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Hi aristotleQuote:
Originally Posted by Aristotle
Weedhound's answer is spot on, once you've made the oil its active and potent, you don't need the capsules to eat it, you could just spread it on toast or eat it in solid form straight out of the fridge. Just be careful if re-heating it not to go too high or you'll vape the THC.
Good luck.
Hi Charles, your reaction time sounds just like mine so I'm guessing were of a similar build.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles U Farley
I can predict almost to the minute when the effects start after I've taken these capsules. It's always about an hour and a half, so you possibly 'jumped-the-gun' by about 15 minutes with the third capsule, but it's all a learning process.
However, I don't think that was the cause of your upset stomach though.
I had a similar experience to yours once when making capsules from dried bud.
I mistakenly used some of smaller 'pointed' leaves in the mix, and although I thought they'd be OK I found out later that they're covered in microscopic thorns that can survive the 'grinding' process. These 'thorns' can irritate the stomach lining causing cramp and diarrhea. (particularly if the stomach doesn't have much in it).
I'm guessing, but this might be the cause of the discomfort you encountered. Your canna butter recipe sounds bang on, and clearly the THC extraction worked great.
Two things I was wondering, do you strain the weed out in your recipe, and how do you normally take it, i.e. cakes, biscuits etc?
Hope your feeling better now. Cheers flame.
P.S. I just thought, my own experience has been never to eat anything until the reaction starts to peak (around 4 or 5 hours after swallowing), as on the few times I've done that, I have had an occasional stomach ache as well. I'm not sure what the cause of this might be, maybe the THC effects a slow down of the digestive system? I'll go and see if I can find anything on the net. Anyone else come across this?
Love it Charles....:thumbsup:
I've been trying all sorts of stuff and never had a stomach issue but I'm known for a pretty iron stomach.
Flame.....you've cut my ganja use by about 4/5's. Can't thank you enough for that alone. :thumbsup::thumbsup:
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Originally Posted by Weedhound
Hey, does that mean you've got a surplus?
flame holds out cap lol :jointsmile:
beachguy holds out barrel
I'd be pouring champagne bottles full of caps for you. :D
THAT is hysterical. :S2:Quote:
Originally Posted by beachguy in thongs
Ok well I am giving this a shot tonite. I am a little confused on how this could get you that high. I usually do in a crockpot 1/3 cup of coconut oil with 14 grams of good coffee ground bud. I usually simmer on low for like 12 hrs. Then I strain it thru cheese cloth and bake the brownies. The brownies make 16 brownies. 1 brownie gets me pretty rocked and 2 makes me pass out.
Each brownie has about the tch extracted from .8 grams of bud. Now I am using 5 grams of good bud to 1 tbs of coconut oil.
the way I figure it each tab should contain the tch extracted from .2 grams of bud.
Am I wrong. Do you lose some tch from baking it in the oven at 325 for 50 mins?
ALso should I strain the bud out and just use the oil or should I try and divide up the junk amount the capsules?
Thanks
Also I am thinking that I usually simmer the 1/3 cup oil for 12 hrs so should I go ahead and do it for like 4 or 6 hrs or stick with 12?
nice. sounds like a good process with good review. ive got a 1000 gelcap bag and capper in mail now, and i plan to grab some bud or preferably hash this weekend
on the thorn thing: if using bud, are there any methods of capsulizing it better/worse, as well as any way to remove thorns in buds?
Hey Flame,
After thinking about the sequence of events last night I came to the conclusion that I did not eat enough and what I ate was not good enough to coat my stomach.I am a bit of a light weight so take what I have to say with that in mind.I have never been that blasted off from weed,holy excrement Batman.I mean I could get up and go to the bathroom,get a drink and stuff but I really had to focus to do it.Glad I got my chores done first or the girls would have gone without water/feeding for the night.Im hoping that the stomach thing was just a screw up on my part on not following directions correctly.Each one of my pills weighed just at a gram each.
Flame Ill paste my brownie recipe at the end of this note.Ill also include how I make my butter.Nothing new just that Im an idiot when it comes to how much weed/trim/bud/shake I use.I am feeling better now,thanks for asking Flame.Drank to much coffee this morning to do my radio show as I was still feeling the effects from last night which didnt help.Did I mention how blasted I was,haha.I might measure everything out and see how much I used to make brownies in relation to how much butter in is the pills.Just seems like I hardly scratched the surface of the butter and I made over 30 pills.Ok, here is my recipe and how I make butter,thanks again for this great thread Flame,take care,be well,and most of all be safe.
