Selecting a Mother

Well, I appreciate you asking me oldmac, that makes me feel good. I don't feel that I have enough experience with MJ at this point to give you much of an answer though.

My WW is from Flying Dutchman, started from fem'ed seed last fall. I bloomed some from seed my first run with it. Next run, I cloned off the best female that I kept and ran just that strain during the winter. Being a laizze faire type of gardener, I don't write much down, but I do not recall WW taking more time than any of the other 4 strains. And, all clones of WW rooted, no duds. As an aside: because I had nowhere to put all of the clones I took (all bloom areas were overstuffed ), I ended up composting all but the 4 WW. :rolleyes:

I cloned that batch using peat pots (uh oh, I hear rumbles from the gallery) with bottom heat and a humidity dome. I think all the strains, not just the WW, rooted within 7 to 10 days.

As you see, I've run her twice. Once from seed and once from clone. Once in 3 gals. of soil, once in 1.5 gal hempy. Second time results much better but only because it dried perfectly.

my WW did good usually pretty prompt around week2 after cutting 10-14 days unless i was neglecting her. now i make sure the mums r in tiptop shape b4 cutting. I think she might have liked cooler cloning temps since she used to run along side my MK.

Aloha O. M.:)

Had varying results with the widow.

Had one root in 4 days!
Had 4 that took 15-16 days
Had 10 that failed completely!
3 weeks and not a sausage.
Then they shriveled n died.

Did a small double blind with 4 cuttings.

Put 2 in aerated rainwater and 2 in aerated tap water.
Wanted to see if chloramine inhibited rooting.
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The rainwater cuttings shrank in size and did not root!
It's like the too pure water was sucking the life out of them.
After 2 weeks, I switched them to tap water and they rooted in 4 more days.
Still puny and dwarfed though. :(
Prolly have to" set them free" in a vacant lot.

Yah, cheap guy nevah t'row nuttin' away.:D

My tapwater is about 120 ppm, PH ~7.2,
Haloacetic acids (HAA5) 1.18ppb
Trihalomethanes (TTHMs) 6.93ppb
Nitrates 1.10ppm
Sodium 32ppm

The tapwater cuttings stayed lush and green all the way!
Looks like a little chloramine is a good thing.

The amount and quality of light makes a difference.
Temperature/humidity makes a difference
And, according to Lolagal, Astrology, makes a difference.;)

The major determinate though appears to be what the mom was planning/doing when you take the cutting.

If she has just started a growth spurt, you can get roots from a fan leaf!
If she's sulking, well. mo' betta siddown, gonna be a while.

OK that's about 6 cents.
I gonna shut up now.
Gotta nip down from da ceiling an go take a civilized* pith.

*(Outside da drip line)

Wee Zard

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Originally Posted by oldmac

Thanks sarah louise for keeping an old man honest. The tallest is about 4' and the shortest is about 3'8". I know from talking to knna that 120cm is about 4', at least when we are talking about T5 fluoresecent tubes, guess it should be same for plants.;)

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Yep, doesn't matter what your measuring the conversion factor is the same ;)

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I'm impressed with how similar they all are in size, node spacing, rooting, etc. The variations are slight so it seems like a very stable strain...wouldn't expect different from Sensi.

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Excellent, but that's what you paid for, isn't it?

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Seems like a good strain for a hobbyist who can only grow 1 or 2 plants at a time. I hadn't thought about it much again till now, but I was hoping for more varitation between seeds to show it was usefull to grow out a bunch to pick 1 good mom. Oh well can't fudge a scientific experiment unless your a drug company.

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I'm sure the exercise will show it's worth when you sample the crop. Regardless of how they look now, I am sure they wont smoke identically.

sara.

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Originally Posted by sarah louise

I'm sure the exercise will show it's worth when you sample the crop. Regardless of how they look now, I am sure they wont smoke identically.

sara.

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Just last nite we tasted a few small buds from two of the Shiva Skunk plants. The taste is going to be very nice and it is quite potent. (we also tasted another auto AK47 and Auto santa maria.) It looks like a lot of work ahead to sample all 10 and to see which are best. But that's the type of work I can handle and won't mind doing at all. :D

if you need a test subject?...call me...:rolleyes:

Crabby,

I value your opinon, you may not have a long history with mj but you've grown other things including ornamentals. And if you can grow plants you can grow weeds. Besides I was looking for expiences with rooting WW and your's are very valid.

phatsesh101 and weezard,

Thanks for your 2 cents and 6 cents respectively, all of the input leads me to believe I'm dealing with a particular plant that was not a good representation of a WW. Seems to have a problem throwing down roots. Exactly why I'm going thru the time and trouble to grow out 10 shiva's, to find a mom that has it all; potency, good growth and the ability to root easily. And as I have seen already at least 2 of the 10 are a little lacking in that depatrment.

We decided to harvest the first of the three AutoAK47's, we are going to probably take 1/week to see the difference between them based on total time. Here's a couple of pics of the first and shortest of that group. Taste is good and potency excellent already. We are thinking that scince we have a light going for our mom's and for veggin plant starts, growing 3-4 autos along side is kinda like growing these for free. Probably are going to keep doing more.

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Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp

if you need a test subject?...call me...:rolleyes:

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Hey I can always use another set of taste buds doing this work. :D Especially someone with your experience. Must admit with just 2 guys sampling last nite we got a little toasted just from three samples. And two of those samples are about 2 weeks from really being finished.

How long would it take you to get here? :jointsmile:

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Originally Posted by oldmac

How long would it take you to get here? :jointsmile:

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I can be there in a week to ten days...depending,
on the direction I'm going....and whether it's uphill or not?...:stoned:

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Originally Posted by Dutch Pimp

I can be there in a week to ten days...depending,
on the direction I'm going....and whether it's uphill or not?...:stoned:

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Yo, Dutch, stop by and get me. Sounds like OM needs all the help he can get from us "power" stoners.

ps. I drove from GA to Anchorage AK in 8.5 days. :jointsmile: