The Freemasons

i think the knights templar is the illuminati. there are 2 types of freemasons, well back in the day there was. it was the freemasons that actually built things like cathedrals and so on. then there was "spectative freemasons" who didnt build anything but joined up with alterior motives.

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Originally Posted by CocaCola

Does this God-like being have to be literally a being. Can't I say that this 'being' is one collective conscious? No? So I can't join?



They're watching us... >.>

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No mason can ask you to join as you must join of your own will and not be born in the bonds of slavery. You must beleive in a sumreme being. Not a particular one. You must just beleive. Freemasonry isn't just about owing the world. It is about owning the heavens.

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Originally Posted by Trichome Creator

If you note on the pyramid on the back of a dollar bill there is a pentagram.
When connected properly it spells "MASON".

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Hey Mr. Latin speaking guy... what does Motis Operondi mean? (No, I can't spell it.)

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Originally Posted by Trichome Creator

No mason can ask you to join as you must join of your own will and not be born in the bonds of slavery. You must beleive in a sumreme being. Not a particular one. You must just beleive. Freemasonry isn't just about owing the world. It is about owning the heavens.

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I know this... I read a long time ago, trust me... this is very interesting stuff... though I can't say I'm for the Freemasons. Owning the heavens isn't for you guys, in my opinion. But my opinion doesn't matter, cause I'm just a "regular".

modus operandi means habitual method of procedure. for example if a serial killer kills people a distinct way like with a hatchet, then thats his MO.

The Pope (Yes the one in the Vatican) has Latin Written on his Mitre, which reads

VICarIoUs fILII DeI

Do the Math on the Roman Numerals

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Originally Posted by CocaCola

Hey Mr. Latin speaking guy... what does Motis Operondi mean? (No, I can't spell it.)


I know this... I read a long time ago, trust me... this is very interesting stuff... though I can't say I'm for the Freemasons. Owning the heavens isn't for you guys, in my opinion. But my opinion doesn't matter, cause I'm just a "regular".

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It stands for Method Of Procedure.

Ok... I was just wondering what it translates to. Thanks.

Great Men Who Were and Are Masons

Composers
Irving Berlin George M. Cohan Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
John Phillip Sousa Richard Wagner Franz Joseph Haydn
Franz Listz
Entertainers
Gene Autry Ernest Borgnine Joe E. Brown
Bob Burns Eddie Cantor Charles D. Coburn
William F. "Buffalo Bill" Cody Donald Crisp Cecil B. DeMille
Richard Dix Douglas Fairbanks Sr. W.C. Fields
Clark Gable Arthur Godfrey David W. Griffith
Oliver Hardy Jean Hersholt Harry Houdini
Al Jolson Charles "Buck" Jones Harry Kellar
Harold C. Lloyd Tom Mix Dick Powell
Will Rogers Charles S. "Tom Thumb" Stratton Richard B. "Red" Skelton
John Wayne Paul Whiteman Ed Wynn
Darryl Zanuck
Sculptors
Gutzon Borglum and son, Lincoln Borglum together carved Mt. Rushmore National Memorial
Johann G. Schadow Prussian Court Sculptor
J. Otto Schweizer

Writers
Robert Burns Samuel L. Clemens (Mark Twain) Sir Arthur Conan Doyle (Sherlock Holmes)
Edward Gibbon (Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire) Edgar A. Guest Rudyard Kipling
Alexander Pope Sir Walter Scott Jonathan Swift
Lowell Thomas Voltair

Business Leaders
John Jacob Astor (financier) Lloyd Balfour (Jewelry) Lawrence Bell (Bell Aircraft Corp.)
William H. Dow (Dow Chemical Co.) Henry Ford Alfred Fuller (Fuller Brush)
King C. Gillette (Gillette Razor Co.) Sir Thomas Lipton (tea) Fredrick Maytag
Andrew W. Mellon (banker) James C. Penny George Pullman
David Sarnoff (father of T.V.) Leland Stanford (railroads - Stanford Univ.)


Military Leaders
Gen.John J. Pershing Gen.George Marshall Gen.Douglas MacArthur
Gen.Joseph Stillwell Gen.Johnathon Wainwright Gen.Curtis E. LaMay
Gen.Omar N. Bradley Gen.Henry H. "Hap" Arnold Gen.Claire L. Chenault
Mark Clark James Doolittle Adm.David G. Farragut (1st Admiral of U.S. Navy)
Adm.Ernest J. King Richard Byrd

United States Patriots
Francis Scott Key (wrote our National Anthem) Ralph Bellamy (wrote our Pledge of Allegiance) Paul Revere
John Paul Jones Benjamin Franklin John Hancock
Patrick Henry

United States Politicians
Thomas Dewey Everett Dirksen Fiorello H. LaGuardia
John Marshall Barry Goldwater Hubert Humphrey
Robert Dole Jack Kemp

