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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

What I'm saying is that they created your Universe, you can't deny it. But, it's something you can hold against them. But they're Our immediate Gods and we have to be accepted by them before we can attain other Gods.

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Define "God" then. This is one of the main problems I have with theists, is that they never define the word for me, and often say that the word is actually undefinable. Which, of course, makes any discussion about the idea impossible.

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Saying that Jesus was the Son of God to explain everything that happened in his lifetime, for 2000 years, must have something behind it and we can't see it, because we're the future people, the ones who God, Himself, had planned for all along. Our time's up, I think. It's time to change the World. Jimi Hendrix said the Earth flips axis every 2,000 years or so, and I believe Him. Oh, and by the way, I think God was within Jimi Hendrix.

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Huh? Jesus was just one of many people in his time claiming to be the messiah. I could say I'm the messiah. For example:

I'm the messiah.

That doesn't mean there's anything behind it though. Is it so wrong to ask for proof of such an outrageous claim?

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Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs

So what's the story with Jesus then? Is he the only man in history to say he's the Son of God?

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Almost all ancient heroes 'became' gods after their deeds earned them great renown. Herakles, Romulus, Buddha, Confucius, Lao Zi, Gilgamesh, and probably many more, they all were later considered godlike because of their superhuman deeds, whether feats of strength or great thought.

If you think Jesus is unique, you're sadly mistaken. Check up on Ancient Egyptian religion, Jesus is pretty much a combination of Osiris and Horus. Every miracle he supposedly performed was previously performed by these two, and often the wording describing the miracles are identical.

Consider this: There's a story that says that Horus raised Osiris from the dead. Legend also has it that the Hebrew people spent a long time in Egypt, therefore the Egyptian influence on their culture is certain. The Hebrew word for Osiris is Asar, and the called him El Asar, which means Lord Osiris. Therefore, according to ancient Hebrews, Horus raised a man named El Asar from the dead. Of course, during the time of Jesus, Latin was pretty much the official languange of the Empire, and El Asar soon became El-Asar-us, or Lazarus. Thus, in the Gospels, Jesus raises a man named Lazaraus from the dead.

This is only one little example out of hundreds. The Bible is not a great work of wisdom and religion, it's a rehash of older religions that are given a new facade. It's like if I write a book, and simply re-write Moby Dick in my own words... Would you call that a great book?

You might be interested in this little tidbit of information from Michael Shermer:

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Jesus was not the only messiah at the time. There were lots of messiahs. In fact, there was another fellow named Apollonius of Tyana, who, in the first century, was claimed by his followers that he healed the sick, raised the dead, was able to walk through walls and buildings, that he was in fact persecuted for his religious beliefs, he was brought to trial by the local Roman courts, he was crucified and after he died he, we are told, ascended to Heaven and he came back where his followers saw him. This is not the Jesus story. This is Apollonius of Tyana. Who the heck is that?

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

You might be interested in this little tidbit of information from Michael Shermer:

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LOL, "who the heck is that?"

His publicist wasn't very effective... at least not as much as Jesus' :pimp:

Not.

More Christian family values, this time from Deuteronomy 21:18-21, which tells us very clearly what should be done about disobedient sons:

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If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

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"And so they went out into the field and lay there" - Leviticus

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Originally Posted by ermitonto

Define "God" then. This is one of the main problems I have with theists, is that they never define the word for me, and often say that the word is actually undefinable. Which, of course, makes any discussion about the idea impossible.


Huh? Jesus was just one of many people in his time claiming to be the messiah. I could say I'm the messiah. For example:

I'm the messiah.

That doesn't mean there's anything behind it though. Is it so wrong to ask for proof of such an outrageous claim?

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Ermintoto, God started this whole sha-bang, and his plans are for every species of life on Earth, not the destruction of mankind. I'm gonna start sounding like GhoSToker, but you have to kill the chickens. He gave us Angels to live with. Even animals.

That's what intrigues me the most about Jesus Christ, is why he is the only man in History to be considered the Son of God.
My thoughts are that Jimi Hendrix was the Second Coming.

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Originally Posted by F L E S H

Almost all ancient heroes 'became' gods after their deeds earned them great renown. Herakles, Romulus, Buddha, Confucius, Lao Zi, Gilgamesh, and probably many more, they all were later considered godlike because of their superhuman deeds, whether feats of strength or great thought.

If you think Jesus is unique, you're sadly mistaken. Check up on Ancient Egyptian religion, Jesus is pretty much a combination of Osiris and Horus. Every miracle he supposedly performed was previously performed by these two, and often the wording describing the miracles are identical.

Consider this: There's a story that says that Horus raised Osiris from the dead. Legend also has it that the Hebrew people spent a long time in Egypt, therefore the Egyptian influence on their culture is certain. The Hebrew word for Osiris is Asar, and the called him El Asar, which means Lord Osiris. Therefore, according to ancient Hebrews, Horus raised a man named El Asar from the dead. Of course, during the time of Jesus, Latin was pretty much the official languange of the Empire, and El Asar soon became El-Asar-us, or Lazarus. Thus, in the Gospels, Jesus raises a man named Lazaraus from the dead.

This is only one little example out of hundreds. The Bible is not a great work of wisdom and religion, it's a rehash of older religions that are given a new facade. It's like if I write a book, and simply re-write Moby Dick in my own words... Would you call that a great book?

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Well, what about Celasse? :stoned:

"We shall seek lower ground for our smoke to rise to higher ground and stone everyone else." Extravicus 12:5