Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
LOL... I don't know much about this case or this woman, but she does seem like she's just using her sons death as a way to further her 'career'. It's pretty lame and it's making her look like a twat.
if i may...
what career? you think she's up for a talk show spot?
Why can't people see it's not about fame? is that what society's about now? who can get their 15 minutes?
her son DIED, dude. she met the president and she was expecting so much that he actually cared...it took a while for it to hit her.
she's out there...she went out by HERSELF and didnt ask anyone else to come with her. she was prepared to sit there through wind and rain and without food if need be, to get the president to answer
WHY doesnt bush want to talk? if this were any other president, this wouldve been a priority to prevent political suicide. he refuses to answer.
fort bragg....selective audiences at press conferences. there arent any dems at his speeches and you have to be upper crust to even think about getting inside, (R) or not.
bush refuses to hold press conferences or answer ANY questions regarding 9/11...the war...the border crisis...NOTHING.
she's looking for attention that is true... but NOT for herself. but for the american people to wake up and realise that whats going on is wrong illegal and destroying the country.
if you believe that troops should stay in iraq to "stay the (illegal) course" then you do them a disservice and its dishonourable in my eyes. and you deserve to be right on the front lines facing an IED
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
Look at it this way... If a Republican's son/daughter died in Iraq at the hands of one of the 'insurgents', and they did what Sheehan is doing now, except they used their child's death to promote the war, saying that these 'insurgents' need to be taken out, then would you agree? Would Sheehan agree? The answer, I fear, is no. So then she is using the death of her son to strengthen her political views, almost as if saying "See!". She claims to have been doing "this type of thing" for a while, long before her son died, and now that he has died she is using his name and his death to get into the press so she can preach about what she thinks is right or wrong.
I'm not saying I agree with her political views or not, i'm just saying that I don't agree with the way she is getting those views across.
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
i dont think she picks who comes,but you can sure see the mentality of the people who do come.al sharpton?lol.nobody gives a shit about this woman anymore.she is an anti-semitic and a racist.
with the election last year,the election on Oct. 15,the DEMOCRATIC constitution,the continued capture and killing of middle eatern finatics,none of those great soldiers have died in vain.
you guys keep up your funny protest in Crawford and outside the army medical base,you are digging your own graves.thank you.
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
Hey well at least the election wouldve been won fair and square, not stolen. integrity doesnt count much in america anymore huh? it doesnt matter what dirty tactics are used to win, because somehow the ends always justify the means?
Democrats point of view. Face it..GORE LOST!!!
I dont hear you complaining about what a bad choice bush was. both of them. i dont recal you talking about who set the framework by getting saddam into power and making sure it was secured.
History lesson Saddam 101...The Rise and Fall of an Asshole:
http://www.emergency.com/hussein1.htm
i dont recall you at least discussing the issue of how the president wants to forcibly restrict gay marriages. im not some faggot but how does the government have a say in your personal life?
Thats his point of view along with a lot of other people. I don't believe that the Government has a place in the bedroom myself but like others, that's my opinion.
and about rwanda....i havnt heard a formal apology about that either from bush. he wasnt presiding, but he speaks for the nation and the actions of the nation.
Clinton ignored it because of the French. Why the hell should Bush apologize for something that Clinton still won't own up to? Maybe CLINTON should apologize and admit that he ignored the facts due to strong ties with the French. Nooooo, Lets just say it's Bush's fault!
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Clinton ignored it because of the French. Why the hell should Bush apologize for something that Clinton still won't own up to? Maybe CLINTON should apologize and admit that he ignored the facts due to strong ties with the French. Nooooo, Lets just say it's Bush's fault!
i never said bush was reponsible.
japan fucked china over and the chinese are still asking for some kind of formal recognition.
bush mcan easily hold a press conference and formally apologize for america' lack of help. it doesnt matter who fucked up, it matters who takes responsibility.
i dont like clinton much at all, but looks like bush isnt much better either.
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Look at it this way... If a Republican's son/daughter died in Iraq at the hands of one of the 'insurgents', and they did what Sheehan is doing now, except they used their child's death to promote the war, saying that these 'insurgents' need to be taken out, then would you agree? Would Sheehan agree? The answer, I fear, is no. So then she is using the death of her son to strengthen her political views, almost as if saying "See!". She claims to have been doing "this type of thing" for a while, long before her son died, and now that he has died she is using his name and his death to get into the press so she can preach about what she thinks is right or wrong.
