why do you guys hate police officers?
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Originally Posted by napolitana869
I know some people go in with the best intentions about helping people and society but power corrupts. And for the few who may maintain their ideals the system destroys them because they're the only ones playing by the rules.
I couldn't agree more. Sorry to hear about the police brutality, but as you said, power corrupts, and not just in a very small minority of pigs like idealists would believe. You are certainly not alone in your experiences. And usually, like in your case, the pigs will get off the hook because there's nobody to punish them that they aren't close bedfellows with.
why do you guys hate police officers?
ok, I posted that before I read the whole thread. So first, as far as kids who dislike the cops for no real reason- I was 16 when this happened. I didn't even start smoking until after this. As far as being arrested or beaten and arrested, the only place I went to was the hospital. It wouldn't be any fun arresting a little blonde girl who you had already crippled. And for the equating pigs with our troops: most people in the milliary have hornor. Thats why they do something they may not agree with. I'm not saying that what they do is right or wrong, but its not for their own personal gain.
For people that rape and murder and things like that of course there needs to be something to stop them and prevent this from happening, but we need a system where you never hear "fuck its the cops" and "thank god its the cops" (I don't remember who said that either). We are the ones that need to stop givng power to those in control right now. We are the ones that are allowing this to continue by saying thats how it works, or he must have desirved it. I'm not talking about cops taking your weed or busting you for drinking underage. That sucks, but you can't blame them for that (obviously this is excluding them demanding or accepting sexual favors or other things of that nature to get off a charge). I don't blame some people for respecting cops. It all depends on what you;ve see for yourself, but it is very important to know that no mater what you think, we havn't seen it all, nor can we even try to guess at what else is going on behind the image of a protector. This goes for both good things and bad. I guess saying I hate cops isn't what I really mean. I don't trust cops. No one should. It doesnt matter what side of the law you're on.
why do you guys hate police officers?
yeah the sad thing is it was even filmed and it was never mentioned on the news or anything.
why do you guys hate police officers?
fuck police 1 pulled out in front of my mate (while driving) caused the crash then got a load of witnesses to say it was my mates fault now he's banned. Fair dont think so. They get power and it goes to there heads
why do you guys hate police officers?
Anyone who says they hate cops as a whole due to a bad experiebce with a cop or two is simply immature. COme on its like saying you think all weed smokers are dumb because you met a dumb stoner one day . All burgers are gross because you dont like mcdonalds.
You cannot impose judgements of an individual on a whole group. Think about it.
History is too full of that shit.
People if there were no cops think about the world we would live in. Unless you would be willing to kill for your dinner youd be a deadman by next week because there are some crazy fuckers out there. A world of 'everyman for himself ' is not the world I want to live in.
Sure there are some bad cops... but bad civillians too.
I feel for those of you that have had some bad experiences with police but your bad cop doesnt make every cop bad. Think about it for a second.
And you who said nobody should trust the police because you met some bad ones....grow up.
Guys, Ive been on both sides of the law. Ive spent near 5 years behind bars in my life.
But, cops didnt put me there ...I did.
And am I bitter....of course not.
And my bad actions as a civillian doesnt mean all civillians are bad.
You know who hates cops just for being cops? Punks and criminals.
Which one are you?
why do you guys hate police officers?
Everyone who smokes weed is a criminal. At least in most countries.
My problem is not with one or two people. One or two people could have been fired. It takes a city and a society to create and tolerate the double standard that exists today. You did something wrong, you served your time, and are not bitter because you understand that we all have to be responsible for our actions. Thats how people should be. Am I bitter? I'm the one who won't be able to dance at my wedding because I stood up for what I believe in, and did it in a way that broke no laws what so ever. I really am trying to be as unbiased as I can be, and I see your point as far as blaming the actions of one on a group in general. It's wrong. It's very wrong. I in no way intended for anything I said to be taken as judgement of every individuals character in terms of their everyday lives, beliefes, or actions outside of uniform. I'm sorry if it came across that way. My problem is with the system; it cultivates situations where people get hurt for no reason. Like I said before, people go in with the best intentions. They want to make the world a better place by protecting us from the evil that is inherent in every society. Those people who oppress us and make us lives our lives in fear for ourselves and our kids. Those people who murder and rape innocent people. But where do you draw the line at who the evil really is? How do we protect ourselves when the evil is in our protectors? When I say evil I'm not referring to the people themselves. But when you pick up a gun you have power over every unarmed man, woman, and child who make up the majority of our neighborhoods. When the evil is the same on both sides of the law you have to wonder where the rest of us fall into place.
