Seriously, a lot of the bible, I imagine, I've never read it, oh, well, then... I guess it's useless for me to get in this conversation. But Peter, who lived by the train tracks, said he "took a dump and it was that long!"
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Seriously, a lot of the bible, I imagine, I've never read it, oh, well, then... I guess it's useless for me to get in this conversation. But Peter, who lived by the train tracks, said he "took a dump and it was that long!"
Ok ok, i'm sorry I misspelled "misinterpretated" but oh well, i'm no english expert. Anyway, i'm sorry for forcing per se, my religon on you guys, I just wanted people to understand. As for science, its not like I dispise science, its just when something like "Humans evolved from monkeys" comes up, i'm just not going to accept a theory like that. You can understand that right? Its not like I don't believe in gravity or medicin. And obviously i'm not the person who should be explaining how to please God when i'm on a Cannabis forum! Please, I don't want to be looked at as a child or moron just because I want to believe in God. If no one else believes, thats ok. But I don't want to be the loser here just because I attempted to explain the bible. My advice to anyone who WANTS to know the answers to bible related questions though go to www.gotquestions.org. They have some pretty good information.
You're not forcing your religion on us anymore than we're forcing our lack of religion on you. :)
Kokujin X, don't be sorry for sharing your view. Don't just hate non-conformists, like...COUGH...hold on, I need a hit...(actually, the, ah, forget it long story).
But, you mentioned about speaking of pleasing God, and stuff, and how you can do that when you're at an herb-site, talking with "drug users", but we're all druggies when we sucked our mom's tit.
I'm lost as to your views of the Universe, if you've stated those, too. Try watching a Carl Sagan video to brush up. I like talking about God to whomever, wherever because it'll never end.
Alright, well let me ask a question about the "logical" existence of Earth. Now, assuming God doesn't exist, what was it that started life? I mean, as far as we know, life in itsself is the most intricate thing to exist. From the time when no life existed, what was it that jump started life? I suppose micro organisims just appared out of no where, soley based off where Earth formed. Is that really what makes Earth diffrent from other planets? Because of the exact spot Earth so happend to form in? If the Earth were even a foot closer or further from the sun, this planet would also be uninhabitable (to all lifeforms that exist on Earth now anyways).
Even being that the Earth picked the exact right spot to form, what was it that really started it all? In the whole universe (as far as we know) there is nothing suggesting that life can even exist. All you see is rocks and gas, nothing that even seems close to life. I mean, even how life works, how everything works togather and how bacteria is even 10,000 times more intelligent then anything in space.
How am I expected to believe this? It almost seems more far-fetched then the possibility of God.
well i ADMIT i cannot explain stuff, infact no one really can... all it is, is pure speculation. i do not believe howerver some magical man in the sky made the earth. either side you look on there is something unexplainable happening, it's about what side of the fence you are on. i *believe* i'm on the right side because a whole lot more about life that we know can be explained from scietific means or logical means, while as basicly everything in the book is *magical* for lack of a better word. and, well i do believe in the history of evolution, if you look at primates is it really so hard to believe we developed from them? they are one of the smartest creatures on the planet known to us, and have been around for a loooooooooooooong time (giving the time to evolve) not to mention the sheer similairities they share with us and not many other animals on this earth (if any).
Well, except for your last sentence, you basically hit the nail on the head. Face it brother, you and me are nothing more than sentient cosmic dust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kokujin X
God is a human construct which came into being because we're (humanity in general) are too scared to admit to ourselves that we are alone. But actually, there's nothing wrong with that. We don't need God anymore, we've overcome that notion, and it will catch on with the entire population of Earth sooner or later.
As for evolution, why is it such a bad thing that we evolved from apes? I don't understand that. It just proves that all living organisms share the same beginning, whether it be the worm under your shoe, the bird in the sky, or your mother. But of course, Christians would have you believe that humans are superior to all other living things, but if you take a step back and think about it, that doesn't make any sense either. We are all living, and we all share the same biological past. To me, that's beautiful, not shameful.
I just find it strange that a group of people who are supposed to be looking for the logic in things, will just say our existance is unexplainable. If your support logic, then how do you support this? It makes no sense! I mean, look at it. The Earth is out of place in the Universe, in fact according to what we know, we shouldn't even exist! There is an infinite space where nothing even resembling life exists. I refuse to believe that life was just some extreme fluke of the universe, which shouldn't even happen (a fluke that is) if you don't have some other force in control. All signs point to a God.
Man is a creation of God and theorys (such as how the Earth was formed) were made by people who simply refuse to accept a higher power. I hope you realize this statment was no more severe then yours.Quote:
God is a human construct which came into being because we're (humanity in general) are too scared to admit to ourselves that we are alone.
like i said, either way you look something that is out of the concept of explination happened, whether you believe in a being, a diety that magically created everything or whether you believe a great energy, some cosmic disruption fused millions and millions and billions of pounds of dust and water vapor into an earth. until we can travel back in the past (or find some other form of truth) neither will truley be confirmed no dis-confirmed. i'm not trying to convert any christian. i simply want every christian to actually take the time to read the bible look for the loop holes, realize how out of character god is really portrayed in the bible as to how he's talked about in everyday speech and realize there may be [less in your cases] to what you think. i do not *hate god* i just think there are much more sensible and simpler explinations then what you [christians and god believers and such] suggest.
Yeah, I realize that God seems to do some strange things sometimes. But in my opinion, how can I really expect to understand his way? When I was little, I would wonder why my mother would do things (such as time out or whatever) but as I got older I understood (as with most kids and their parents). If God existed for all eternity, then how can I possible understand him and his ways? Its not like I overlook the inconstancies in God's behavior and whatnot and yes, I do often question it. But a lot of things that would seem vague/inconsistant or just plain out contradictions are just not being explained the right way. I have learned this after years and years of constant questioning. If theres something I don't understand right away, in most cases its because of the way i'm viewing it.