I'm not saying I agree with her political views or not, i'm just saying that I don't agree with the way she is getting those views across.
lemme apologize in advance if it looked as if i was criticizing you. i wasnt. i shouldve mentioned i was speaking generally.
i wouldnt agree if a rep. did that. i dont believe in politics or false partisanship. the war is wrong. plain and simple. if someone were to do that, it would be out of blind rage and anger. sheehan lost her son and thats what made her snap out of unreasonable thinking.
politics has nothing to do with the matter. if she did the exact same thing only she was an ardent rep. then would that mean she's crazy for not backing bush? or does that mean she's a human being who's had enough of the pointless violence?
Why cant she preach? isnt that what america's about? being able to speak your mind and not have to be uniform or conform to any standards you dont agree with?
and let's not forget, the press got wind of her and THEY found her. not the other way around. she was a woman content to sit in her chair and wait patiently for bush to own up and be a man.
so far ive seen the leader of the most powerful nation in the world act like a cowardly child and a frail hippy sand with the strength of ten men.
sorry mate, ill have to g with sheehan on this one.
keep up the good pot!
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
i never said bush was reponsible.
japan fucked china over and the chinese are still asking for some kind of formal recognition.
bush mcan easily hold a press conference and formally apologize for america' lack of help. it doesnt matter who fucked up, it matters who takes responsibility.
i dont like clinton much at all, but looks like bush isnt much better either.
Yah, it would be nice for Bush to get on TV and formally apologize for Clintons fuck ups but, since we're looking for miracles, wouldn't it be nicer if the French quit supplying the perpetrators of the genocide weapons? Maybe Chirac could get on TV with Bush? :D
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by amsterdam
i dont think she picks who comes,but you can sure see the mentality of the people who do come.al sharpton?lol.nobody gives a shit about this woman anymore.she is an anti-semitic and a racist.
with the election last year,the election on Oct. 15,the DEMOCRATIC constitution,the continued capture and killing of middle eatern finatics,none of those great soldiers have died in vain.
you guys keep up your funny protest in Crawford and outside the army medical base,you are digging your own graves.thank you.
oh wow, bill o'reilly and cafferty are such stellar examples of the right crowd to associate with :rolleyes:
she's anti-semitic, why? i havnt heard you say anything as t why you really think shes anti-semitic. my opinion is, fuck those israeli bastards.
this is their war, and you know it is. i wonder what your views on the israelis would be if you were the father of a son killed in an "accidental" TWO HOUR attack on the uss liberty (the same one where the fighter pilot observed and reported the american flag before being ordered to fire anyway).
the father of the american tourist run over by an israeli tank SEVERAL TIMES, when she was peacefully protesting their cruelty towards palestinians.
the father of a son rounded up by israeli troops and shot behind some building either because they were looking for terrorists or just wanted to have some fun.
you place yourself in any one of those situations and couple it with the amount of money israel recieves from america while they build up their military.
how many times would you punch me in the face if i called you anti-semitic for not supporting israel's evil terrorist-like war or giving "foreign aid" to their citizens while the government gets fatter with all the disposable income?
HOW MANY FUCKNG TIMES? :mad:
and you can quite nicely fuck off with this democratic election bullshit. all it is, is the installation of yet ANOTHER soon-to-be-corrupted puppet government that will be a problem in 15 years or so... then the great mighty america will swoop in to liberate the people from the same bad men they put into power years ago...its getting old now.
its just like the fried chicken and bananas at guantanamo, show thm that and everythings fine with prisoner abuse....show them some iraqi woman with her finger in blue ink holding up the peace sign and the iraqis have such a wonderful democratic society...
...just continue about your business and ignore the 2000+ protestors proclaiming theyd rather have saddam back and the threats of civil war from all three factions...everything's fine....
you're so desperate to see bushs approval rating climb above 40%, its ridiculous....
smoke some pot man. just smoke some pot.
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
Yah, it would be nice for Bush to get on TV and formally apologize for Clintons fuck ups but, since we're looking for miracles, wouldn't it be nicer if the French quit supplying the perpetrators of the genocide weapons? Maybe Chirac could get on TV with Bush? :D
so why not war with france? theyll just give up anyway :D
Pro-Bush Demonstrators Counter Sheehan
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Originally Posted by nicholasstanko
and you can quite nicely fuck off with this democratic election bullshit. all it is, is the installation of yet ANOTHER soon-to-be-corrupted puppet government that will be a problem in 15 years or so... then the great mighty america will swoop in to liberate the people from the same bad men they put into power years ago...its getting old now.
If they want to elect puppets, it's their election.
...just continue about your business and ignore the 2000+ protestors proclaiming theyd rather have saddam back and the threats of civil war from all three factions...everything's fine.....
2000 protestors in a Sunni stronghold, Saddams home town, Tikret. 2000 people out of 26,000,000....come on now Nick, just slooooowwwww down and take a big hit. :D