And its not even in the US. Now shoot first ask questions later is the accepted policy. I don't really know how I can put into words just how horrible and outrageous this is. To do away with police entirety in one bold step would be a rash and foolish decision to make. But as we are giving away more and more of our freedoms for the sake of being free how can we even claim to have the same fundamental values that America was founded on? We train new cops that there is one good and one evil. Everything is black or white. And in their minds they take this to heart in justifying their actions. As long as you can rationalize what your doing we can do anything guilt free. You/we need to have faith in other people. If it came down to it, most people would not go on a violent killing spree the second an authority figure is removed and there are no legal consequences for our actions. Look at what happened in New York after 9/11. There were no enforceable laws to go by that day. People not only continued to live there lives in a civil manor, they went out of their way to help others. We do live in a world where its every man for himself. It's financial gain over the worker who lost his job because its cheaper to have over seas labor do it for pennies. I understand that you may not agree with me, thats your right and that right should be protected. And much of what I said wasn't directed at you as I'm sure your post wasn't directed at me. I'm 18. I'm going to start college in a few weeks. I have no idea how old you are or what your life experiences may have been. I am doing my best to be mature and look at this without taking into account my obvious personal bias, and I am not the one who resorted to belittling someone else for an opinion thatâ??s different from my own. Maybe if I keep trying I'll be as grown up as you one day. I may have completely misunderstood what you said and if thats the case than Iâ??m sorry for any of you that read this entire thing. I wasnâ??t trying to insult you or throw your words back at you so please donâ??t be offended by anything I said.
why do you guys hate police officers?
Hey dont worry Im not offended ...we're adults having a conversation. :)
that said (hehe):
I am suprised that you post something that makes it obvious you are capable of intelligent thought and can still say something like " I dont trust cops...no one should"
You are clearly stating that we should feel the same as you due to your experiences.
However horrible your experiences may be they are still the tiny, tiny minority.
Judging a huge group of people based on the actions of so few is so wrong, and as I said before, lacking in mature perspective on things.
It doesnt matter who we are talking about be it cops, secreteries, bus drivers or mechanics. Each person is responsible for their own actions and not responsible for those of others simply because of a common occupation. Its that simple.
I dont need to remind everyone where in history mentalities like that have led to horrible attrocities.
Funny you bring up 9/11. Those who hijacked the planes believed that they were ridding the earth of evil. Were all those people that died evil? NO. But they believed it based on their education of western society and the Us actions around the world.
Should you be held accountable for ,say ,the actions of your president?
Should I hate you because the US government affected an arrest of Marc Emery?
Or should I hate you because your government has horrible foreign policy?
Should your military be disbanded because some of them beat a few innocent iraquis?
I could go on and on but its all rediculous!
And, dont think that just because there wasnt that much looting and killing in the aftermath of 9/11 that it means your country would be safe as a kitten if you had no police. Your country would be the first to fall into chaos in my opinion. Its a silly comparison.
And were not talking about financial bullying here with 'every man for himself' were talking about that man down the road who might want to play a few games with jr. or the man with a basement full of guns and a list of grudges...or the man who just hates everyone ..we,ve got a lot of crazies out there and what would stop them from acting out their crazies if not the police or some organised group of protectors?
In modern society we need police and will never be without them, get used to it.
Ive given a list of the things Im thankful for the police for and I know every person has been positively affected by the bravery of police, you included, whether you know it or not. Take away police and you have instant chaos. Everyone with guns and a load of paranoia and fear. There would be no instant eutopia . I know if you put some honest thought to it youll agree . You seem intelligent enough.
I could go on forever but I hope I dont need to.
It seems youmay have some mixed feelings on this one as you contradict yourself a few times. I understand about ranting then feeling a bit different later with a different mood or perspective.
why do you guys hate police officers?
A cop has to be a jerk, because there's a possibility of him dying at work everyday.
why do you guys hate police officers?
besides, if the police to anything wrong, and you have substaintial proof (especially since somebody mentioned a video) and you are in the usa, send it to the news!
stuff like that 'police beatdowns' and stuff are great news. It keeps rating up. I mean they leak out secret info about one of our intelligence officers, and BAM! he dies.
they would love to expose a small towns police beat down!
unless, of course, you tell me that your police agency is in cahoots with the newspaper and radio people as well. And that the whole area is ran in a puppet regime using the mayor as his pawn or anything. :D
why do you guys hate police officers?
The cops around here try to pull so much shit . They have pulled vehicals for no reason
and try to search with out probable cuase or warrant. They are most definatly not my friends and are just trying to make themselves look good. Also they camp for speeders in Road Work Areas set up specificaly for catching speeders. There is also a blacklist. They aren't suppose to have a blacklist are they? You need to have a lawyer before they quit trying to fuck you around. And that shit is expensive.