page of this thread and had enough...

Theres nothing wrong with hip hop, or rap. There is something wrong with the fans. They keep buying into the same shit, so the record companies keep puttin out the same shit. Someone else said basically the same thing before me.

Rap / Hip Hop will never "come to a halt". Its here to stay. Some of the fans, will move on to something different, cause thats what people that dont really love something to begin with do.

Quit your cryin' and bitchin' and listen to what you like to listen to. If rap and hip hop isnt your thing, then go listen to something else. Real hip hop / rap fans will never quit listening to this stuff.

Hip Hop was about partyin and girls and chains and shit back then too. Not always some socially conscious lyrical shit. Its music. It changes, and some things stay the same.

QUIT REACHIN'.

Best rapper n da game is The Jacka,hes an underground bay area artist (who dnt get hyphy!) and when i dnt like 2 throw the word artist around all willy nilly,but dude really makes quality music,and he just singed a distrabution deal wit universal,he got a myspace,check him out

It's all about the underground baby ;)

a lot of people here have been spouting off names of some pretty big underground phenomenas but your all neglecting the kings, the guys who made it to the pinnacle of underground rap with sheer willpower alone: i.......c.......muthafuckin.....p. no record company made them big, nobody made them big other than themselves and thats a fact. they got original beats in almost all of their songs, not some recycled generic bullshit you hear on the radio. youve also neglected esham, twistid, abk and blaze ya dead homie. whats wrong with you people?