Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro
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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
Honestly I'm not really understanding your style here since the top screen is 0% filled in. I wouldn't be going to flower until the top screen is about 2/3 or more filled in.
The upper screen is for support of the colas. Last time I grew these BD's they came crashing down on me due to support issues (or lack thereof), so I am using the upper screen to tie the buds up to - let them bud through - during the flower process.
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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
The plants were moved into the room after several weeks of flowering. One (RHS) was topped prior to the move while the other was catching up. The trunk of each plant is nearly 1 in thick and each is 24 in tall before the first screen. Lower screen is to train the shoots and possibly tie down unmanageable ones before flowering, while using the upper screen to support growing tops when they stretch during flowering.
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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
I don't understand why you can't pull those main bud sites down under the screen. They don't look that terribly formidable.
They are over 1/4 inch thick and right at a node. They are pushing the screen up and they are inflexible too. I am worried I will snap off their heads if I tuck them under. I snapped one completely off that was under half the size as the beefy shoots ones. I don't wanna break their heads off and have to wait 2 weeks to recover before flipping them to 12/12 just cuz I manhandled them.
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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
Hmm, super strong stalk syndrome is it? Yes I remember when I had SSSS once.
Yes SSSS. It's a bitch. At least its not SSS - shitty shoot syndrome. Probably due to a very unconventional attempt at SCROG and letting them grow 2 ft before screening them. I've learned a helluva lot so far and promise to to it better next time. Really, I will. It will save me a lot of work and headaches.
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Originally Posted by Opie Yutts
I should have been in bed hours ago, so please forgive me if I'm not making much sense. In my defense, David Byrne told me to stop making sense.
I know the feeling. These beautiful ladies require a lot of attention. Blues Traveler told me that I gotta stop Mulling It Over, Just Wait, and Slow Change...... But Anyways.....
Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro
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Originally Posted by Weedhound
I personally.....having NEVER DONE A SCROG SETUP...(to be clear) would get them through the screen whether by pushing or by pruning. If I pruned them I would give them enough time to recover before flipping them. I personally would want my ducks in a row before turning to 12/12. And if you lose a few here or there I SERIOUSLY doubt you are going to notice by the end. ;)
What's up Hound.... thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts. This is a total n00b experiment for me.... I HAVE NEVER DONE A SCROG SETUP EITHER!! :eek:
Background here: I topped before screening them and just about every day I see them there are 5-10 new shoots that will be bud sites. Since I have 2 screens in place I am planning to flip 'em in the middle of next week (2 weeks since last pruning), then use LST between the screens to keep the monster shoots in check. Most likely training them horizontally to the outer spots on the stadium curvature.
These babes have been under 18/6 since they were little bitty transplanted clones on 10/1. They are quite stout and since I wanna grow Buds and not Wood, I think I'll flip 'em soon just for shits and giggles. If they respond anything like the last BD grow I'll be up to my eyeballs in dense sticky buds. Besides, I laid it out last night on a sheet of paper, and if I have 7-10 bud sites (or more) per square foot I'll be happy with the experiment.
Botton line I'm shooting to better my 1st BD grow of 7oz, yet my actual goal is between 10-12 oz dried herb.... Wish Me Luck!!
MVP :jointsmile:
Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro
Well they aren't going to get any younger.....or any smaller either....:wtf:..I say go for it before the jolly green giant climbs down off one of those stalks. ;)
Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro
Well after tucking leaves and repositioning shoots for hours several consecutive days, I threw them into an extended darkness period as I prepare them for flowering. Tomorrow night at 7pm they will come lights on to their new daily regimen of 12/12.
Being an experiment, I have learned quite a bit already: get the screen in place while they are small and more flexible being the main lesson.
I'll be on Grow nutes for another 7-10 days before a transition batch 50/50 grow/bloom and then to full strength bloom nutes. I anticipate another 2+ weeks of tucking and training, but cannot be sure. I'll update later in the week once they wake up from their day and a half nap...
Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro
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Originally Posted by MVP
Being an experiment, I have learned quite a bit already: get the screen in place while they are small and more flexible being the main lesson.
The main lesson I learned from this last one is not so much LST, or mainly, not so many damn bud sites. I'm glad we can learn from our mistakes.
Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro
just checkin' it all out, man. :thumbsup:
shv
Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro
look real good hoping to start my on hydro setup soon keep us posted
Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro
Today they woke up from their day and a half nap to a turning point in their lives. It's kinda like the first day of school, except its the first day of FLOWER! So keeping with the school theme, here is their report card:
BD1 5.8 PH, 998 PPM
BD2 5.8 PH, 1162 PPM
(both are almost exactly the same as 2 days ago)
So I had to commemorate the first day of Flower with a couple of photos. Lots of shoots, very thick in many cases, and plenty of tucking done already. I am gonna tuck for another week, or maybe just let them stretch to the upper screen. Not quite sure at the moment. First 2 pics of the canopy under HPS. Third pic of the fan I moved below to add air movement to them. Cramped space above not allowing good air circ until I move the hood up in a few weeks.
Lower leaves are getting a bit brittle and slightly deficient :wtf: but all top growth is lush and green. Looks like slight CA and/or K def below. Flushed and changed nutes on 12/31 and look good on top since then.
And so as to not leave anybody out, the last 2 pics are of their sisters - MK clones - I cut to show Weedhound a bit about how I do cloning. They have been flowering 13 days now. Link in sig too...
Enjoy the pics and check back again soon.
Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro
It will be interesting to see how similar (or NOT similar) these will be down the road. ;)
Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro
I'm actually kinda excited about running the MK clones at the same time as the Dominas. Dominas were stout, bushy and almost 2 ft tall when I threw them under a screen. Kushes (if thats a word, well now it is...) were 8 in tall and just establishing good roots.
Big difference so far has been the training and tucking is SOOOOO much easier with the MKs as their trunks and shoots are much more pliable. The MKs also have been had slightly more regualr attention paid to them (weekly res change) than the Dominas. BDs had a stretch of 10-11 days without res change and I think they went slightly deficient for a short period of time.
Either way I am liking the SCROG type thing so far, it is easy to train using LST when all I really have to do is poke them down under the screen and reposition them every couple of days.