Blackout Brownie Recipe:
(or as I like to call them, my super stupid brownies)
Butter:
2lbs of butter
10-12 cups of water (add water as the mixture cooks down)
12 cups of trim/shake/buds (the better your trim/shake/buds the better your butter will be, the best butter I ever made was using two whole plants)
There are various methods getting your trim/shake/buds into a form which one can use to make butter. If Iâ??m using a whole plant I pull the buds off and put them into my final bag. The leaves and trim I have left over go into a food processor to make a flour like substance many call canna flour. After running through the food processor, (some folks use a coffee grinder) I then use this for my butter in the crock-pot. I am currently letting the trim dry out at this time but I also think if one just put the whole bag into the freezer right away that might work as well.
Cook on low setting in crock-pot for 12-24 hours. I usually only cook for 12 hours, add water as needed. Very important not to let the mixture cook to far down as the water keeps the cannabis from degrading in the heat. Strain the mixture through a cheese cloth making sure to press out as much of the butter from the leaf material as possible as that is where all the good stuff is locked up. Put in the refrigerator for a few hours and wait for the butter to harden. The butter will solidify on the top, take this out and put in another container and discard the water.
From the shake that I used I got approximately 50 grams per 2 cups which works out to about 600 grams of shake/trim/buds for my recipe. We all know that there are 448 grams in a pound so this works out to 896 grams of butter. This gets us pretty close to a 1:1 ratio of butter to weed. I understand itâ??s a bit impractical for most folks to use over a lbs of weed to make butter but this can be scaled down for your use. I make butter a few times a year with my left over trim that I keep in the freezer.
Note:
You will want to let the mixture cool a bit as you donâ??t want to burn your hands, but you still want the mixture pretty warm so that you are able to press as much of the butter out of the plant material and your cheese cloth as possible. I use the twist and press method right up to the point of tearing the cheese cloth (which often happens). I have used synthetic cheese cloth as its so much cheaper but I prefer working with natural cheese cloth (it does tear a bit easier).
Brownie recipe:
Ducan and Hines chewy fudge brownie mix (I use the two egg variation)
To this add:
1 package of 8oz cream cheese
substitute ¼ cup of cream (half and half) for water as called for in the mix
1 package of swirled caramel and chocolate chips
¾ of a package of Heath pieces toppings
¼ of cup of hot fudge sundae topping
½ cup of caramel sundae topping
¾ cup of melted cannabis butter (recipe calls for ½ cup of oil)
Warm up the cream cheese for 30 seconds in the microwave and cut into the brownie mix. I add two eggs as I like the chewy brownies not the cake like ones. I then add the entire package of caramel and chocolate chips, a ¼ of the package of the Heath topping and then the hot fudge and a ¼ cup of the caramel sundae toppings. Finally I add the melted cannabis butter and mix as directed on the package with the exception being that I use a ¼ cup of cream instead of water . After pouring the mixture into a 13 X 9 pan I sprinkle the rest of the Heath topping over the top of the brownies. I then heat up the caramel topping and drizzle the remainder over the brownies and cook for thirty minutes.
I have experimented with the amount of butter used in my recipes. In the past I have used as much as a full cup of butter. This was probably overkill as I think you hit a point of diminishing returns. A ¾ of a cup mixture seems to be just about the right amount of butter to use. The brownies arenâ??t to greasy and I am not wasting any of the precious butter.
Final recommendation:
In a 9x13 pan I used to cut the brownies into 15 squares. For the most part everyone who had one of these eventually cut them in half and ate them that way as I had reports of some folks still being messed up the next day. So now I cut them into approximately 2x2 (just under) squares and that is just about half the size of what I was doing. Seemed like over kill to have the brownies that big when after eating one folks were only then eating half because of their experiences with these treats. I have been told by long time smokers and brownie consumers that these brownies got them the most messed up they had ever been. A few friends who are medical patients informed us that within an hour and half their pain was gone or substantially subsided without the stomach problems that their doctor prescribed pain medication frequently gives them.
Make sure you are where you want to be in an hour and a half (on an empty stomach, times vary from individual to individual) because when these babies kick in you might have a hard time finding your way back home or to where ever it is you want to be. Works great for joint pain and anything else that is bothering you. Weâ??ve had friends take these late at night (after 11pm) and are still feeling the effects the next morning so this might also be a consideration when consuming these little treats.