United States Presidents
George Washington James Monroe Andrew Jackson
James Polk James Buchanan Andrew Johnson
James Garfield William McKinley Theodore Roosevelt
William H. Taft Warren G. Harding Franklin D. Roosevelt
Harry S. Truman Gerald Ford

World Leaders
Emilio Aguinaldo (Phillippine Patriot and General) Miguel Aleman (Mexican President 1947-52) Eduard Benes (President of Czechoslovakia 1939-48)
Sveinn Bjornsson (1st President of Iceland) Simon Bolivar ("George Washington of S. America" Napoleon Bonaparte (and his four brothers)
King Charles XIII (King of Sweden 1748-1818) Sir Winston Churchill Randolph Churchill
King Edward VII and King Edward VIII (Kings of England, 1901-10 & 36, respectively) Francis II (Holy Roman Emperor, 1768-1806) Frederick the Great (King of Prussia 1740-86)
George I & George II (Kings of Greece, 1845-1913 & 1922-47) George IV & George VI (Kings of England 1760-1820 & 1820-30) Gustavus VI Adolphus (King of Sweden 1792-1809)
Kamehemeha IV and Kemehemeha V (Kings of Hawaii (1854-63 & 1863-72) Leopold I (King of Belgium (1831-65) Peter the Great (Emperor of Russia 1689-1725)
William I (King of Prussia 1861-88) William II (King of the Netherlands (1792-1849) William IV (King of England (1830-37)

Religious Leaders
James C. Baker (Bishop, Methodist Church, organized first Wesley Foundation in U.S.) Hosea Ballou (Founder, Universalist Church) Robert E. B. Baylor (Baptist clergyman, founder of Baylor University)
Preston Bradley (founder of the Peoples Church) Father Francisco Calvo (Catholic Priest who started Freemasonry in Costa Rica in 1865) Hugh I. Evans (National head of the Presbyterian Church, U.S.A.)
Most Reverend Geoffrey F. Fisher (former Archbishop of Canterbury) Eugene M. Frank (Methodist Bishop) Reverend Dr. Norman Vincent Peale (Methodist Episcopal minister and author)
Titus Low (President of Methodist Council of Bishops) Thomas Starr King Swami Vivekananda

Astronauts
Ed "Buzz" Aldrin Neil Armstrong Gordon Cooper
Don Eisle Virgil Grissom Ed Michell
Tom Stafford Fred Haise Wally Shirra

Explorers
Hiram Bingham (Discoverer of Machu Picchu) James Bruce (Discoverer of the source of the Blue Nile) Adm. Richard E. Byrd
Christopher "Kit" Carson William Clark Merriwether Lewis
Robert E. Peary

Inventors and Scientists
Samuel Colt (firearms) Sir Alexander Fleming (penicillin) Edward Jenner (vaccination)
Simon Lake (first practical submarine) John L. McAdam (Macadamized roads) Luther Burbank

Sports Atheletes
Grover C. Alexander Cy Young Jack Dempsey
Arnold Palmer Tyrus R. "Ty" Cobb Carl O. Hubbell
Christopher "Christy" Mathewson Mordecai P.C. Brown Gordon "Mickey" Corchran
Avery Brundage Albert "Happy" Chandler Branch Rickey
Knute Rockne

Youth Organization Founders
Daniel Carter Beard (Boy Scouts) Frank S. Land (International Order of DeMolay) William Mark Sexson (International Order of Rainbow for Girls)

http://www.sbmasons.com/sbmasons/secrets.htm has a clearer list.

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Originally Posted by daZenfmeister

This is the bullshit that I dont like, you tell us that we can do nothing but believe me WE outnumber YOU by alot 'brother' when it comes down to it I will be deciding the fate of my leaders not the other way around. You underestimate people like myself, sure alot of people out there are idiots who wouldnt know beans from TV Dinners but nature and the laws of the universe come full circle. What I mean is that if something is wrong and unjust then things will always change eventually, I dont know if its some crappy movie headline but the phrase "Adversity creates its own solution" bears alot of meaning right now.

This whole issue gets down to the argument of whether to comit unfair actions for personal gains is right or not. I think that we first must lower our expectations of 'Good' and 'Evil' because one doesnt exist without the other. If we take on a view of existance that incorporates both actions then we remove the labels on them and a good deed isnt different that a bad one. they're both just things that can be done. But this is flawed in the sense that in our modern society you can still be punished for a crimes and injustices, so in order for a leading power to achieve stability in this way you must first change societies accepted views.

I think that when I am givin a chance to lead that I would be perfect, my world would exist in peace and harmony according to my views, which is a sybiotic relational comparison and solutional development of all included groups.

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Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled ...
The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry.

How do you propose we take over Heaven, brother Trichome?